“Yet”

The investigation will continue until we have completed the manufacturing process.

Utah is on the left side of the Country, he must be left!

They don't need any links or ties to justify their hate. They just need feelings of being oppressed, wronged, robbed, and disrespected. There is no excuse needed to blame and attack people who aren't like them. It's in their DNA, they've done this since before this country was a country.

Yeah, no kidding there is no connection because there is virtually nothing organized on the left. And what prominent left wing groups use the kind of stochastic terrorism that the conservatives use?

I mean, on the conservative side, it starts from the very top, with Taco, and continues on down to the very bottom to your average red-hatter. All of them constantly make threats involve violence, all the time.

Taco talked about "second amendment people".

Project 2025 architect says there will be a bloodless revolution, if liberals allow it.

Kirk gets shot and the conservatives all, without knowing anything about the shooter, decared war on the majority of the country...

lol It’s so obvious that they’re starting this investigation with a “conclusion” and they’re trying really hard to make it fit.

He's a shadow recruit of George Soros, who is incredibly rich with $7 billion, which is a lot more than Elon Musk's paltry $429 billion and why he's so much more effective than poor, sensible, people like Musk at influencing politics and must be stopped. /j

But somehow trans people are the terrorists. The Heritage Foundation even cited Tyler Robinson as evidence of "trans shooters"

What leftwing groups or even prominent individuals in the US with any actual following advocate for political assassinations and direct violence against rightwing people they don't like? Where are all the lefties supposedly making calls to violence and terrorism?

The media and even a lot of people here will flip a shit about someone like Hasan Piker being so radical and yet if he even remotely said something like "maybe we should just start shooting rightwing media figures" an overwhelmingly massive chunk of Hasan's audience would tell him to fuck off and cause an uproar because that clashes with the basic foundational ideologies of leftwing movements in the US, they are about obtaining a state of freedom for all, the idea of targeted violence has little salience to a US leftist as we are well aware that 1. senseless violence doesn't change anything, it will not lead to freedom for all, it just accelerates the bad things. 2. the ruling class in the US will jump at any chance to radically villainize the left, the bulk of the country will blindly follow along in this, thus random senseless acts of violence aren't just bad because they are evil they actually existentially threaten leftwing movements in the US as a whole, leftists in the US are WELL aware of this...

The difference between the left vs the center and rightwing of the US is that the left actually builds coalitions on shared values, most leftists in the US these days are strongly influenced by figures like Bernie Sanders who has been mainly focused on broad social programs to improve people's quality of life like healthcare and for fighting wealth inequality. How the hell would advocating for shooting someone like Charlie Kirk make affordable healthcare more likely in the US? How would it help get the public focused on Citizen's United and getting money out of politics? Leftists in the US are about ideas and policies, this isn't just an aesthetic, if you enter US leftist circles and start advocating for targeted violence as retribution, preemptive violence or really for anything for any reason at all the leftists around you are going to turn on you for being a hateful bastard trying to distract from the actual issues at hand.

If there is one thing that ties virtually all leftists in the US together it is that we fucking LOVE to argue about things.... so much so that sometimes we can never agree on stuff because we want to argue the little details on and on forever. It is not lost on us that the very first thing that happens when you commit violence against others is that they stop listening to the wisdom of your arguments and ideas.

Bullshit. I heard his bestmates' mothers' hairdresser's nephew once changed the oil on a cars transmission.
Checkmate, you murderous loony lefties!!!

Reality doesn't matter.

Man I really thought his steam play history (specifically power washing simulator) was going to reveal some radical left links!

If the Discord groups he hung out in were leftist or in any way "antifa" they would have been screaming about it this whole time. He hung out in far right meme circles. It looks like they've decided on the lone, crazy gunman approach so they can avoid accountability yet again.

That is a load bearing “yet!”

But we sure are lookin'. Cletus has gotten into generative AI, so we'll see what comes up.

Trump: "If you can't find evidence, invent some. Here, have a sharpie."

Bro he has 2 discord messages in like 4 years and they read like 'trump might get impeached' and 'it looks like trump is in the lead' on election night.

Is there some line where it's acceptable to start murdering oppressors? No one would argue against jews murdering their nazi oppressers, but bisexual murdering homophobic stochastic terrorists? How much must one endure before being permitted to act in favor of their own survival?

Utah gov about to have another press conference, ‘he was so deep into the leftosphere that we haven’t even been able to uncover his presence yet. Mark my words, we are working hard to find the connection.’

And there won't be.

This was predicted during the first Trump administration. A MAGAt is primed for violence for ten years & then figures out he's been lied to and propagandized the entire time. They then use that violence on the very scum that lied to them.

Sometimes the Stochastic terrorism boomerangs.

They’ll fabricate something.

Here is what we know for sure about the shooter's politics. His entire childhood, he was raised right wing. He even dressed up as Trump for Halloween a year or two ago.

Unless he specifically joined a group that promotes violence, there is simply no reason to think that his violence came from anything but his childhood.

So, even if it was hypothetically true, what MAGA has been saying, that he had recently been dating a trans woman, and his politics had changed, even if that hypothetical was true, it would just mean that his conservative upbringing that glorified violence got a different target.

Doesn’t matter the right made up their minds about this the second he was shot.

It honestly doesn't matter. Did or didn't, left right, or corkscrew. If we knew definitively now factually 100% he can conclusively be put into 1 bucket. The facts don't matter to them. The truth is already in.

To be on their side, you "know" the "truth".

And if you don't "know" the "truth", than by gee you seem awfully suspicious mr...

If he was a lefty they would have been rubbing our faces in it day 1, not doctoring social media messages.

I'm sure the guy who modified a hurricane path map with a sharpie wouldn't cook up the result he wants on this.

But damn it all if they aren't going to spend millions looking.

Why not look at the other wing group? Ah too much evidence

They’ve already spread the message that he is and they’re not known to retract anything, just double down if they’re proven wrong, so they’ve already done their damage. It doesn’t matter what the investigation finds.

I hate to say this but I feel like nbcnews will be shut down for this article

don't worry, They don't need actual factual ties.. they've already made plentiful amounts of false information that fox news and other conservative outlets have run with.

cause its not about truth and facts, its about the narrative.. and the narrative has to be about how hateful right wing extremists are the poor victims of the big mean liberal agenda.

So no evidence of collusion with left wing groups and no word about anything on right wing groups.

Not that I trust any of these law enforcement to do any actual due diligence in their investigation of this guys ties to racist Republican ideology even though his whole family is MAGA.

The reality is people are messy. They don’t typically fit into neatly defined boxes and neither do their politics, even when given a forced choice in a duopoly every 4 years.

What we know so far. He’s from a conservative Christian family and was raised such that he knew how to use that family rifle and make that difficult shot. And he may be gay with a maybe gay or trans partner, it’s all very mysterious. And the reporting on his politics are flip floppy. No neat box there.

And the engravings, if the article I read today is to be believed, they reference a meme and Helldivers 2? Some inside joke about nuke dropping or something. ??? Was this half LARP for him, hence the disengaged texts afterwards?? Who knows.

There’s no neat and tidy here, no matter how much the perception management brigade wants it to be so.