They're trying to soften the blow by adding new features to each tier, but it's still just to disguise a price hike. More games are coming to the $15 tier, but it still won't be day and date releases. First party games come to the $15 tier "within a year", but that's even excluding Call of Duty.

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[–] 70 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I used to be a huge advocate for Game Pass. I've played so many games I never would have without, and have saved so much from buying games and not liking them.

30 a month is insane. It now outpaces my buying rate and I can't justify it. The lower tiers just don't do it for me. They finally killed an Xbox Live customer since the 360.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Same here. This year I switched from using the Xbox Live to Game Pass upgrade thing to have it all the time, to paying full price for Game Pass only during the months when I'm actively using it.

    The more expensive they make it, the less I'll pay.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It was always a scam.

    Hopefully you learned your lesson and won't go to bat for corporations trying to get you to rent access to something you could be getting for free.

    Use your brain before your wallet, always!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Jesus, did all you people pissing on fans of Game Pass stand outside of Blockbbuster back in the day?

    I paid for a service KNOWING I was renting. KNOWING the service would eventually enshitify. KNOWING it was unsustainable at past prices. I rode the wave as long as it made sense, the ride is now over. It's just like the Movie Pass deal a few years ago, milk it for all its worth while you can.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I don't think the comment above is talking about GamePass specifically. They're talking about the "I've been an Xbox customer since..." stuff. That kind of corporate loyalty is a scam. You never should buy a product because you owned the previous one. Do what's best for you when it's best for you. Don't give them any loyalty. Make them earn your purchase.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Even if that was the intention, I used the platform while it worked for me, and I saw value. The minute I didn't see the value, I left the platform. No tech company (and most companies) has had my loyalty for years. The minute they do something I don't agree with, I'm out.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    As with almost all subscription services, the enshittification was inevitable.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Except this one even started shit.

    Call me oldschool, but I like my games available when I want them, not held hostage behind a subscription fee.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Let's not forget that games leave Game Pass so there's an element of FoMO

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Some have even left while they still have early access plastered all over it. When you load them they say "this is a work in progress and doesnt necessarily reflect the finished product.

    I think "cool. I'll play that when its finished because its a good concept" then its leaving gamepass.

    Fuck you im not paying to be a beta tester. You should be paying me if anything.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That's a valid opinion if you want ownership over everything else, fair.

    But to blanket-label Game Pass as "shit" right from the start really isn't fair to all those people for whom it was good value, and gave access to a lot of games they probably wouldn't have been able to justify otherwise.

    Personally it wasn't for me, because I too don't like subscriptions, but for some of my friends it was and I respect that.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It was good value in the short term...but anyone capable of forecasting longer than 36 months knew instantly it was an awful deal, even compared to someone who had Playstation Plus and its free games + discounted games since the Sony hack in 2011 and doubly so compared to someone who bought Humble Bundle instead.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It definitely was awesome if you were someone who gets bored of games easily and moves on. I think I get a high from the whole new game thing then it dissipates after a few hours.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago

    Those people should just learn to pirate and stop being useful idiots.

    They should also get into emulating so they can play all the better games that they missed out on.

    But let's be real: it was about consumption for the sake of consumption.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago

    isn’t fair to all those people for whom it was good value

    Yeah man, same argument for the people getting ripped off by their drug dealers.

    Who cares if the dealer is making 500% profit? If the loser junkie thinks it's a good deal, then it must be!

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    30$/month is hilarious. We all knew they were going to increase the price to justify how much microsoft is spending but at that point you might as well buy your games. I guess it would make sense if you're playing every day one release and are already subscribed to other things that are now included such as fortnite, ubisoft+...

    but 99.9% of gamers are not that obsessed. I have a hard time believing there are many people willing to spend 360$ to play games that will disappear as soon as you stop playing. and I have a hard time believing most standard game pass subscribers will stay subscribed now that recently released games aren't included. That was the only reason I bothered subbing for a month every year or so

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Even if you play every day one release, there's hardly one of those per month. The math used to work out, for a long time, that one month of Game Pass was about 1/4 of the cost of a full priced new release, so going for a subscription made some kind of sense for a certain kind of consumer. This is a hard sell.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah I agree. I never used Gamepass as I am not the target audience, but the value proposition made sense to me and I understood why some people paid for it.

    This new pricing makes no sense at all, wouldn't you rather just buy the games you want at that point? $360 a year gets you a lot of games, even accounting for a couple of AAA day one purchases every year.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I have a hard time believing there are many people willing to spend 360$ to play games that will disappear as soon as you stop playing.

    I hardly spend $100 on games a year. Subscribing to Game Pass means I'm overspending by April, and for games I don't even own. Insane proposition.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This was always the plan and it will absolutely get worse. corporations only care about "line go up" they have never and will never give a fuck about the "customer".

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Steam fall sale is happening now. Just picked up a ton of good games for less than 30 :)

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Still paying for things you could be getting for free.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Well I’m glad I’m already not paying them for this anymore, saves me having to cancel my subscription now.

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  • [+] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    Keep in mind, this corporation has data saying people are willing to subscribe to office software when there are legally free alternatives.

    All the morons subscribing to these scams are data points for analysts to point to and say "See? Look at how stupid these people are! There's no reason we shouldn't be charging them more because they love to pay it!"

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    We all knew enshittification was coming, but it spooled up faster than expected.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is this for the PC only version too? I can't tell through all the marketing speak.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    https://www.theverge.com/news/789424/xbox-game-pass-premium-essentials-ultimate-price-increase-changes

    Microsoft is also increasing the price of its PC Game Pass subscription today, moving from $11.99 a month to $16.49 monthly — a nearly 40 percent increase. Microsoft isn’t trying to justify this increase with any added extras for PC players, though.

    “The only change happening for PC Game Pass subscribers is that they won’t be getting Ubisoft Plus Classics, but they’ll be getting about 50 additional Ubisoft titles across PC Game Pass,” Blackwell says. “It will continue to get day one titles.”

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Don't suppose there's still a cheap trick to buying 3 years of vouchers for relatively cheap and upgrading to Ultimate? That worked great in 2022, but I'm guessing they shut it down.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    CDKeys is definitely not what it use to be for this stuff. Use to get a dirt cheap year of basic, convert with a month of Ultimate n good to go. Or some variation of that. I think those days are long gone now unfortunately

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Those billion AI GPUs won't pay for themselves you know.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    FYI - as of this posting sites like cdkeys (now loaded) have some og pricing but it's quickly rising. Buy em if you want to get through games like Outer Worlds 2 before dropping service.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ohhh you really got my hopes up there. I was like "There's an Outer Wilds 2!?" all excited

    But no. There's only an Outer Worlds 2, sadly :(

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    do they inject ads into loading screens and cut scenes?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Canceled my subscription. Fuck you, Microsoft.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    That's it, this is the last Xbox console I'll ever buy

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    At one time XBOX fanbase were so desperate to play games like Halo and Gears of War that they were wrapping their dead XBOX 360 in a towel and putting it in an oven to resurrect it. That sounds so insane but it actually happened. Fast forward to now, Microsoft has raised hardware prices twice since May and now raising price of their game pass by 50%. Clearly they're no longer interested in increasing XBOX market share or even retaining it. They've pivoted their strategy to milk their current XBOX fans as much money as they can until the brand is completely dead.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I don't think the Burberry strategy is going to work for you guys.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We used to really enjoy game pass as a family. I think the best part is discovering games that we wouldn't have played otherwise. But at some point we stopped using it, so we cancelled. We've gotten 1 or 2 months free or cheap a couple of times now, but I ended up mainly playing one game... Although I suppose I did discover that I liked Avowed more than Expedition 33 😳. If I'd had to buy them, I would have only bought Expedition 33.

    So I think we'll keep going like this... Once a year or so use a cheap trial to get a month and try a lot of games, and use steam sales the rest of the year, and every now and then buy a full price game we really want.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm so glad I use Microsoft Rewards.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Are you also aware that you can no longer use those to get Game Pass?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    More than a 100% price hike in my country. Just downgraded from ultimate to premium because my kid has an Xbox and it is still cheaper than buying the games individually.

    But, otherwise I would have cancelled the plan.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Woo!

    The morons who love renting get to pay more now!

    I love watching this!

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Fuck that noise! Cancel that shit.

    GOG is the only store you can actually buy games from and not merely renting them.

    Support indie devs and not the subscription of some corporate shitheads

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    That's not fully true, a decent amount of Steam games have zero DRM. It's not as convenient as the GOG installers, but you can make an archive of the installed game and run it again without Steam.

    I say this as a long time user of GOG who tries to get games from them over Steam (when possible).

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Xbox is BDS - if you support Palestine, now is a great time to cancel your Gamepass subscription and stop funding genocide.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    My g/f is all about the x-box and pays for the game pass. She argues it lets her try games without committing to purchase. And I was like, "that's what demos are, and they used to be something the industry offered for free." $120 a year for the cheapest plan so I can demo single player games. I could buy 3-8 games that are new to me for that price by being a late adopter and getting it on sale after reading user/industry reviews to give myself a shot at being happy with the purchase. In the time I've known her, my g/f bought one game she played through the pass because it stopped being available through the pass, (party animals is the game in question.)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Including Fortnite Crew in Game Pass Ultimate is a terrible justification for the 50% price increase. How many people who play Fortnite enough for Crew to be useful also play other games enough for Game Pass Ultimate to be worthwhile?

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