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[–] 45 points 1 year ago

The 0 second skippable ad:

Me using uBlock Origin and Firefox so they don't win:

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I accidentally fired up YT on my unused (and non-ublocked) Vivaldi browser a few days ago and... holy crap.

    I don't see how people can actually stand that shit.

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  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago* (30 children)

    Just install Firefox and Ublock Origin already, seriously its not difficult.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    TV ads. Some brands are too annoying to find a fix. The android box thingies I've heard of tho.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    TV ads.

    That's what the mute button on the remote is there for - you improve the ad by 50% right off the bat. Also works well for those times "journalists" think sticking a microphone in a politician's mouth qualifies as news.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Doesn't work for Twitch ads though.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Twitch is really clever about it.

    Because you're watching a live stream, they know you're less likely to pause or look away, and then because they're using HLS, they just literally have the next chunk of video load from their ad servers instead of their video servers.

    The most clever part? This is done at a point before your computer, so you can't distinguish which is which as to you, it all looks like its coming from the same source.

    Now, perhaps they still give you some information about the stream that they're in a game of wackamole with block detectors over, maybe for tracking purposes or whatever, but its pretty clever, like dastardly clever but clever none the less.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Some call it clever, some call it insidious. I don't mind though, haven't been to that shit site since they went mad and showed me the same bullshit, unskipable ad several times in a row, over and over for a week because that's the only thing they had for my geo location.

    So now I boycott both twitch and that shit company that paid money to annoy me a bit, hit the jackpot and annoyed me massively to the point where I took it personally.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Why doesn't YouTube do this? I'm glad they don't but it seems like it would be more effective than what they've tried so far

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    They have lots of options to make it harder.

    They could put the commercials directly into the stream and disallow fast-forward/start at time commands.

    They could run drm and change the key/method up so often blockers would need to change on a daily basis.

    They could shrink the content into 1/4 screen and run the add at 3/4

    Competition would take their lunch eventually.

    There's a balance between keeping your customers happy and making your advertisers happy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think its simply that its a completely different medium. People dont want to be up to date with a video, and they also aren't fine with missing a part of the video.

    With a stream, you simply never get the parts that were overtaken with ads.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That sounds awful, does the viewer or the streamer get any control over when the ads show? Or could they literally cut out the best part of the stream?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    could injest the stream, play it back at 97% speed, detect scene changes (% of screen change in a timeframe). When you hit an add, hit spacebar, it realizes that you're asking it to skip and start dumping the video buffer until the next scene change.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That sounds like an awful experience for the end user while relying on the client side for security, which is part of why google has been arguing that you modifying the js on your own fucking computer is "hacking".

    They've been failing so far, but given the state of corruption currently in the US and their persistence, they might just win one of these days.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Since about a week, with that setup, I can not open replies to comments anymore. I click the "x replies" and nothing. Google says nothing. Do you randomly have and ideas?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I have zero desire to comment on youtube, so unfortunatley I do not have any ideas as I never have done it. But I would start by disabling all extensions and then re-enabling them one by one until it breaks. Another way to trouble shoot would be to reset firefox. When ever websites act wierd for me I will take those steps first and one or the other usually solves it for me.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Not a Firefox/uBO problem.

    Check your configs. It may also be a setting on the network you're using. My workplace's internet has some sort of filtering system in place that happens to also disable YT comments. Pretty lame, but it's their network. I just use my phone on 5G if I want to read YT comments or watch "18+" videos (not porn - some videos on YT are actually blocked).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Anybody have any tips for Roku on the television?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Pi-hole will block Roku's homescreen ads. The various streaming apps you may have on your Roku all implement ads their own ways, though. Pi-hole only blocks ads that come from a different domain name, which is why it does not block Youtube ads. Because Youtube serves ads from the same domain as normal content.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Ads make me boycott products. Unfortunately I'm still a consumer because I use Ublock Origin and Firefox...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Because? How does UbO warrant a "because"?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I use UbO so I don't see any ads, so I don't boycott as much as I should 😂

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Everyone advertises. It's marketing. Some ads are fine, like those found in stores, a "I'm at the store to buy things, show me what you got" kinda thing.

    The real problem is intrusive ads. Unskippable ads on videos. Ads in a paid service. Ads in paid apps. "Tech" companies tracking every single thing you do on every website. Etc, etc....

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I know what ads and marketing are, and they can both fuck off. I don't want ads on my youtube. If you're ok with ads, good on ya, enjoy lies about products you don't really need. And no, not everyone advertises. In fact there are brands and entire product lines even that avoid advertising. Club-Mate is a shining example off the top of my head.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The worst part about youtube is that it TRIES TO LIE TO YOU by suggesting that ANY AND I MEAN ANY problem is due to your adblock (its not) it literally puts a little shitty caption that thanks god gets swatted with the fury of a thousand gaping black holes by UBLOCK ORIGIN GET IT DOWNLOAD IT SPREAD ITS SHINING SUN LIKE GLORY

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Youtube put in an ad-blocker-blocker so UBlock Origin made an ad-blocker-blocker-blocker.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    The escalation is almost to a head. Very soon, they're going to start encrypting and changing it up often. We've seen tests of this knocking people out here and there.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually do something that changes often enough to make the blockers unreasonable. We'll end up going back to commercial detection and comskip.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    We’ll end up going back to commercial detection and comskip.

    Sponsorblock does this, kinda. It's crowdsourced.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Sponsorblock is awesome, and it will continue to work well if they keep the commercials in the same spot in every video. If they go through the rest of the full DRM, I can't imagine they'd leave that alone.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Just turn the device off. They don't have customer support, but they sure as fuck have metrics. At the start of the ad, turn the device completely off.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ultimate ad-blocker: touch grass.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh, don't worry. They've made sure to plaster ads everywhere outdoors too. Bus stops and the buses themselves, billboards, walls, everywhere you look there's likely an ad somewhere. It'll only get worse.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    At one point, Google toyed with activating the front-facing camera during ads. They were going to detect that you were watching the ad to make it count.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Me, just using (re)vanced for 10 years and not seeing a single youtube ad in that time.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's a constant war between adblockers, the browser, and youTube at this point. This morning once again youTube started lagging and stuttering in one browser, turn off adblocker, the lag is gone.

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    Do it while it lasts, they'll make it proper hard at some point. They keep inching toward proper dynamic DRM.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Because it has to be said: PIHOLE DOES NOT, NEVER HAS, NOR EVER WILL, BLOCK YOUTUBE ADS

    uBlock Origin does, though.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    YouTube isn't the only website on the internet and pihole does more than block ads

    or should I put that in caps

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I'm aware. But well-meaning people still often recommend Pi-hole to those looking to block YT ads. Since it's DNS-based, it can't block YT ads as YT serves ads from the same domain as the normal content.

    But it's really good at blocking a lot of other shit.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I put my fingers in my ears, close the eyes and go "allallallalaala".

    Stubbornness is a feature, not a bug.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I hit mute and find something else to do, often I forget about the original video I was trying to watch anyway.

    TBH these days when I get a Youtube link, unless it seems important, I just ignore it. I don't have time for 2 ads every time a friend thinks I should see some stupid thing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Every time I make the mistake of clicking on a YouTube video I exit the second an ad comes up. And remember: oh yeah. This is why I don't go to fucking YouTube.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    mistake dog

    Poor li'l bugger doesn't even know he's ugly. 🥲

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The current state of YouTube.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I need to know what they are advertising so I can make a mental note not to buy that thing ever

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Oh god yeah. If I have to sit through an advertisement for something, it makes an incredible negative impression on me. But only since I started adblocking. Back in the 90's and 00's I hardly noticed we were swimming in the filth.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Who, in 2025, doesn't either use a PiHole, adblocker in browser, and/or just mute and change out the window while the ad is playing?? It's crazy people still voluntarily want to be exposed to consumerist propaganda.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do you have a link to Pihole on router instructions?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    No, the internet is so easy these days though

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Amazing reply.

    "PEOPLE SHOULD JUST DO THIS, IT'S EASY"

    "Do you have a resource to help me with the easy thing?"

    "NO FUCK OFF"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That's not what I said. I don't have the resources in front of me nor do I want to go find them again. In the time it took to make that comment you could just type into google and get the answer.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    My primary media device is a PS4, so while a pihole might do something, I can't add anything to the device itself.

    I just mute and look at Lemmy on my phone till I can skip the ad.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Ultimately you can still control your own perception, so that's good to mute and ignore if that's all you can do. Of course eventually they'll develop technology to not continue playing your show until they see your eyes are looking at the ad and it's unmuted, like in Black Mirror.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ublock Origin for desktops, RVX for Android phones, SmartTube for AndroidTVs.

    You can setup each one in two minutes following the instructions on the download pages.

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  • Me with 15 different ad blockers, 2 VPNs, and a DNS so anti ads it could be the Hitler to adverts everywhere:

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The only thing I can’t skip/block seems to be Twitch, but I concentrate on the adverts, I study them, log them, consume them, so I can funnel all my energy into hating the brand. I’m never buying a Renault, watching Chainsaw man, and this year I’m cancelling Prime because they have interrupted my day.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The only reliable method for twitch that I've found is just VPN-ing it to a random country like Bulgaria or another region where they don't serve ads. IIUC that's basically how many twitch ad blockers work, by loading the stream playlist through a vpn. Tunneling the whole app is a lot easier and works just as well for me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    This comment section is so Lemmy

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I literally cover my face with my hand and only leave a gap in my fingers where the skip button is. I'm not watching youtubes AI filth commercials. They are super cringe and ROUGH AI.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    It's gonna get worse

    A cafe has developed a sensor whose door only opens to people who "smile"!

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