I don’t know if this happens, or if it doesn’t. There should be zero tolerance for even joking about this. The only thing that I will assert is this: If this happens, and some combination of: another branch of government, state governments, the public, law enforcement, the military, and the media, don’t immediately halt everything and throw his as in out, then the United States is over. I don’t mean ‘over’as a descriptor for decline. I mean it’s just immediately done. There is no nation, there are no laws and we have no constitution. The entire project ceases to exist immediately.
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He 100% doesn’t plan on leaving when his term is up. This stupid ass Epstein Ballroom that he’s having built (amongst other things) is proof of that.
I don't think he will be cogent enough to not be shitting himself by 2028. Bannon et. al, keep acting like Trump is a fit, lean, 57 years old and not the fat, addled 79 year old following his own father into the sunset of dementia.
I honestly doubt that Donnie has a single more year left, let alone that he'll sit out this term, let alone that he'll do another one.
But when the Cheeto is dead, shit is going to hit the fan
The backup plan is A Weekend at Donnie's.
Cognizance doesn't matter when they pin him being a religious figure.
The man is going to be in his mid 80s! Retire for the love of god! Go drink a mojito on the beach like a normal fucking person!
He's a narcissist. Letting go of ANY shred of power is unimaginable, because he deserves EVERYTHING. Any scrap of power he has relinquished has been at legal gunpoint.
Bannon seems swollen, age really doesn't forgive, fortunately.
Yes, of course he is (if he's still alive). His term doesn't end until Jan. 20th, 2029.
Unless he dies he'll be President in 2028, his current term isn't set to expire until 2029
This feels like the sort of intentional ambiguity someone like Bannon would do to test float an idea. If people freak out he'll just point to the technical truth and if they don't he's taken a step to normalizing the dictatorship.
Idk, they make it abundantly clear in that interview that they are angling for a third term and skirting the 22nd amendment. He can blabber all he wants about technicalities but at the end of the day he explicitly states he'll have another term, shit he even said two if that's what they need to "finish what they started."
Just think about a 90 year old Donnie rolling around the oval office in a mech suit or something with his head in a glass jar Futurama style. We're gonna be so great...
Trump will be POTUS forever. The face generated by artificial intelligence as the spokesperson chosen to represent the interests of the oligarchs who actually rule, before the general public.
@Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world the last time Bannon went on about in like January he was saying since the constitution doesn't say you can't be president a third time, just that you can't be elected to it (Like LBJ had initially entered the race for his third term before dropping out of the primaries, as his first term he wasn't elected to since he fulfilled the remainder of JFK's his assassination) Trump could be elected VP on a Vance/Trump (or anybody else who wants to get his name in the history book) and resign right after being inaugurated so Trump could complete the rest of the term.
Addled mushbrain probably won't be able to form actual sentences by that time. Not that he could do that before.
Education is important. And not doing drugs. And not being a worthless narcissist nepo who has never worked an honest day in his pathetic life. And not being stupid. And not being a thief, a pedo, and a rapist...
So the constitution doesn't actually prohibit anyone from serving more than 2 terms as president, it prohibits someone being elected to the office of president more than twice (or once if they assumed office for more than 2 years of someone else's term.
In 2029 Trump could be elected as speaker of the house and then Vance and Dr. Evil resign as POTUS and VP and bam, Trump round 3.
Trump could also be directly elected to the Vice Presidency, though the legal ground there is shakier given the 12th amendment.
Ultimately, SCOTUS would need to weigh in because there is enough ambiguity in the constitution to allow for just the scenarios above.
Good thing SCOTUS is chock full of no-nonsense nonpartisan jurists of the highest integrity.
The 12th Amendment provides that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President.” As such, anyone barred by the 22nd Amendment from being elected president is also ineligible to serve as vice president, and so a twice-elected president cannot return to power through vice-presidential succession.
If a person is constitutionally “ineligible to the office of President,” they are also skipped over in the presidential line of succession under the Presidential Succession Act (3 U.S.C. §19), which prohibits anyone ineligible to serve as president from assuming the office.
The ghouls in power currently don't understand or don't care, and by the time this is tested, it will likely be rubber stamped by the supreme court. But, there's still value in understanding ahead of time that no, that is not a constitutionally valid approach.
the Presidential Succession Act (3 U.S.C. §19), which prohibits anyone ineligible to serve as president from assuming the office
"No it doesn't. Your statement is now literally incorrect."
- USA SC
Not quite.. the constitutional requirements to be president are simple: Natural born citizen, 35+ years old, and US residency for at least 14 years.
It is an open legal question whether and how the 12th and 22nd interact to determine eligibility. The intent seems clear, but the language of the 22nd very plainly concerns only election to the office, not assumption of it.
Calling it “an open legal question” implies meaningful doubt, but in reality, the text, intent, succession laws, and scholarly consensus have already answered this decisively. The only way this alternate interpretation prevails is a corrupt supreme court. Oh..wait. 🤣
It's never been tested, so it is an open question. Not many people would be bold enough to try, and I don't think Trump actually will either, but eventually this will go to the Supreme court.
The main problem is, at the time the 22nd was written, there were plenty of cases of presidents who weren't elected to the office, so why would the text specify only the electoral pathway if it were meant to cover all possible pathways? Even in the most broad reading (no elected official can become president after having been elected president twice), there remain appointed positions within the line of succession - namely secretary of state - that would completely avoid the election clause.
I agree with you that the intent of the 22nd was to ensure a 2 term limit. Unfortunately the language is not that definitive and the current administration has little concern for following the unwritten rules.
though the legal ground there is shakier
Like everything he's done every single day since inauguration
Tell me you don't understand how election/inauguration works without actually explicitly saying it…
No doubt he’s learned some tricks from Poot. Only question is whos going to be the US’ Medvedev.
I think they mean Stephen Miller staying in office, not Trump.
Of all the crazies in the upper echelon of the regime, he scares me the most.
He's absolutely psychotic, toxic, and unhinged, wrapped up into a person way too put together to know anything about hyper masculinity.
And the full military is in his control.
Bannon actually. But, he seems to be backed by the tRump 2028 hats.
That shitty old bitch is barely lucid. The reaper is laughing at this "plan".
He went on to call Trump a “vehicle of divine providence.”
How to make fascism even worse: mix it with a religious cult
I mean, yeah. And he wasn't president in 2024. That's how election cycles work.
(Just pointing out the stupidity, obv the whole thing is batshit)
Rename it Supreme Leader If The American people and have no rules on how long he can be there.
Or change his name and SSN
That guy might croak, such clowns these people.
Death is inevitable even for the most hate fuelled of pieces of shit like him.
Which, for me, will be there best day in a long time. The bit that really fucks me off is that he'll not die in prison, like he deserves.
Furthermore, because of the spineless wankers in his opposing power, even if the us population manage to get the obese imbecile out of office he'll still not feel any consequences for his crimes and actions.
I'm not american, nor want to be or ever wanted to be. Hell, it's been off my holiday list for about 15 years, and I'm absolutely furious about him just getting his way all the fucking time. I just don't know how you -intelligent and not corrupted- americans can stand it.
They have a plan?
Holy shit you guys, these ghouls aren't lizard people! They are god damned cylons!
Does Bannon actually have any inside information though? I feel like he was sidelined a long time ago.
I mean, it’s not hard. Vance (or whoever) runs as President, Trump in the VP slot, then if they win, whoever it is resigns. That’s literally all it takes.
You have to be eligible for president to be vice president, for obvious reasons. Sane states won’t allow him on the ballot.
Question is, are there enough insane states to let him win?
It might be good to start compiling lists of states and where they stand and making plans to force those that can be influenced to make the right decisions. I hope the dems are thinking about this but I don’t have much faith.
Well if Biden could simultaneously be president and corpse-in-chief, no reason why trump couldn't do it too. Notwithstanding he has no concept of term limits & post-mortem limitations.
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