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[–] 121 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Jesus was a manual laborer who became homeless to travel and preach his message. He made a point to spend time with lepers and the dregs of society, tax collectors being the worse of them all, because they served the occupying army.

His message was for everyone to love each other. It wasn’t open to interpretation. He made no exceptions. The less fortunate and oppressed were even more deserving of love and support from individuals and from the community.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It wasn’t open to interpretation.

    And yet, 2000 years later, here we are.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    The problem is that you actually read the Bible. These "Christians" never have. They interpret all right but read....nah.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This isnt entirely true. In the fundie circles i grew up in, it was heavily encouraged to ready the bible cover to cover as many times as possible, on top of that required to memorize entire chapters. They know whats in there and they dont care. Thats even scarier imo.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You know how the Romans collected taxes in there less "Roman" providences? They have rich guys a contract to basically raise taxes and the rich guys payed up front what was owed for their division of it. Then they were allowed to collect taxes beyond what they paid the Romans to make a profit. This is mainly why they were hated so much. Many people might imagine some official going around and collecting taxes fairly, but the reality was they were operating much more like a Mafia extorting protection money out of people, and taking more then most people owed, often to peoples ruin or near ruin. You can also imagine how nepotic this becomes. People who have loyalty to the dominant ruling class would often catch a break, while those disfavored by the dominant faction would often be harassed.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    Well that would certainly explain why the tax collectors get such a bad rap in the Gospels.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's also the origin of some anti-semitic tropes. After Christianity rose to prominence in the Roman Empire, Christians considered lending money with interest to be a sin, so they were forbidden from working related jobs. This resulted in Jews, who were forbidden from owning land and many other professions, taking up the role of merchants, money lenders, and tax collectors. In the Christian view of the time, they were doing the "dirty work" because they were immoral and sinful, and the nature of the work made them easy scapegoats for many of society's ills. The reputation has followed Jews into modernity.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I’m honestly not sure how you’re helping defeat any stereotypes here because no one was even talking about Jews until you brought it up.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You know Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism, right? How early roman christians viewed and treated Jewish people is reasonable context to include in a conversation about the history.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Sure it is, in the same way that Satanism is an offshoot of Christianity, I guess.

    Perhaps that is not how it is practiced these days, but that IS how Christ intended it to be. Just read Matthew 23 in case you have any doubts. If that is not a scathing repudiation of any Rabbinic teaching that was around at the time, then IDK what is. If you can find a more eloquent way to say "shove all this crap up your own ass and die from it", I can't wait to hear it.

    Remember, they had the guy killed just for saying that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You know how the Romans collected taxes in there less “Roman” providences?

    Well that would certainly explain why the tax collectors get such a bad rap in the Gospels.

    Pretty sure it's a bit related... And there's nothing wrong with learning a bit more about history

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Sure. Judea was one of many such provinces, and of course there were Jews there, though I don’t know how many of them would have actually been working as tax collectors before Christ, seeing how usury is forbidden in the Torah.

    Being dispossessed and forced to work in unclean professions was their punishment for killing an innocent man. Nothing antisemitic about that, they knew what they were doing and chose to go through with it anyways.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It was open to interpretation from the very beginning. Exemplified in the fact that the four canonically approved gospels (we will ignore all the non-canon gospels) are contradicting each other in various ways.

    Fine if you choose the interpretation in your comment, but perhaps it would be even better not to let your life be ruled by what random persons made up in their fan fiction 2000 years ago?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm sorry but in which one of the "canonical" Gospels does Jesus say fuck the poor and love yourself more than anyone else?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I mean if you believe in God knowing everything and everything is happening because of his will, then that gives you the ability to rationalize everything, doesn't it?

    Oh you have cancer? God gave it to you, if you didn't deserve it he'd have cured it. Done, use that everywhere: poor, homeless, immigrant, race, sick, traffic, lightening, flood, airplane crash, school shooting, ....

    That's why blind faith is dangerous. And the idea of afterlife because they just do whatever now.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That was a huge plot point in the new South Park.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It was also a huge plot point of the Bible.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    But America wasn't a thing or even an idea when the Bible was written.

    (I totally get what you are saying, though.)

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Um. Ackshually 👆🤓 the Mormons are KJV only loyalists, so their Bible does indeed predate the USA.

    The Book of Mormon, however, does not (unless you’re Mormon, in which case you believe it was translated from the golden plates, engraved ~400AD and based on earlier plates which Mormon (the person) and his son Moroni found and compiled). Think of it more as an addition to, rather than replacement of, biblical canon.

    I will now remind the teacher that they did, indeed, forget to collect the homework. I have an appointment with a locker, after all.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Reminds me of being a pastor's son at ~5 and asking the Sunday School teacher if Satan could be saved, since God wants everyone saved. I was sincere--it troubled me that there was a creature that was without hope. Now I understand I should be happy that fucker is burning eternally. He should've never messed with God! That's just normal adult stuff! You live and learn!

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Buddhism has a more Christian example of Christ-like behavior concerning a "living being Satan". That is to say, if "living being Jesus" was real, he would be a Bodhisattva, perhaps akin to Kṣitigarbha.

    In the story, Bodhisattva Kṣitigarbha vowed:

    “Until the hells are empty, I will not become a Buddha.

    Only when all sentient beings are saved will I attain enlightenment.”

    It is a vow to never abandon any being regardless of their state.

    I like that idea. Boundless love and compassion doesn't stop at the bounds of some hell. It is boundless. It has boundless time, so it will spend an eternity reaching out to even cyclic hells.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm a Buddatheist who grew up with both cultural Catholicism and later Christian Evangelicism.

    I like how this hints at the nature of the self. If I leave someone behind am I not also leaving myself behind?

    For me, ethical acts are those that increase the freedom of the self and others. We all suffer. That's a fact of life. If we dissolve our concept of the self and acknowledge our link to others and the world itself we can see ourselves more as threads going through human experience. If we are kind to ourselves and "others", we have a better chance at reducing that suffering.

    Imagine the time a stranger forgot their wallet and you paid for their coffee. A version of that experience could still exist in that person's mind long after you die. It could get blended with other experiences and reinterpreted. It could be told as a story to a friend who was inspired by the act. The cascading effects of that person being properly caffeinated on that day could have world changing effects. In a similar way, I carry the shared experiences of my own ancestors and even strangers who have shared their stories with me. They are still alive as a small part of me because my true self is humanity or even some animating life force of the universe or something like that and the name that people call me just refers to the limited perspective and incomplete view I have of existence. Essentially I see existence as blinders limiting my perspective like a race horse, but the true self is a satellite view of the track. When I act, I do so based not only on my experience, but the collective experience of every perspective and experience that has been conveyed to me in every way, but I am still one human body, in physical space, subject to time. I hope that when I die, those blinders will be lifted and I'll exist as pure conscious perception of everything that ever was is and will be. Able to see through anyone's eyes, in any time. To feel any and every feeling felt my an animal or human. To view the entirety of existence as a completed masterpiece from outside time itself.

    You can probably see why I like the Buddhists.

    I find that when you acknowledge the interconnection of things compassion becomes easier.

    I hope that people rediscover that within themselves and others.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Buddhism sounds like this incredible ascetic ideal to the Westerner, until you hear about Buddhist terrorists.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Buddhism in the western world is a sanitized and very narrow part of the positive aspects of the religion. Like taking the teachings of Christ and ignoring absolutely everything else about Christian religions and what they have actually practiced.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I will join the first religion that allows me to re-unite with my beloved cat, after I die. Stupid christianity tells me that my animals don't have souls, when in fact, they are far better beings than most humans.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nice. I like 99% of what I've encountered from Buddhism.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Of course! Because heaven and hell are made up and facts don't matter!

    (Maga Christian don't believe in facts or science)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's an interesting take.

    Let's confine the statement to the bounds of a materialist's reality for a moment and see how it holds up.

    A child somewhere in the world just had their arms blown off withnessing their mother and father evaporating before their eyes. In the mind of this child, is it in: a) normal Earth life b) heavenly Earth life c) hellish Earth life

    A woman somewhere just discovered their partner has been cheating on them with just about everything that moves, and they have HIV. She has always been loyal for all the many years they've been together. In the mind of this woman, is she in: a) normal Earth life b) heavenly Earth life c) hellish Earth life

    A soldier somewhere just fired on a little kid they mistook for an enemy. They go to sleep that night haunted by what they've done, finally realizing they are the bad guys and everything they are is a lie. They've done unspeakable horrors to so many innocent people, and it is all rising to awareness. Is this solder's mind in: a) normal Earth life b) heavenly Earth life c) hellish Earth life

    Heaven and hell are manifested here in Earth within the hearts of all beings.

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  • [+] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The biggest one for me was, "Why doesn't he want them to know they're naked?"

    He gets all pissy because Satan ruins his perverted, non-consensual peep-fest and decides to curse literally everything for all time. Fucking gross.

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  • [+] 10 points 1 year ago* (4 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Also weirdly into the importance of being willing to sacrifice your children as an act of necessity sometimes (literally both Abraham and Jesus, plus the plagues, David, etc...).

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    IIRC, Yahweh evolved out of El, who the OG hebrews considered the best god of the Canaanite pantheon.

    The Old Testament starts making more sense when you realize that there were other gods in the pantheon at one point. Like all the whining about Ashera is because she was El's ex.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    If we believe that the various Satans (in the original Hebrew, literally "adversary," and rendered without the definite article so there are probably multiples of them) are in fact one and the same with the Devil (singular), this link-up doesn't even occur until the Book of Revelation which is firmly a new testament thing and wholly unsupported by any of the old testament or ancient Hebrew sources from which it's derived. Making all the assumptions required on basis that this is so, then whoever he was killed a lot of people in Revelation. But not until then.

    In old Hebrew tradition, the Satans are sort of the prosecuting attorneys for god. They work for him in order to tempt the faith and righteousness of various people. Several mortal people are also given the moniker of "Satans" when they're working against the interests of god or various other individuals.

    Meanwhile, the notion that Lucifer is also one and the same with the Devil or any kind of Satan is a much later interpolation made when the church(es) of the era wanted to insert a bogeyman into their religion and they needed a justification for it, some time in the AD 200s. Lucifer is identified as the king of Babylon, a mortal, when he has attracted god's ire in his sole appearance in Isaiah 14. The situation has become so warped that his name was finally removed in the New International Version of the bible and he's simply referred to as the "morning star, son of the dawn." (Isaiah 14:12, if you want to go have a look.)

    Modern pontificates will also insist that the king of Tyre in Ezekiel 28 is also somehow the Devil, which is dubious. Even if he were, and god were speaking allegorically for precisely half of his rant as we are thus demanded to believe, god smokes him at the end of the passage anyway so it's a moot point.

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    Oh, one other point of order on that as well: Obviously even if it's not all bullshit (spoiler: it's all bullshit), Revelation is supposed to be a prophecy of the end of times which obviously hasn't happened yet. I'm pretty sure we would have noticed if it did, what with the sounding of the seven trumpets, the worldwide earthquake, the 200 million horsemen slaying a third of mankind, etc.

    So even if it's all somehow inerrantly true, the Devil hasn't killed anyone yet.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Holy shit, I'm not religious at all, but 5 year old u/potoooooooo is the CUTEST fucking thing.

    Ugh, children really are innocent/wholesome, and its the adults around them that inject poisonous ass ideas into their minds.

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    [–] 38 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    What's even weirder is being raised by Christians, taught to hate the blacks and mistrust the Jews (using the usual inappropriate slurs at every opportunity), never going to church outside of a few Easters, and growing up slowly learning that your parents were full of shit and they never actually read the book they said was so super important.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I've never understood things like pervasive distrust of Jews, but blanket approval of all things done by Israel because Jewish people are "God's chosen people." It's so much mental gymnastics to selectively justify hating Muslims and any Jew living in a large city, and completely ignores the point of the NT, which was to not make the religion tied to blood lines.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    like pervasive distrust of Jews

    Historically that's a manufactured thing. Christians were not allowed usury, charging interest on loans. Jews didn't have that limitation. One solution they came up with was barring Jews from doing other jobs and forcing them into the money lender role, with the Christian landlord asking for their cut in fees. That gave Jews a reputation for being distrustful greedy bankers.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Another part was that Jews were quite spread out over a lot of areas and didn't have a "home country" to back them. You see a similar level of distrust, historically and even today, against Roma and Sinti.

    So Jews were always a minority that was easy to scapegoat for all sorts of problems.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Also Jews refused to become Christians and Christianity wants to convert people.

    The most entertaining part for me is that Jesus was a Jew, so Christians hating Jews as a group means they hate Jesus.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Israel is integral to their eschatology. They can't have Armageddon without certain conditions being met. Supporting Israel is intended to facilitate the the creation of those conditions.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've never understood that. Like yes, I'm sure the rapture will be a wonderful thing when it eventually happens (especially given the conditions the Bible says it'll happen in) but we're literally told not to live to fulfill it. It's not some endgame event we need to trigger, it's a promise made for some point in the future we're not meant to know (and certainly shouldn't be trying to make it there). We should be living for God and helping our fellow man and trying to make the world a better goddamn place. Why the hell can't people see that?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They hate jews but worship a jew. So fucking weird.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I mean he was a pretty shit Jew. Fellow Jews tried to stone him to death “for blasphemy, because [he], a mere man, claim[ed] to be God” (John 10:33).

    I think the hating Jews thing has nothing to do with Christianity, though, it was always just an excuse. There’s no reason Abrahamic religions should get on or not based on any scripture, it’s all just politics of the time.

    For eg. having different holy days, Friday, Saturday and Sunday was all so they could share a place of worship, this is largely forgotten or covered up (literally, in some older buildings).

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    It makes sense if you don't think of it from the viewpoint of principles and ideals.

    Antisemites are in general all for zionism. Antisemitic Brits were the ones who made Israel possible in the first place, and even the Nazis supported the creation of Israel. Because it's not about the Jews having their own country where they can (supposedly) live in peace, safety and freedom, but it's about Jews moving far, far away.

    And with Israel being a western "outpost" pretty much in the centre of the Muslim world, there's a secondary effect: If Israel and the Muslim countries around it are fighting, that hurts Muslims without causing too much trouble for people living e.g. in the USA.

    (These are obviously not my views. I'm just trying to explain why many antisemites are pro Israel.)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    It's tied into revelations (which these people tend to revere more than any other part of the Bible). There's some bullshit about all the Jews returning to Israel being the start of the end of the world so that everybody can go straight to heaven do not pass GO do not collect $200. So they don't actually care about the Jews of Israel they just want to go straight to heaven so they want all the Jews to "go home".

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If they identified as Christian but never read the book or rarely go to church, what connection do they have to the religion and why do you feel they wished to impart it on you?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hierarchy. The invisible sky wizard makes the rules, and if we don't follow them we burn. And so on down the line, priests, pastors, presidents (unless they're black, hoo boy did that send them over the edge), police, parents. Do as you're told. Do not question authority. It's practical preparation for school and the workforce at least.

    Meanwhile, all of my birthday parties were keggers because the weather was nice and the adults liked to party. And I was at most 4 years old when I learned that I shouldn't touch the small squares of mirror. Or the plastic film canisters.

    There's nothing quite like the smell of hypocrisy in the morning. Overflowing ash trays and last night's beer cans when you're trying to eat breakfast comes close though.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Funnily, you see similar things with e.g. Americans who lived for generations in America, but still identify as Irish, German and so on.

    My wife's late grandma had a daughter who moved from Germany to the USA at age 18. Her children never lived in Germany. Some of them have learned a bit of very rudimentary German. None of their children (the cousins of my wife) learned German in any meaningful way and they maybe visited Germany once or twice as children. One of these cousins (the second generation born in the USA) now had a kid (third generation born in the USA) and they called their kid "Schaefer" to "honour their German heritage".

    "Schaefer" is a misspelling of the word "Schäfer", which means "shepherd" and is, if anything, exclusively used as a last name in German (German countries are quite strict about what's a first name and what's not). There's actually a registry of first names that were given to children in Germany, and the name "Schaefer" doesn't occur once over the last 80 or so years that this registry covers.

    So they identify as "German", even though they never had any meaningful contact with the country and couldn't even be bothered to google whether the name they chose to "honour their German legacy" was actually a German first name.


    TLDR: People identify as all sorts of garbage, because it makes them feel cool or makes them feel part of something, even if they have no clue about or interest in what they identify with.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

    I was “raised Christian.” The top reasons I despise religion is the a) hypocrisy from top to bottom, b) a person can go through life wrecking others others in ways that may be devastating, permanent, and/or traumatic that they have to live with forever and are supposed to just accept it like some mind of lesson from god, yet the person who does all the damage gets to go to heaven if the ask for forgiveness in just the right way.

    Yeah, the whole “love each other and forgive everything” lessons of my youth have been replaced by “fuck you, I’m getting mine” christians.

    E: also, the victim complex. Constantly fuck with other people, try to force your religious rules and views on them, and then when criticized or those people otherwise defend themselves or their position: “You’re attacking me! You’re attacking our faith! You won’t let us practice our religion!”

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Actually American Americans are the "Pharisees". They just hate to be called to be called out by Jesus.

    They act like Pharisees. They talk like Pharisees. I hope they will be judged like Pharisees.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Does anyone actually think these pseudochristians are actually pure in any way?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They do. That's why they're so hateful to anyone who contradicts them.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I figured most of them for the “religion is a useful tool to manipulate others” instead of actually believing in any sort of purity - other than rationalizing their shitty treatment of others.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I think the rationalization of shitty behavior is key. Everyone is the hero of their own story, and there is no end to the mental gymnastics or cognitive dissonance people will go through to remain the hero.

    It's almost Occam's Razor. It's easier to believe someone is a selfish hypocrite than some kind of moral-less grifter.

    That's not to say there aren't grifters, just that the vast majority have drunk the kool-aid and keep drinking it because of a warped sunk-cost fallacy scenario. If I stop drinking, I have to admit I was bad and wrong, so I double down and stay the good guy.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You need to read your Bible more often if you think you're the first person to have noticed that.

    I recommend Isaiah 30:8-17.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Lol, the Bible is full of contradictions that are all rationalized and interpreted by the wants of the individual and leader. No desire to dig into that any more than I already have.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So... it's just like people are then?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Not quite? You can have a person that does all those things on their own, sure… they aren’t part of a “club.” But when religion using that bible makes a group of people all doing the same thing it can be very destructive.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I guess the real question is whether using a Bible makes people more likely to mess up, and less likely to notice, or vice versa.

    I understand that the former is what you are currently experiencing, but in order to form a statistically valid conclusion, you’d kinda have to be scientific about it and do a proper null hypothesis test, wouldn’t you.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    I literally told my mom that I was affected by doge spending cuts in multiple ways that make my current life unmaintainable. I can't afford a 400% in my insurance premium. I use buses and doge cut the grant to my city that kept them fully operational; my city cut routes and reduced buses on the routes they tried to keep on top of freezing the wage for their workers for 4 years of the worst inflation America will see. And she's just like "I'll vote for Trump again, at least he is not a woman"

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