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[–] 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Break free, implying they won't support Pixels anymore (is how I interpreted it at first anyway), but they are simply expanding support for more devices. 👍

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    For existing Pixel users, GrapheneOS plans to maintain support for current devices until their end-of-life dates. The team is working on adding Pixel 10 support, though the timeline remains unclear. Whether they’ll support Pixel 11 and beyond hasn’t been decided yet.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It'd be funny to me if Pixel sales tanked a significant amount and it turns out that people only used their phones for Graphene.

    Me personally, I don't like Pixel phones. But I've owned every single one of them through 9 Pro.

    I look forward to a Graphene future.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    I'm glad this is getting some traction now, but this is some poor reporting. This is one site reporting what another site saw, which was just GrapheneOS restating things they've been saying since the summer, with no new info. I read both this article and the one they link to as their source and learned nothing I haven't already known for months just from casually checking on GrapheneOS socials.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'll speculate.

    My money's on Asus. Asus is a bit more mainstream than Nothing but still enough of an underdog that I think they should see the value in a partnership. They already target an enthusiast niche with the ROG line.

    The Nothing Phone 3 uses an SD 8s Gen 4, which is not Qualcomm's "flagship" SOC, and it would be stretching the definition of "major" OEM, but who knows? This seems the most likely after Asus.

    Moto's only flagship Snapdragon phone is the Razr Ultra, which I guess is possible. It'd be weird, but hey, I'd buy one.

    OnePlus has been moving in the opposite direction for years now, locking things down more and more. I think they're too big for their britches at this point.

    Sony's flagships are crazy expensive, well beyond the price of Pixels. They also don't cover the US market, though I'm not sure how important that is to the Graphene devs.

    HMD doesn't make any phones with flagship SOCs. I think their best is the Skyline, with a 7s gen 2, Qualcomm's fourth-tier SOC line (the "s" stands for shitty).

    Fairphone doesn't use flagship Snapdragons and GOS has had some pretty nasty things to say about them in the past.

    Samsung is a pipe dream. They'd have no motivation. The entire GOS user base would be a rounding error to them.

    On a global scale, Xiaomi would be a huge get. Not sure I see any of the Chinese OEMs focusing on this though.

    Lenovo and Blackberry...might still exist? I think?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Asus would be nice, I've liked most of the zenphones but either didn't support my carrier/bands or something like that or they stopped allowing bootloader unlocking which is why I didn't think they'd be on the list but this would be a great way to jump back in as an option for enthusiasts.

    Also would love for it to be RAZR, I really want one but also want GrapheneOS but hesitant to buy a pixel.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    I wish fairphone could be the thing, but unfortunately - doesn't seem to be the case https://piunikaweb.com/2025/10/13/grapheneos-ending-pixel-exclusivity-new-oem/

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I'm out of the loop. Any examples of this?

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    They shit on other projects all the time (frequently unprovoked, sometimes without the original conversation having anything to do about security). They also often reply with multiple posts with multiple paragraphs each when shitting on other projects. It shouldn't take very long to find an example if you trawl through their replies on Twitter, Bluesky, or Mastodon.

    They have good points, but they're often either not relevant to the conversation or worded in such a way that it sounds like every project other than GrapheneOS is dogshit.

    They also sometimes go on (IMO) paranoid rants about XYZ project systematically trying to destroy them or whatever.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I got the same vibes when they describe in detail how supposedly terrible Firefox on Android is for security. I actually didn't believe them just based on the tone.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I mean, I think they're right that the security is worse. I'm pretty sure it's worse on desktop too, just not nearly as bad. Last I checked, Firefox on Android still doesn't do per-site process isolation by default, for example.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I’m pretty sure it’s worse on desktop too

    worse than what? What browser is better?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Blink-based ones (Chrome/Chromium, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc.)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Somehow I don't believe you when you say that those browsers are better for security.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Yep. They need an actual comms professional. I love GOS and am forever grateful to the team but having a bunch of non-nuero-typical devs speaking for them is not doing them any favours.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    For me, it would be the opposite. Their "unprofessional" and aggressive way of communications makes me think they are doing it for convictions rather then personal benefits. The person that's helping you doesn't need to be overly polite. The person trying to get something out of you does.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I pray that my Pixel 9 is my last Pixel.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Could Fairphone count as a "Major" Android OEM ?

    They do use snapdragon chips, are priced roughly the same as the pixels, and might align the most with a project like Graphene and its values ?

    One can dream…

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It would be my dream as well, I won't buy it unless it's respirable anyway

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I advise against inhaling your phone

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What about some old iPad Air from 2013?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean it's got air in the name so it's gotta be all right

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Doesn't seem "it's finally ready" when they didn't name the name.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Amateur marketing speak for "we're considering bringing it to other hardware"?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's not marketing speak because GrapheneOS didn't say it. It's a bad headline from a site known for bad reporting. GrapheneOS has been talking about this for months and there's nothing new in this article that wasn't already out there.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No need to defend it. It was obviously a comment on the headline; I didn't care who wrote it - the criticism was directed at whomever vomited it up. Tech publications are as much uncritical PR agencies for tech companies as the latter's marketroids are.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    i hope grapheneos keeps supporting pixels, if possible. i liked pixels way before I discovered grapheneos due to the cameras that I still think are on top in the android world, and when I became privacy conscious it was a perfect add on to an already nice phone imo.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Good camera was just a byproduct if better post processing on Google. It was true maybe 5-6 years ago that pixels had too of the line camera. But these days, even Motorola can manage a comparable camera to pixel.

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  • This needs to happen so bad. Very excited for the future of mobile computing. We are so back.

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  • [+] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I guess i know what my next year's phone is gonna be.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Please let it be Nothing or OnePlus 🙏

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I hope its blackberry, id love to see them re-enter the market, and i'd love an excuse to buy one.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Finally escaping from Tensor jail. Hopefully the new phone has a decent design.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I hope they announce what that new phone is before my Pixel 6 goes EOL

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    As long as it isn't a Chinese OEM. Most likely going to be Sony or Nothing?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Nothing is pretty much a Chinese OEM...

    The phone is fully designed, engineered, tested, built, and firmware written in China... Pei just has his marketing office in the UK so he can claim it as a UK company. Maybe they give some aesthetic design direction in the UK too. Pei has a history of lying to make his companies seem like something they aren't.

    (Though they did have a couple of software job postings up recently, so maybe they are trying to slowly change that and do some of the software in the UK)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Aww damn. Well let's hope it's Sony then (or someone else reputable)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I am still rocking my Xperia 5ii. The fingerprint sensor stopled working after 2 years completely (a known problem that persists to newer models and it is thought to be a hardware problem, but it doesn't happen on any other phone with a power button fingerprint reader and booting in safemode and back or a phone reset to factory can fix it for a short time, so I think it is planned obsolence in firmware), the software support only lasted 2 years (1 android upgrade IIRC, I am on 12), and the battery usage is 2.5-3% per hour with the screen off on 4G and 2%/hr on WiFi.

    Other than that it is a great phone! Pro camera app is also awesome.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I still do not trust Sony after the CD rootkit incident.

    Maybe HMD?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    HMD is a Chinese OEM. 90% of their phones are just off-the-line Foxconn reference designs with almost stock android.

    It is the illusion of choice that happens when companies and IP are massively consolidated into monopolies.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Chinese? They're headquartered in Finland and even make one model in Hungary

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Their flagship models only IIRC.

    But the principle of an ODM is that the company lets another company completely design, manufacture, etc... Their product and then they paste their name on at the end and sell it as their own, which is why the design is often identical, because it is a reference design with a couple tweaks.

    Like 99% of the cheap smart watches do this, as well as the Nothing CMF line. The non-flagship HMD line historically did this, maybe it changed in the last couple generations have changed it?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How is the quality of their phone? Does this person lie about the products themselves or just company?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'm typing this from a Nothing Phone 2 I got about a year and a half go and I love it. Still gets monthly updates, stills runs fast and is updated to A15. Battery is starting to slip but as long as I'm around 40-50% charge before a trio or going out that's more than enough. Really like the nothingOS customizability, reminds me of the OG oneplus phones but not what they are currently.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I have heard that their phones are pretty good!

    The thing is, all phones nowadays, even OEM Chinese phones are good. 100€ budget Samsung's are good because there hadn't been any actual phone innovations for a decade.

    I think it is just him and his way of marketing his companies, not the phone itself.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    I'm hyped! Get the OS on a foldable on-par with the Z Fold 7 (in terms of thinness, camera quality, battery life, and UI featureset), and I'm sold. I am so done with Google and Samsung's bullshit. If I wanted an iPhone, I would have bought an iPhone. I'm tired of them copying Apple and somehow managing to be even worse at it. I don't want to be forced to use use either of their shitty app stores.

    FWIW, I'm aware that I'm going to be waiting for awhile.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Fuck! I brought a pixel just for GrapheneOS 2 months ago. Hoping they would continue the support.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Honesty I would just wait it out if I were you. I really regret getting the pixel 9 (since my last phone broke).

    There is nothing new in the pixel 10 the only area that desperately needed improvement was the battery which is just as bad if not worse than the 9 and the modem still sucks. It is not fully bad but because of low reception it fights harder to get signal and therefore burns away the battery even faster.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I hope they add supports for more foldables!

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Would love to see oneplus support.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    For my brokes ass I'm just going to keep buying secondhand last-gen pixels, but its good for the overall market to get an expansion in grapheneOS support.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    yes please!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Cool! Gonna wait for a Graphene Phone now!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I never understood why a privacy and security focused project would use Google hardware.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Because only Google provided everything needed to actually fully support the hardware it runs on. Besides, hardware is just the skeleton, as long as you exchange the brains inside, you are fine. Like a bomb shell but empty inside.

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