I get that the people who buy this stuff might not know what needing an always-online service to function entails, but what were the designers thinking?

Here i am with my primitive bed with zero electronics.

These are the same people that elected trump AFTER seeing his stupidity for four fucking years.

But then you might be able to bypass the €25/mth subscription on your €3059 mattress cover.

You have upset the shareholders.

You are correct!

But you know what isn't as easy or basic as that? Convincing Product Managers and others on up the chain that you should be able to take some time to code and test to fix an issue they don't give a fuck about because it doesn't affect their metrics.

And the air bladders have a leak that was usually dealt with by it being plugged in so it deflates and you’re left with a very flat and hard bed.

then they will have to cope of buying a 2000$ "normal" mattress. its the same people that bought 1800$ smart fridge from samsung. last december deal we purchase a normal mattress for less than 120$

Eight Sleep confirmed that while AWS was down, the metrics collection system was still working using internal memory. This means the dead man’s switch is engaged, and any attempt to power it off would violate the terms of service, causing the bed’s very obvious human-sized mousetrap to have its safety disengaged.

But even that makes little sense as it should take commands locally and any telemetry should be done after the commands are issued. This method basically says “if we ever miss out on telemetry data, it’s just not worth it to us to give you what you already paid for. “

IoT devs avoid MQTT and Multicast traffic like the plague.

eh perhaps to collect usage data and somehow benefit from it.

i heard people got locked in, or out of thier house on thier smart"locks", and also ring cameras were affected because the ALARM SOUNDS WOULDNT TURN OFF.

Because we have webdevs and think of them as devs. They are not devs. They are mostly idiots.

Its a feature, make the product unusable if its not used as they intend. Take the sim card out of your car and watch it go into limp mode.

They crave your data! They made it so that it cannot function without your sweet sweet sleep number!

I feel weird because I've like never had a problem with bed temperature lol maybe pillows but even then that hasn't been a problem for me in years.

Smart thermostats are really important for managing heat pumps efficiently. Especially when they're multistage. I mean, not necessarily that they have to be always online, but they do benefit a lot from more smarts than the basic thermostats of the past.

"We are going to bill you extra for the downtime service."

seen this complaining on r/mildlyinfuriating all the time, people complaining thier SMART appliances was not cooperating like thier old non-smart appliances.

Agreed. If it doesn't work with Home Assistant or requires me to use an account to use it, I'm completely not buying it.

to drink smart water in.

So in my case (I didn't want to, but not my choice, but at least it was cheap and without subscription at the time), it was about the water cooling/warming. It's really nice and essentially inaudible.

I think Chilipad is a brand that does it without the online bullshit, though I didn't get to try that.

None of this should ever require an internet connection, and it's abundantly clear that's an anti-consumer hostile forced behavior Eight Sleep did.

Do you seriously think old alarms were unhackable?

That would require thought. Something that anyone buying a "smart" device, lack.

same people would buy supreme branded items, or cybertruck.

Much like Cybertruck owners trapped and burned to death. I guess they did nazi that coming.

its like a smart fridge, or a smart electric toothbrush, something that requires an internet connection, usually it connects to an app on your phone to control certain features on said appliances, which people are too lazy to do themslves. when AWS went down, apps, or sites that uses aws went on the fritz.

The fix is investing in redundant internet at house from multiple providers. Satellite+fiber and achieve 99.99999% uptime so the bed won't Crash and allow you a good night of sleep.

Yeah, uh... That wouldn't have helped here since it wasn't a drop in the internet on the user's side that fucked shit up; it was whatever shit is going on with Amazon's servers that make up a huge chunk of the web's backbone.

The fix would be having your phone talk directly to the bed instead of having to do anything over the internet at all. Or just having a normal fucking bed that is dumb as shit.