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[–] 61 points 1 year ago

Are these dumb fucks actually gonna push this?

Can't wait for full Linux phones and Linux PCs with seamless integration.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    That is terrifying

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    I don't like this.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Guess its actually time to switch to a linux phone. Hope one of them works with my hardware

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    PostmarketOS has a list of officially supported devices. Sadly that list is empty. We can wait but it's not going to happen by itself. Maybe everyone interested could fund a dev working on getting one device to be officially supported? I don't know if that would be welcome by the project. My point is, with the current pace, is the goal moving closer or further away?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Probably not time yet. The interim is an alternate OS such as lineage or graphene. Don't use google play and you're fine.

    Basically that's a short term solution to wait out this stupid policy to get fixed, or if they double down it gives Linux phones a bit more time to come to market (I have not used one, but its essentially unanimous they are not ready to be a replacement today).

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How does this affect LineageOS?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As long as your phone doesn't have Google Play services, it would not apply. With that said, if app developers decide to capitulate and allow this to occur, then there might be a lot fewer apps you can get to work on lineage OS without Google Play services.

    The way I see it, lineage and graphene will either have to fork AOSP and become operating systems in their own right instead of in name only. We will have to switch to Linux phones even though they aren't quite ready yet and deal with the hassle to get them ready, or have to abandon mobile entirely and go back to laptops and desktops and just declare mobile as a dead platform.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    From my understanding of the way the android OS works, alternative OSs can't really just become there on OSs because the would essentially have to replace the entire Linux kernel that Google currently uses, and no phone manufacturer as far as I know releases the drivers for their peripherals either. The first part I think would in theory be solvable, the latter would take a change in the way the phone ecosystem operates. Realistically for the latter to happen, I think we would essentially have to see certain phone manufacturers pop up who are willing to basically create an open platform with a driver offering and that would have to be the target.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Apparently Linux phones are missing a lot of features still? I would need maps, MFA app, banking apps, and (preferably) a Google wallet type function to make the switch.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Any password manager worth its salt will be able to generate 2FA OTP codes. I know KeePassXC can do it on desktopas an example. Banking apps may have to be replaced with banking websites. I actually switched to my bank for this exact reason, because my previous bank would not allow me to use the website for full functionality, which is why they are my previous bank. I'm betting somebody would be willing to port OSMAnd onto Linux mobileif it or something similar is not already available.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Thank you for your response.

    Right, so a bitwarden Linux desktop client could be the 2FA solution.

    Banking websites: fair point.

    OSMand is an option. Perhaps Organic Maps would work too as it already has a desktop Linux client?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Using the fact that KeePassXC can generate ToTP codes was more an example that any password manager worth at salt should have that ability. It would not surprise me at all if something for KeePass would be made available on Linux Mobile.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have a Nokia G42. Are there any operating systems that will run on it other than Android, or will I need to buy another phone?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Doesn't look like anything for Ubuntu Touch, PostmarketOS or even LineageOS. If you are looking at another phone each of the operating system's websites list compatibility and what features are supported.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Does HarmonyOS allow side loading? I just got my Honor Magic V5 but don't see myself staying on it long term. I wouldn't update past a certain Android release but I will run the risk of being on an insecure release.

    Edit: Confirmed. HarmonyOS Will Support App Side-Load. Maybe F-Droid can move to OpenHarmony.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Google wants to control everything. So bad operating systems can't be installed on phones as easy as on computers.

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    [–] 51 points 1 year ago

    Hey alphabet/google STOP BEING EVIL

    Obligatory FUCK GOOGLE for good measure.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean, it kind of sounds like it's time to start looking for alternatives to Android. Linux phones work well enough, but there isn't a good reason to migrate right now, and the app library for Android is more mature. If the app library is cut off at the knees, then there's a reason to migrate.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    As far as the app library thing is concerned, I think that depends on the distro and if there are special requirements for the apps it runs. However, if it can just simply run Linux packages with a touchscreen interface, then I already mostly migrated to multiplatform foss apps that I can export my settings to.

    However I really don't want to buy a new phone anytime soon. I was planning for this one to last me atleast 5 years.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    my next phone is gonna be a linux phone regardless of any downsides, im sick of this shit

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ahhh sooo now Android is turning into Apple. I guess this should have been seen as coming since google killed the open development of Android. I'm out of the loop but aren't there versions of Android that aren't google based?

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    [–] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Google is currently on the verge of massive court-mandated changes to the Play Store. After losing the antitrust case brought by Epic Games, Google also lost the appeal. As it explores further legal maneuvering, the firm may have to begin opening up its app distribution system by promoting third-party stores on Google Play and mirroring Google Play content in other storefronts. This will reduce Google's monopoly power in Android apps, which is the court's intention. However, the company's new goal of locking down sideloading could maintain its central role in Android software.

    F-Droid calls on concerned developers and users to contact their government representatives to demand action. Specifically, the site suggests invoking the European Commission’s Digital Markets Act (DMA) to keep FOSS apps free from Google's gatekeeping.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That calls for another question: would Google vet and mod content on other stores joining in? From their logic, installing apps from Epic Store is a sideloading too unless they themselves approve it, no? I hope that this act would be seen as a violation of a current decision, them going for a second round with EG.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I never realised that f-droid was compiling from source and assumed the app devs were providing compiled binaries and saying "trust me bro". That was fine to me and I'll still want a marketplace app that gives me access to foss apps so I hope they can find an acceptable compromise.

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  • It will also kill any incentive to buy an android phone. Seriously fuck those people.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    GrapheneOS keeps looking better and better.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That's not a bug, it's a feature.

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