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[–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, free users of Spotify could not pick which track they listen to???

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Well, on PC or tablet you always could, but on mobile it was always album random shuffle... and if you created an album of less than N songs, in mobile they added related tracks in the reproduction (radio-spotify like) so it remained not possible to control what you listen...

    EDIT: I updated the verb tenses to the fact that now you can in the mobile app chose the song to play

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Easier to let users play music for free when you don't pay the artists I guess

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  • [+] -16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    None of you were. Y'all were stealing it for years.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Lol, I'm a vinyl nerd, I've probably given more money to the music industry than to anything else except food

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    cool, my "music" folder filled with mp3s could always do that

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I'm so confused. Couldn't you always pick what track you wanted to play?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Nope. At some point spotify forced FREE users to shuffle play playlists. You couldn't pick which specific song you'll hear first. And with ads, obviously.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Damn, when I joined way back when, you could pick the track you wanted you just couldn't skip and had to hear ads. Being able to pick a track is the whole reason I moved away from Pandora.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I've recently moved away from Spotify and to Pandora, ironically.

    Pandora premium let's you play whichever track you want, they are not longer exclusively stations, but their station algorithm is the reason I decided on them over other spotify alternatives

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Currently, for free users, only PC or tablet allows to control what you listen (caveat occasional ads) but mobile constraints to a shuffle reproduction of albums, and if you dare to do a short album they spice it with additional related tracks, so you are never in control of what is likely to play...

    EDIT: well, apparently I can do that also on my mobile app, I remember in the past some glitched occasions bit it seems is real now...

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    K. Still waiting on the lossless that supposedly dropped

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is this the onion? They add the basic feature of a media player where you can listen the title you clicked and not random stuff? If I understood correctly, this is not a feature, it's just a restriction being removed

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    wow the music app finally lets users select music! I'm sad that this is actually something to look forward to.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Be happy it was free and ads could probably be blocked.
    Would you appreciate it more if they blocked the view of the library like the videostreamers like Netflix or D+ do?

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  • [+] -16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    No, it's not. Even more so if you like your artists.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Buy their merch rather than feeding the beast

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Even if that was ok, I'm sure people who pirate buy a ton of merch from all the artists they pirate, that's why all those artists get a ton of money.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'm sure that small to medium artists don't get fleeced by Spotify and get a ton of money from a service that almost everyone in the west is using. /s

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Some more things I'm sure of include that Spotify exists for the artists and won't sneakily replace them with Suno-generated shit at first opportunity or fuck with people's legacy of holy playlists or make the interface more cumbersome to alter users' habits, or increase the price until the frogs start jumping out. It's allowed to exists through the graces of biggest publishing conglomerates whose C-suite and shareholders get the lion's share. Fuck fucking Spotify.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm sure they are on Spotify (which is shitty anyway) and other streaming services by choice. And if you are against streaming services, feel free to buy their albums.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I use bandcamp to throw some cash at them, it's a fair offer and ok price.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    It's probably the most popular music streaming service at the moment.

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  • [+] -19 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Sure, for the morally bankrupt

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Who is any better? Literally all are paying pennies to the artist per stream.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tidal pays more than 3x what Spotify pays. Qobuz pays like 5-6x.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Although better, still very little in comparison to bandcamp

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Sure, that's true, though if you allow streams on Bandcamp, those pay $0, so in terms of "try before you buy", any streaming service is better. It's only if you actually sell an album on band camp (or AmpWall, a smaller indie service that does a lot of the same stuff) that you'd get paid, as an artist.

    I say this as a musician who has put out several albums both independently and with a label.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tidal doesn't host far-right mouthpieces, offers much higher quality streams, and pays the artists far, far more per play.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Yeah. Just started my self hosting journey a few months ago, looking to replace Spotify at some point. I got a NAS with Jellyfin set up, my next step is replacing Google photos with Immich probably.

    I do appreciate Spotify will be adding lossless music soon, but they have so many other issues.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Mostly for random song discovery considering my previously liked songs, I regularly download/obtain those songs I like for offline reproduction and preservation... online stuff has short lifes

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I love product updates as part of my technology feed....

    I miss old technology feeds in the classic internet days. That actually posted and listed out cool stuff with technology

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Winamp with a cool custom skin and downloaded mp3s was better than Spotify imo.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I know it's cool to shit on spotify and streaming services on Lemmy, but personally I disagree. I loved Winamp and had tens of thousands of songs back in the day, downloaded on my zippy 56k dial up connection. But being able to search for and play virtually any song available instantly and share collaborative playlists, no matter where you are, is so much better.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why would I decide what I like to listen to when am algorithm can do it for me?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I fully jumped on the Spotify bandwagon hoping the algorithm would decide what i listen to, I'd become stuck in a rut and hadn't really listened to anything new for a good 15 years.

    Well... After letting it figure my music tastes out, every single automatically generated playlist on there starts off with crap I just immediately skip before devolving into the same 5-10 songs I listened to pre-Spotify. So i guess it knows my taste well? But it has turned out to be useless for this too!

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    is spotify being desperate, or there is an ulterior motive?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Call me a hardcore Spotify fan boy: I paid for Spotify for 15 years, I loved it, I even applied to worked for them. The product was great and unmatched so as I didn't care about the problems, so many problems. things were getting progressively more problematic but in the end, King Gizzard convinced me to quit. I don't regret it a single minute. Fuck Spotify.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I had an account day 1 when Spotify launched in my country. It was such a big deal to me, a person who spent their teens and 20s hoarding music. One service and it was most of the music I wanted. I could sideload my own music and shuffle it all together.

    I miss that little app store on the desktop client. You could join shared radio stations and vote on the next track while people wrote to each other in a chat.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Spotify being nice? Absolutely not. There certainly is a hidden agenda behind this.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I've not seen anyone recommend an alternative like Qobuz in these "fuck spotify" discussions - I think it's a good honest alternative?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I recommend .

    Jokes aside, the only reason I use Spotify is for discovery and the vast catalog (primarily the JP music market).
    And I havent seen Qobuz be mentioned in any capacity by japanese artists.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ah this is an interesting point. I think Qoboz are active in expanding their libraries and they do take requests on site. Do you have any JP recommendations - its not a region I've ever really listened to?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Japanese are difficult to deal with.
    It sure was a process to get them to release on Spotify. Before that they tended to stay on Apple Music.

    Examples of artists I liked:
    Tokyo Health Club - J-Rap but a bit more lo-fi
    -> One of my favs: https://youtu.be/GSRfeUHZZN8
    -> Honorable mention: https://youtu.be/ErLSUsqERm8

    • Crazy Beats (Touhou - Eurobeat Remixes)
      -> Just open any of their songs and listen ;)
    • Akatsuki Records (Tohou Remix - All kinds of genre)
      -> Same here
    • Hololive (A group of vTubers that also release music of all kinds of genre)
      -> https://youtu.be/twUFbqyul_M
      -> https://youtu.be/WGgEFoI9MhE
    • Ado (Also very diverse voice and genre selection. But usually more towards pop and pop-rock-like releases)
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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Seen the recommendation plenty of times.

    Is it better than TIDAL? I'm interested in switching to either of those, perhaps.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I only used Tidal a while back during a free trial, so can't comment too much. I think Tidal might have more wide spread functuonality adoption than Qoboz - but they do seem to be pushing out updates to meet feature parity.

    Qoboz has been great to use though. I actually find I get a wider spectrum of recommendations than Spotify. Spotify seemed to type cast my current listening habits agressively, and it would take a while to break out of that loop each time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Cool, thank you!

    Any experience with using it in a car system?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Like a caveman, I just plug in and use my phone to control it!

    At home I do use an amp thay supports direct play, there's a few companies that support Qobuz in thay way - and self hosted options too. To make use of the fidelity.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I'm glad I avoided the spotify bug ever since I saw it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I haven’t used Spotify, until recently, since it was first released. Its big value over Pandora was that it let you choose what to listen to…when did that change?

    I’m using spotx on Linux so I don’t get ads, can search individual songs, etc. I thought the free tier was just ad supported, I didn’t realize that they didn’t let you pick what you wanted to listen to.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    only premium subscribers could pick individual tracks previously

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    What a ripoff.

    Oh, there's a Spotx for Windows too. There ya go, anybody using Spotify free who doesn't want to buy into the tiering enshittification go patch your Spotify client. No ads, pick your own tracks, like Spotify used to be when it was a new and a good value for the service.

    I'm just too lazy to find a music private tracker and setup Lidarr, I'll do that eventually and then just stream through Jellyfin like one of the cool kids.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The desktop application (both Windows and Linux) allows free users to pick tracks. The mobile application does not.

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    I dropped my Spotify account after last price hike.

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