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RIF stopped working so I started using Liftoff for Lemmy instead.
Don't really use the desktop site.
Same except Jerboa
I now use Voyager because the liftoff Dev had twin kids and naturally they take priority.
Is it good? I'll change if it's better than Jerboa.
I browse exclusively on my phone, so deleting reddit apps and installing Lemmy apps was the biggest step for me.
I primarily browsed All, so setting my default sorting to All Top 12 Hours was key.
Finally, I made a point to comment and post more. This is where Lemmy beats Reddit hands down in my opinion. You can comment on posts that are hours old on All and still have meaningful discussions. Trying that on Reddit is like screaming into the void.
Edit: I also forgot to mention that I upvote almost everything. If you made a post that I read and it's not complete trash, you're getting an upvote. Same with comments. I upvote almost every comment I read - especially ones in response to my posts or comments. I feel like it let's people know they're being seen.
Your edit is a bit like that in the Fediverse in general. Since there's no algorithm, liking a post in Mastodon does nothing beyond letting op know you appreciate them. I like that.
I hate this phrase. There are several algorithms. There's new, hot, rising, etc. There's no company manipulating content discovery. That's the difference. Algorithms are great. For-profit companies with an incentive to control content is bad.
In the Lemmy word, sure. I was referring to Mastodon where there is no hot or rising. It's just based off of who you're following and when you check. Hence likes doing nothing but informing the poster of your appreciation.
I guess fair enough, though every other federated site I know of uses some other algorithm, and you seem to have been talking about the fediverse in general, not Mastodon, except for the example. Still, Mastodon's sort is still an algorithm. You can't display anything without an algorithm. That word just means a set of rules to complete a task. Mastodon uses one that only uses who you're following and time to decide what to display.
Algorithms aren't the issue. We can have sophisticated algorithms that help users find the content they want. That's great. It's when there is an incentive, and ability, to influence the algorithm by the platform controllers when there's an issue. The fediverse solves this not by ditching algorithms, but by having no singular controller.
On the web client, if you go to Trending, you will see "hot" posts (I have no idea how they're ranked) by folks you're not following. The official Android client has this too. It's where I spend most of my Mastodon time.
Edit: I also forgot to mention that I upvote almost everything. If you made a post that I read and it's not complete trash, you're getting an upvote. Same with comments. I upvote almost every comment I read - especially ones in response to my posts or comments. I feel like it let's people know they're being seen.
Oh hell yeah, me too. I browse all a lot (sometimes sorted by scaled) and even if something isn't for me, if it seems like something others would like, it's getting an upvote.
For me, the realization of how toxic Reddit can be combined with how lost in the crowd I felt was enough. I enjoy the smaller feel to the communities and that I can actually have a conversation instead of getting buried in comments was just the right combo.
Heh, on Reddit, I just avoided the larger subs. r/gaming was the worst gaming sub (aside from subs for free competitive games that are playable by children)
I'm curious how the Counter Strike subreddit was. It wasn't that bad I don't think a long time ago, before Reddit was as large as it became, and also before it was free. Now that Reddit is a hell-hole and the game is free, is the subreddit horrible too? I'd imagine it is, but I'd expect it to lean a little toward older audiences than the other games, so there's a chance it's fine.
The moment they announced increasing censorship was what did it for me, basically it was the 'It's only a matter of time before I get banned on here so I might as well nuke my account while I'm still ahead' realization when that went down.
Even just reading Reddit without an account sucks because Redlib is always getting blocked.
It took some time for me to realize that not finding a continuous stream of new content was a feature and not a flaw. It meant that there was no algorithm feeding me an endless stream of crap in hopes of keeping me glued to the screen. It meant I could close the app and move on with my day and check back much later. That realization made me embrace it.
Honestly, reddit drove me away. I got tired of being hounded by engagement bots asking inane questions, and in the wake of reddit going public, the comment police regularly were nitpicking my comments, reading into them intolerance that simply wasn't there. I was just sick of it all. Reddit has a much bigger userbase, but lemmy is more friendly. There are occasions where it would be nice to post something niche and have a robust discussion, which requires a site with more mass appeal, but I'm not interested in all the drawbacks of dealing with reddit.
That is what happened to me.. the bots banned me within a minute for a metaphorically based - though salty - post. 14 years.
Thing is, I noticed a change in the algorithm not too long after the IPO since my homepage started in with more rage-bait subs and many were ones I'd not visited or even heard of. It was subtle but also kinda disheartening. I decided to manually delete all of what I could and as I was going through the posts I noticed that the art subs I used to go to had all but disappeared on my home page.
I used to go to photoshopbattles all the time and as I was scrolling my home pages, it was nowhere to be seen. Nor was AppleHelp, VintageApple or MacPro..
It's a bummer because reddit used to be really cool. It's like when you discover a cool little cafe or something that you love going to. Eventually more and more people discover it, and it becomes a bit more crowded, but you still go. Then it gets written up in some magazine or something, and the crowd becomes nuclear. It becomes a tourist trap flogging merchandise, and they turn it into a chain, with the food semi-preprepared for mass consumption. The experience sucks and what was a special spot is ruined.
It will never be exactly the same, but I feel lucky to have found something that captures at least part of the feeling of what Reddit used to be like. Thereβs the potential for it to grow into something just as cool in its own way, or maybe even better. And for now, it scratches that culture and discussion itch well enough that I donβt feel the need to wade back in to Reddit at all except for searching for specific answers to niche questions.
This is it exactly.
And I kind of like that there are no total upvote/downvote stats tied to our accounts.
Prevents karma farming so it disinclines the behavior to rage-bait or post controversial items for attention.
(Remember u/unidan? Guy karma farmed hugely and eventually got rumbled creating some brouhaha over the difference between crows and jackdaws. Absolute stupidity that got the better of him..)
The content is more the focus here..
Reddit hasn't really been good since the alogorith change that made the front-page stagnate for a day. I got the most out of it when browsing the frontpage was completely different 6 hours later. Once they made it so that everyone who checked reddit that day would get the same experience, the spirit of the site died.
I've noticed that the lemmy front page has a much greater turnover than the reddit front page, which is nice.
The transparent and non user-tailored algorithms, may be Lemmy's strongest asset.
The weird thing is apparently, I wasn't allowed to delete my account last night. I thought I did, but I went back not too long ago and on a lark, signed in again. Account's empty of all my unarchived posts - since I deleted it all, but I still have access. Think I'm going to see if the PM's work and just start hoovering interesting articles and items from there. WTF, it's not like I didn't bring content to the site.. Gonna take the best of it back and bring it here. Fuck it.
Participating has really helped. I'm still struggling to post, but I try to comment wherever I feel I can add value, however small.
Build the platform you want to be part of.
"be the change you want to see in the world", or in this case, "go ahead and post stuff. Nobody here is superhuman, but we try to do the right thing and be chill with people who also aren't quippy dickholes" aka, be human.
I'm sure this won't last, but for now it seems to be better than Reddit, at least. The way I've thought about it is that this takes a certain level/threshold of technical know-how/problem-solving to enter, so it filters out the most casual of thoughtless people (for now). Like if you can't put some serious thought into morality or slightly deeper rationality into a situation, you probably can't jump the bridge to fediverse-lemmy.
Also, as time goes on, I'm noticing all kinds of communities fragmenting into smaller, more specialized communities. Hopefully, Lemmy can be the platform/community of thoughtful considerates who are slightly tech elevated and more social.
Commenting always has value dude! Even small ones are like having a passing conversation in line at a coffee shop.
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Have a great day buddy!
Reddit made it simple for me; they banned the app I browsed it with (Boost, along with every other 3rd party app).
I don't browse on my desktop, and I refuse to use their 1st party app, so using Reddit became too inconvenient.
Same here, as I only use open-source clients on the phone. It's been obvious for many years that the apps made by the social media companies are spyware, so I've stayed away from them.
But also I use the web mostly, and "switching" on the web just means closing one tab and opening another to visit a different URL. It's sad that many folks who use the Internet don't understand how or try to avoid the hellscape of app lock-in. The web is here for our open usage just as it has been for decades.
For me the content is just not quite there on Lemmy. Less stuff overall and less interesting and active communities. I wish Lemmy became a lot more popular because Reddit is firmly in an enshittification phase.
The moment old.reddit.com is gone, I'm done with it.
Less stuff overall and less interesting and active communities
Once you realize that 1) like 80% of reddit is just bot slop and 2) a handful of accounts post the majority of "content", you kind of don't care that reddit has seemingly "more active" communities.
Embrace the fact that there is a limit to the amount of new content and do something else with your time.
I just uninstalled Reddit and installed Sync for Lemmy. I'll still end up on reddit occasionally from a Google search result or something, but I don't go there intentionally.
Unfortunately Sync has been abandoned, so you might want to look for a new app soon.
That's sad. I'll keep using it until it stops functioning. Don't like my cheese moving unless it has to
I use Jerboa and it's not too shabby.
For anyone interested: https://f-droid.org/packages/com.jerboa
I'll try it out, don't like the icon as much haha.
I missed the quantity of content on reddit, but I do not miss the quality of replies on reddit.
If you're using the app, uninstall it. Delete your bookmarks, etc. Make it more than an idle thought to be on the site.
Use the time you would normally spend doomscrolling on reddit to do something productive on Lemmy. Look for new communities to join, reply to posts you would normally just upvote, post something to a community that could use a boost, etc. The place is far from empty but more interaction really helps to drive growth and build friendships.
See you around mate. π
Join a bunch of communities that you may be interested in to fill up your feed with a bunch of stuff to read. That way, if you want to take a break and read stuff, you can look here rather than on Reddit. You can look for communities here that are a close match to what you had on Reddit. Over time, you can dial them in and hopefully not feel the need to go back to Reddit.
I never go back and just to read Reddit. I only go there if a web search looking for something in particular takes me there.
This has been my experience as well. I use to browse reddit for hours every day, and now have some of that time back. The only times I find myself there is through a search result to get information. Logging out and deleting your account helps a lot, because when you instinctively check the homepage when logged out, it's all trash, and doesn't make me want to stay.
Just by keeping at it. Lots of posts don't get a lot of comments, seems like a lot of lurkers. My front page only has one post with >10 comments and the rest are at 3 or fewer. But Reddit is still in the top ten more-visited web sites in the world. So can't expect the same number of comments compared to the bigger subs there.
I never really posted on reddit. The apps I used to lurk all stopped working to one degree or another, and more and more of the content on reddit is just bots karma farming with AI slop and reposts.
Made it pretty easy to stop going there.
I came over here when they cut off 3rd party apps. I wasn't going to browse reddit without Boost, and theres a Boost app for Lemmy, so staying here was easy. I have gone back to reddit twice since, and both times were to check if GeForce Now was broken or if the problem was on my end. Unfortunately Nvidia is pretty terrible at keeping people updated when something is wrong with GFN, so the GFN subreddit is really the only way to find out what's going on. If I found an active GeForce Now community here I'd never go back.
My Reddit app stopped working, and the official app is dogshit; Reddit kind of made the switch for me
At first I was petty. Now I have other things to do with my time so Lemmy has more than enough content.
Subscribe to communities and/or utilize the 'random' search to find communities (be warned that nsfw stuff up though if your setting isnt filtered). Sort by new sometimes. Lemmy is more user-directed whereas reddit is company-directed. No more force-feeding you sponsored content - you can search out and eat what you like!
I really want some of my niche subreddits. They're like crack.
Obligatory fuck spez.
Yeah, Lemmy isnβt quite at that critical mass where the niche stuff is active. Thatβs one thing Reddit was truly wonderful at, because it had enough people that even the niche stuff stayed active. Like if only 0.01% of people are interested in something, and a service only has 1000 users, thereβs a good chance that youβll be the only poster.
I've found some super cool niche communities using the 'random community' search, which i think is a Voyager app specific option cause I'm not seeing it on desktop. I definitely recommend the Voyager app
Lemmy just isn't that good, you need other stuff too. I highly recommend finding independent niche website forums (the old school ones) for your interests and joining them. These are WAY less likely to have bots (unless political based) than Lemmy, Reddit, etc etc. They have real people, sometimes parroting bot stuff they saw elsewhere, but they are at least real and you can talk to them. And you get to know them because normally there's only like 50 active users on those websites at a time anyway. But damn do those 50 people know a lot about vaccuums, or trains, or magnet fishing or whatever the dedicated topic is for that site. It's the most unfederated you can be
Hi, noob here too. How do I find these niche sites. And then, how do I "follow" them?
Can you give me a topic or hobby that you'd be interested in joining a forum for? It would be easier to show you with an example and I don't want to doxx the forums I use.
I highly recommend finding independent niche website forums (the old school ones) for your interests and joining them.
I still get like 50 emails from those old forums on my birthday lol
I just stopped using reddit. I was so mad about having my 12 year old account perm banned for talking shit about Nazis I swore the entire place off.
I used to feel dread when I logged into reddit and saw that someone had replied to something I wrote. I no longer have an account there, and I even went for the nuclear option of overwriting all my old messages,
then deleting them in case they chose to restore them, because:
fuck spez
For me personally it helps that I'm on a dedicated instance for Danes, so that's kind of like a safe haven, or like a kiddie pool where it was easier to get to know lemmy at first.
I no longer dread when someone replies because most of the people here on lemmy aren't assholes. I think it's because there's this barrier to entry which filters out a lot of people, or maybe it's that the assholes are looking for fights to begin with and is therefore attracted to the biggest platforms?
I used to feel dread when I logged into reddit and saw that someone had replied to something I wrote.
I get that too. I turn off comment notifications now. It's almost always just some negative basement dweller trolling me.
Fuck Spez.
Edit. Also you can just outright block the shit out of people who you know are problems.
block the shit out of people who you know are problems
Funnily enough, I've mostly blocked NSFW stuff (and I'm not even a prude):
A bit too hornyposting hahaha
What did they even say to get considered too hornyposting?
I think it went like this: I was sorting by "top hour" and all I saw was this one person's NSFW posts. I looked at their posts just now and it looks a lot less chaotic than what I branded them as originally, but you know, all it take is just one bad day on main.
Got permbanned last year for saying tthat NeoNazis like Stonetoss aka Hans Kristian Graebner should be named and shamed. Tbh fuck that place. Reddit admins are Nazi sympathizers.
Sort by top 24 hours and theres much more activity than any of the sorting algorithms.
I do this as well. Works great for both serving me the most interesting content and limiting how much time I spend on Lemmy.
What part are you struggling with? Not enough content? I get it, but also that's a feature. If you dislike centralized platforms more than you want to rot your brain, it takes zero effort.
Reddit kept being shittier and shittier, the people got dumber and dumber, and I kept getting more and more worried about being about to say what I really wanted about magas being fucking terrorists. Then they killed third party apps, and while I tried to make it work for a little while, eventually they killed the workaround, and that was the last straw.
Fediverse/kbin/lemmy has been such a constant breath of fresh air, even if that breath continues to be bad news, that I have literally no reason to go back. The queer techie and neighbor tankies and based non-Americans just make this place so much healthier and positive in a time in history when we really need people who aren't giant assholes and who are awake at all and who make a conscious decision to at least try to do the right thing.
Getting permabanned on my main and any secondary accounts I had helped. The app on my phone I use for Lemmy makes it look pretty much exactly like the Reddit app so the only difference for me is less people which means some communities I'd like to talk to people in just has nobody in them.
I went from full lurker to participant since I felt like I'm not completely drowned out by others. That made it more fun, since Lemmy all feed is pretty small relatively speaking and lurking gets boring if you're expecting an endless feed of random junk. Plus, since it's small, you can also feel like you're contributing to the Lemmy community, since without your comments and posts, it won't exist.
Although get to the bottom of the all feed and things get wild.
That and everyone on here are not total contrarians to everything you post or comment on
No, we ARE contrarians. Take that!
Ugh. The contrarian quippiness there is so FUCKING sophomoric. And everybody being the same authority on everything and all being passive aggressive as shit. It's like a land where nobody wants to build anything and everybody desperately needs validation.
Here, though, we just want validation via trauma bonding.....
.... Wait a minute .... Is Lemmy a ...survivor-platform?
Back when reddit banned 3rd party apps, I just left. My account is still there, once in a while I check something on reddit instead of lemmy due to number of people.
Despite having some good karma and many years, I never felt like reddit "had" anything I'd miss by leaving. You know the "just go outside and touch grass" thing? Literally just leave the place for a week, uninstall any apps, block the site on /etc/hosts, make it enough of an annoyance to sidestep your own blocks and it'll help you.
I miss the finance communities on reddit. But everything else I looked into on reddit I can mostly find here. I also put the effort into posting when I can't find an existing topic. You have to have a pioneer mentality here to establish your community.
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