Shade of idiot Jack Thompson with brain worm here.

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[–] 168 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 125 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    this is so obviously false it's enfuriating coming from the head of HHS. Lots of coutnries all over the world have the same violent video games we do without the mass shootings.

    “Switzerland has a comparable number of guns as we do, and the last mass shooting they had was 23 years ago,” said Kennedy, 71. “We have a mass shooting every 23 hours.”

    “There are many things that happened in the 1990’s that could explain these,” he added. “One is the dependence on psychiatric drugs... there could be connections with video games and social media.”

    okaaaaaaay... follow that train of thought just a liiiiiitle bit further bobby. Do you think Switzerland is stuck in the 80s or something?

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  • [–] 117 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Oh wow, we're really hitting all the classics.

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  • [–] [S] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    We're almost back to blaming violence on D&D. Exciting times.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Tipper Gore just got a tingling sensation in her naughty bits.

    *If you saw the pre edit you're welcome.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago

    Are we really restarting this conversation for the FUCKING millionth time???

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Crime in the US peaked in 1993... when Doom first came out. Then it started dropping until recently.

    Conclusion: violent video games cause a drop in crime.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    But it peaked the same year Doom came out. Obviously Doom was the cause of the peak!

    I should add, that as less people played Doom, violent crime reduced.

    Tap for spoilerOk no the double down will woosh someone, here's your /s

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You mean the same dumbass that blames an ingredient that hasn't been in vaccines in over 20 years for Autism, an ingredient that has never been shown to cause autism in the first place? Does anyone actually take this jackass seriously?

    Bobby Kennedy must be rolling over in his grave.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well he's right.

    Until the invention of video games no one ever killed anyone ever. Then pong came along, and it was mass murder every other day.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    i blame mass shootings for video games

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Charlie Kirk would like to have a word. Go ahead Charlie, Charlie? CHARLIE NO!!!!

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Ooh, so original. Going back to those age old talking points eh. So fresh, so new. Why does anyone listen to these wind bags?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I played a lot of Pac-Man and now I'm munching for pills in dark rooms while listening to repetitive music. It's true, I love techno parties. Joke, I barily ever played Pac-Man.

    I also played a lot of age of empires. Now I annoy everyone with "whololoooo" all the time. Joke, no I don't.

    Tap for spoilerWhololooooo

    It probably has nothing to do with widely available guns.

    Here in NL we don't have that, but we do have loads of mass shootings. Oh wait, no we don't. But we don't have violent video games. Oh wait, yes we do.

    Tap for spoilerWhololooooo

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    For some reason I want to subscribe to your newsletter

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Hear me out...James Tiberius Kirk was supposed to be a descendant of Charles Aswipe Kirk. Slowly these photos will fade away and be replaced by photos of Christopher Pike.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Jesus K Rist he is stupid.

    Better loosen gun laws some more, that'll fix it.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Battlefield and CoD are responsible for war?

    Oh jeez, I glad they didn't have video games in 1914, otherwise they might have killed a bunch of people!

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    RFK Jr do better...Tylenol killed 7 people in the 90s, Kirk was obviously killed by Tylenol.

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There was one helluva gamer in Utah today.

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  • [+] 35 points 1 year ago (12 children)
  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's called the 'Gish Gallop.'

    The best way for the Right to defeat the Left in an argument is to unload a torrent of lies, half truths, complete nonsense, and other disinformation. The idea is to overwhelm the other side's ability to form a coherent response, because there's too much to unpack.

    Trump knows Kennedy is an idiot, but he's a useful idiot in that he forces the Left to deal with him.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Who the fuck is downvoting this comment? Genuinely why? Is this some pro-trump instance or something? Like wtf I don’t understand what I said wrong…

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    is the news supposed to NOT cover what the government is doing?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Trump listens to Fox News on the daily. He takes advice and opinions from Fox News. Fox News influences his stances and direction.

    In this way, Fox News is even more powerful than Trump himself. Because Fox News influences like half the country, but also influences Trumps future actions.

    So it's not that Fox News covers the news. The issue is that Fox News creates news.

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    [+] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    It's straight disinformation. Nevermind that everyone else plays the same games, let's cherry pick the one western nation that has a comparable number of guns per capita and not think about that any further.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    we have the most gun violence

    If we look at "intentional homicide rate" (choice of weapon agnostic), the US is 66th and just above Greenland. I think this statistic is better than "gun deaths" since it excludes suicides and accidental deaths and looks at intentional murder.

    The number is way higher than it should be, but probably way better than most assume given the news.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    why should we exclude suicides and accidents?

    also Greenland isn't a very reliable comparison statistically since their grand total of intentional murders in 2024 was 3. Canada is ranked 111 with a rate less than half of US. UK is ranked 142 with a rate less than a quarter of the US.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Because those are separate problems with separate solutions.

    If people use guns to kill themselves, will they stop killing themselves if we take the guns away? Maybe some will, if the alternatives take so much more time, but the impact won't be massive. Instead of making suicide harder, we should be treating the root cause of suicide, which is desperation (i.e. have a decent social safety net) and depression (make mental health resources widely available).

    If people get hurt due to gun accidents, I highly doubt they'd be happy if we took their guns away, since that's like solving traffic deaths by banning cars. The better solution is to improve safety features on guns and teach people gun safety so they can use them safely, or in the car example, we should be improving road design and driving education (and making cars less necessary, but that's a separate point).

    Suicides and gun accidents are certainly interesting statistics, but mixing them with homicides just makes it harder to see what's going on and arrive at effective solutions.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    If people use guns to kill themselves, will they stop killing themselves if we take the guns away? Maybe some will, if the alternatives take so much more time, but the impact won't be massive.

    Generally yes, Suicide tends to be a spur of the moment decision to go through with it and having immediate access to a very easy, very lethal method increases the rate significantly. There have been numerous studies that show that putting up barriers at bridges etc that are commonly jumped from dreastically reduces the suicide rate from them without raising it elsewhere e.g.

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  • Sure, and sensible things like barriers at bridges makes a ton of sense because doing that doesn't negatively impact anyone and merely gives people more time to rethink their choice.

    That said, even with those safeguards, tons of people kill themselves. I had a friend do it by hanging, others use drugs, and some use cops.

    If we look at statistics, the US has 15.6 suicides per 100k, compared to 18.4 in Belgium, 12.9 in Germany, and 16.6 in France (not trying to cherry pick here, please look up the stats yourself). Each of those countries has (largely) banned guns, yet the US's numbers aren't all that different, so surely guns aren't a major contributor here.

    What we need is to address the core issues here, such as access to mental health resources, more social interaction, etc. Banning guns isn't going to meaningfully impact suicide, it'll just shift the statistics to other methods and maybe delay it a bit. People like easy solutions, and treating the symptoms is very attractive, but it's not a real solution.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Instead of making suicide harder, we should be treating the root cause of suicide

    Or… both?

    If people get hurt due to gun accidents, I highly doubt they'd be happy if we took their guns away, since that's like solving traffic deaths by banning cars.

    it’s not even remotely the same thing since cars’ primary purpose is not killing. Also there's a very wide middle ground of options between "do nothing" and "take all guns away". This is not a binarry issue.

    Suicides and gun accidents are certainly interesting statistics, but mixing them with homicides just makes it harder to see what's going on and arrive at effective solutions.

    it doesn’t really. what does make it harder to arrive at effective solutions is making any excuse possible to avoid gun control.

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  • there’s a very wide middle ground of options between “do nothing” and “take all guns away”. This is not a binarry issue.

    Sure.

    However, most of the gun-related "solutions" I've seen wouldn't actually solve anything, or there's very little supporting evidence that they're actually effective (see this Twitter post by the RAND Corporation, media bias for RAND Corporation).

    When it comes to suicide prevention, the most effective solution I've seen presented and implemented are red flag laws, yet suicide and mass shooting rates don't seem particularly impacted by that. It turns out people are really bad at taking advantage of those laws, and there's always the risk that innocent people get hit as well.

    We already have laws in place in most (all?) of the country that, if actually followed, would prevent a lot of these cases (not suicide, but access to guns). You already can't own guns if you have a felony, if you're on certain medications, or have a history of mental illness. The problem is that many people don't actually get officially evaluated for mental health, don't report medications, etc, so the laws end up missing the very people they're intended to prevent from getting guns.

    And then when we look at suicide statistics, the US isn't all that different from European countries at 15.6 per 100k, France at 16.6, Germany at 12.9, and Belgium at 18.4 (IIRC, guns are largely banned in those countries). The US is higher than its neighbors (i.e. Canada has 9.4, and Mexico has 7), but I don't think that's a smoking gun here since Europe also has a wide range (UK is 9.5 and Spain is 8.7). Guns existing doesn't seem like a major factor in suicide rates, it just happens to be the most convenient method so it gets used the most. If guns were effectively restricted from suicidal people, the biggest change we'd likely see would be shifting from firearms to other methods of suicide, not a significant drop in overall suicide rates (though maybe an initial drop due to delayed suicides).

    Real solutions here are hard, and banning guns is comparatively easy, but I really don't think it would actually solve the problem.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Jack Thompson

    For those who don't remember this guy, he was pretty obnoxious.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(activist)

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    RFK Jr. Blames violent video games for Mass Shootings.

    I agree. Those who miss out on playing violent video games, end up resorting to real life violence later.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Didn't work last time, won't work this time

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    It actually galvanized people against the movement and made a younger generation more politically aware, including many probably seeing (voluntarily even) their first testimony to congress as they flipped over from MTV to CSPAN to watch some of their favorite rockers.

    So yeah good call GOP

    They are really in the shitter with ideas, they have a lot of levers right now, but they are truly staggering under their own weight. Their coalition isn't going to last forever.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What's old is new again...

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Been playing bloodborne all week. I still have no desire to go out with two wagon wheels assembled together with some kind of cog mechanism to toss it over my shoulder and slam it into dogs that are too aggressive for my tastes.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Remember when Coloumbine happened and politicians started blaming DOOM (a several year old game at that point) and Quake? Hell didn't they also try to blame the Matrix simply because the shooters were wearing trench coats? meanwhile the film came out like what? one or two weeks before the shootings?

    Politicians just LOVE their scapegoats.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Games don't cause mass shootings.

    Conservatives(policies) do.

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    Even if you've never heard of video games, you can tell this is total bullshit by the fact that RFK jr is saying it.

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    Remember when Mortal Kombat came out and we all started ripping each other's heads off and pulling out still beating hearts? Those were the days.

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