My wife continued to use Windows for her work because many of her clients are locked into the MS ecosystem. A few weeks ago a Windows update decided to corrupt her SSD and now she has finally joined me in Linux land. Good job Microsoft!
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"Replacing software engineers with AI is really gonna pay off... some day... we guess..."
This is a smart move by Microsoft, as a struggling small company they can use VC money to keep them afloat until they come out on top of the AI game once the technology reaches fruition, This wouldn't work for some big monolithic company like linux.
And that's why, as Windows 10 is about to expire, I am switching to Linux
I switched to Linux Mint (Cinamon) two weeks ago and I'm surprised how easy it was, and now wonder why I didn't do it earlier. So far I have been super satisfied!
Linux Mint Cinnamon is awesome. I'm a developer for embedded linux systems and I run the current version of Mint on all my machines, even at work. Having a user friendly experience out of the box doesn't make it not Linux/FOSS.
And if the ease of installation surprised you, just wait until you see what system updates are like compared with windows!
I updated two of my systems to Linux Mint 22.2 yesterday and the entire install process runs in the background in about 90 seconds without disrupting what you're doing (I was in a meeting while I let it install). Then you reboot whenever convenient and that's less than another minute.
Reads like an ad, but I support this motion
I think it's more that I'm a person trying to give an honest recommendation to help a fellow human being, and it is the ADS that try to be like ME! :D
But you're right. My strategic placement of exclamation points make it read like an infomercial script. Remember the meme about using occasional exclamation point in work emails to seem not insane!
I'm using Cinnamon and so's my wife!
My son is too, he just doesn't know it yet. ;)
The PC is in another room but the desk for it isn't in place yet. And he knows it exists. He's just in third grade and is not quite an Operating System Snob just yet.
I'm gonna do the same in october. Though I'm really dreading it, even though I know it will be fine and already use Mint on two other computers.
Outlook has spent the last 2 weeks freezing on me constantly, and Excel freezes with it. Absolutely painful, seriously thinking of jumping to Linux this year, with MSoft ending support for W10.
I mean, you can't really blame this one on AI outlook has been crap for decades.
But it has been miles better than gmail for decades.
Join us! I switched to Mint about 8 months back and I have noticeably fewer regular issues than when I was on Windows.
My windows install started bluescreening a couple days ago and won't boot, might be this exact issue lmao, anyways, I got linux and neither the energy nor time to deal with microsoft's bullshit, I'm tempted to wipe that garbage off my disk for good
I fully switched to Linux this year: it's nice not having to worry about what Microsoft is up to.
It sucks that Windows has gotten so bad
It is driving the world into the loving arms of Linux, our Lord and Savior, so I think it’s marvelous that Windows has gotten so bad.
Except for people who are less tech savvy and don't have a desire to tinker. Windows has been the standard for so long that many people don't have knowledge outside of the Microsoft ecosystem. Linux is best for those who want to dig into computers.
Desktop computers are the one and only one space where Linux doesn't utterly dominate as the kernel of choice. Supercomputers, servers, embedded devices, basically all Linux. In the mobile space, Apple and Android are a duopoly, Microsoft repeatedly tried and failed to enter that market. Microsoft managed to secure a de facto monopoly on the desktop, kept Macintosh like a pet to ward off actual monopoly lawsuits, and has spent the last 20 years just making their product worse for the user in order to wring another pint of blood out of the same moldy old turnip.
It's gotten wayyyy better in that regard though. It's more a matter of what people are used to and being resistant to change, than a lack of tech savvy-ness.
I think it has a target audience that doesn't include everyone. It is primarily for those who want to be in control of there computing.
It is primarily for those who want to be in control of there computing.
Which becomes more and more weighty by the day, even for casual users. For example, Bitlocker being enabled by default is a data destroying time-bomb waiting to explode (and causes a lot of slowness).
In my case, I had to switch to Linux earlier this year due to strange issues with bluetooth audio cutting out when my monitors went to sleep (not my computer) and game stuttering/poor performance on Windows. Issues fixed immediately on Linux, without tinkering.
Regardless, there is an important distinction between enthusiast distributions and beginner distributions, the latter of which are 100% viable even for grandma and grandpa to use and maintain.
Linux gets many bonus points for security, which Windows 11 lacks wholly for regular users - there aren't even proper guards against applications getting admin access. Microsoft refuses to patch known UAC bypasses, of which there are many that can be found publicly on GitHub.
Their excuse? UAC is not intended to be a security barrier. Many malicious applications have instructions to bypass Windows Defender that users may follow, and getting your binaries signed is fairly easy with e.g. leaked certs (which take time to be revoked due to Microsoft's enterprise considerations and business model) - potentially avoiding Windows Defender completely and likely UAC as well (...and also fooling a very careful eye).
The problem is that the Windows monopoly isn't worth having any more and Microsoft is flailing in trying to make it worth it.
Microsoft can't force an app store like Apple and Google can for iOS and Android. No one is going to buy an OS subscription like they do for Office 365. And, I'm sure that Microsoft earns almost nothing on new installs because of how cheap hardware has gotten.
Eh. I feel like desktops are going to go the way of Steam Decks and Chromebooks for consumers. While Microsoft can't force an app store, other companies/OS's can.
For corporate users, I can see a corporate Windows/Office tech stack form, with corporations paying for support per user like current companies pay for Windows & Office 365.
Fuck windows. I got fed up of their constant monitoring. I am glad to be rid of it. They still have a lot of my data, sadly, but nothing spicy, and given their incompetence they will probably lose it all by the time any buyer wants it.
.... always was.
Not really
It got a lot of people excited about computers back when the customer was the user
Yeah—misfortunate, but that's expected; I'm happy it's pushing people towards FOSS OS like Linux. The more people get ahead and switch over the better. Implementation of FOSS from corporate is a hurdle, always favoring myopic efficiency 🫤
I literally fixed a laptop for a family member, and thought I'd put Windows 11 on it because they may like the shiny new thing.
Articles like this are making me revert them to Windows 10 (IoT LTSC).
The articles for windows 10 aren't going to be great either once the security updates stop
Edit I can't read you're using the longer supported version
are you seriously questioning reinstalling a whole OS based on a shitpost?
I wiped windows from my system for Linux instead of updating to this crap
good job but this place is like a nerd kingdom, unlikely to find any microsoft defenders around here to argue with you
The elements within the meme are real issues, so yes? I mentioned articles.
The elements within the meme are real issues
nope?
https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-no-windows-11-update-did-not-break-your-ssd/
It is clear that the problem is far from being resolved, and we will hear more updates on it. Meanwhile, if you have already installed the August 2025 update, it is recommended to take it easy with your drive and avoid heavy files. If you have not installed the update yet, you can pause Windows Update and wait for Microsoft to release more information on the issue.
This is a direct quote from the article you linked. I am not on windows, but it is difficult for me to intrrpret this as you seem to: that there are no issues.
So .. what are you trying to get to herw?
I went into linux mint. I am certain, CERTAIN, that a windows 10 update probably caused a fundamental HD failure on my old computer. I have hard drives much older and more used than the one I had, yet that HD, which was the main HD I had started to fail. It gave enough life for me to back it up into a massive 14TB backup drive (I keep that one unplugged when not in use) so I didn't lose any data.
But HD failures are rare for me. I am fucking glad I was able to save the data. I need to put that drive to some old fashion electronic recycling.
I first used an early gen/model ssd on linux, it promptly died due to constant log writes. oops.
then I used platter until nvme came out.
then I 'needed' (forced to use specific config) windows for work so I set up a second computer.
from then to now I've had 4 ssd and 1 platter death under windows and nothing with linux even constantly distrohopping on the linux drive. not including the shared usb drives at least.
I switched to Linux Mint saldy I need Windows for some things so I dual booted. Got sick of that, so now I have a VM with Tiny11.
Never tried it myself, but looks promising, you should try it on your dual boot. https://github.com/TibixDev/winboat
FUCK that better not be what happened to my computer.
I tried to rollback this update and either somehow did something incredibly wrong, or windows decided to bug out. It slowed the PC horribly, and I had to reinstall windows 11. Such a pain
AI bad true, but there's no evidence this update did anything bad and ssd/hdd manufacturers and Microsoft have all come out after testing and said as much.
Negative placebo and gossip. Drives fail all the time, people (and media/youtubers for clickbait) see the headlines and blame the update.
People witch hunting Phison too.
Isn’t it funny how news bias bubbles work? The articles about the update causing SSD failures were everywhere on Lemmy. But after thousands of hours of testing from Microsoft, Phison, and various journalism outlets, the issue isn’t replicable. But I haven’t seen that reported on here at all because it doesn’t make Microsoft look bad.
Microsoft is plenty bad, we don’t need to massage data to make them seem even worse.
(To be fair I wasn’t on Lemmy much this weekend, it’s possible I just missed this.)
Lemmy loves Linux and rightly so, but it hates Windows even more.
Example, this is a no-subject memes community, and you'll find plenty of anti-Windows stuff here. And the actual linuxmemes community sometimes feels like it could be renamed to hatewindowsmemes.
Not surprising, the same way /r/atheism was, for a while at least, more like /r/antichristianity. Part of the identity is opposition to “the enemy.”
Personally I think that part of the identity is unhelpful, and focus is better put on the identity being about what makes it the better choice. Like Dems losing in 2016 and 2024 because a good chunk of their messaging was “look how bad Trump is,” which only served to broadcast Trump even more.
(That’s not to say that complaints aren’t valid, it’s just a poor way to structure an identity.)
JayzTwoCents:
I love jay as a creator but he gets things wrong on occasion. Example: he recently made a video suggesting that everyone running nvidia on windows use software to force rebar on globally, which is KNOWN to break games or cause performance issues (which is why it isn't enabled globally in the first place.) At the end of the day he is still a creator driven by the algorithm and metrics for his livelihood so you gotta take what he says with a grain of salt.
which journalism outlets though? if there are vested interests I don't trust like that. Obviously microsoft and phison are going to deny responsibility. so did intel when their 13th and 14th gen CPUs were suiciding.
I heard too many stories about people’s hard drives failing after the update for the news to be false. As far as I know, the issue isn’t easily reproducible though.
I didn't think a lot of drives were actually permanently borked, were they?
I'll pitch in my anecdote: I updated to Windows 11 3878, everything was fine. Downloaded Helldivers onto my gaming drive overnight, and woke up in the morning seeing that the SSD was not being detected (WD Black NVME, no heatsink). Pulled it out, put it in another PC, saw that it was being detected, so I rolled back the Windows update because that's the only other thing that had changed. Drive works fine again.
SOMETHING definitely happened, but I think it's waaaaaaay over-reported tbh.
Oh the irony of sitting back on Win 10 being what saves people from the issue.
We should keep in mind that thousands of people work at large corporations like Microsoft and many of them do not agree with company policy and positions, including people in senior roles.
Scott Hanselman is a VP at Microsoft who has given some of the best presentations on AI from a social, ethical, and technical demonstration standpoint that I have seen. I have been spreading his NDC London talk around to everyone I can: https://youtu.be/kYUicaho5k8
It is worth the watch.
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