Elon is not the founder of Tesla. He sued the actual founders to bury that fact.
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Gives musk too much credit
Way too much. FAR from founder, fucking Nepo baby that acts like we're all shitty because we weren't born with a silver butt plug.
Pretty sure it was a blood-diamond butt plug.
Many are still stuck in the snake oil he manufactures as his main source of income. China socials particularly because of the information gap. Keep making his image in the mind of the people harder to believe, just ask thunderfoot, it's working
Visionary Asshole Founder
And Jobs
Woz was also a founder.
Elon didn't found shit
Elon to my knowledge hasn't been the founder of a single project he's been part of. He's bought everything.
Yep, he's your typical parasitic orbiting-usurper, buzzing around people of talent until the opportunity presents itself for him to steal all their work while they're busy making the future happen.
Steve Jobs was exactly the same. Wozniak made the Apple 1 a reality and before that, he used Wozniak's discarded Pong PCBs to get a job at Atari. At Atari he was just a talentless socially domineering psychopath doing shakedown on the company's nerd for his lunch money.
When assigned a task to create a cost-optimized version of the game Breakout, were he was offered 100$ for each TTL chip he could optimize out of the design. So he went to his "friend" Wozniak, who managed to remove 50 chips from the design. Steve Jobs made 5000$ (in 1976 money) and he "let" Wozniak have 375$ of this. All jobs did is the menial work of etching the PCBs sketched by Wozniak and solder some of them.
Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are truely despicable pieces of shit and I say as a society, and for the good of everyone, we should use the dystopian surveillance capitalism to find all people like them and box them right out so we don't have to suffer such parasitic psychopaths.
Unlike Elon, I feel like Steve Jobs legitimately had skills. Of course, it's completely despicable of him to scoop more than 10x the profit compared to Woz in that example. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Jobs was a talented asshole, but Elon is just a no-talent asshole.
I think it safe to assume Steve Jobs simply stole absolutely everything else he got credit for. As a powerful person in the organization, other people simply came up to him with their ideas hoping he would bestow on them rewards and he just stole their shit and then made them silent about it. This is how it works in nearly all corporation, whoever has power just legally steals everyone's work and crushes anyone that complains about it. I filed a patent where I work and I didn't even get a full week's pay for it. Not even a paid vacation either, just a simple bonus, my request for unpaid time off was also denied.
It's completely despicable for any person in a company to be making 10x compared to the janitor.
I think if you watch this 2009 video, Elon has visionary plans, but fame and money made his ego push the ideals out of his head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktkV0N0Oask
The thing is, literally anyone working in the industry had visionary ideas at that time. The best of which were completely destroyed by people like Musk, Gates, and others that forced a profit model on an internet with unlimited potential.
The most frustrating thing about the net is how much it has become owned by private companies. Our entire model of digital sales is built on a fake idea of scarcity on a technology that entirely removes the scarcity of resources that capitalism requires.
People like him succeeded not because they had visionary or ground breaking ideas. They succeeded because they offered monetization models that could capture digital infrastructure and restrict its potential in order for their investor's to profit.
Edit: if this rant interests you you'd enjoy this documentary.
His initial lottery ticket of a business Zip2 I think he was fairly a founder.
I know next to nothing about it because no one ever heard of it before Compaq had a huge case of dot-com FOMO and paid $300 million for it, where it promptly went nowhere like it already was.
Who founded SpaceX, then?
Ohh, so like he's the Tommy Tallarico of tech
Isn't he the founder of SpaceX?
I think you're right about everything else though.
Same with Jobs on the "visionary" part -- the only thing that guy ever visualized was bigger stacks of money.
I think Jobs had his issues, but I do have to consider it fair for folks to claim him to be a visionary.
There was a presentation back in '97 where someone a bilt salty about Apple abandoning OpenDoc for Java and Jobs had a pretty solid response with insight.
Not so sure about post-iPod Jobs, but once upon a time he certainly seemed a respectable business leader with good product focus.
In fairness to Jobs, he may have been an arsehole, but he was also an incredible salesman who knew what his customers wanted.
I'm old enough to remember how genuinely captivating his product presentations could be. The shit that Apple pre-records these days is worthless by comparison.
Sure, he was a good salesman, but any perception that he was the idea man was a deliberately cultivated lie. Woz had all the actually good ideas early on, then later it was other engineers.
I always thought the "ideas" he got credit for were in domains like design and customer experience, not necessarily technical engineering.
That's at least among people that know some minimal information about him. I imagine that the huge numbers of normie folks who don't pay attention to phones unless they're buying one either don't know who he is or would just fall back to assuming the superficial public visionary genius image is accurate.
But that's how our culture and media are designed to condition regular folks to accept our leaders as our betters. I mean who cares if some dark triad personality motherfucker is a monster to their own family just as much as their employees as long as the make money and create success*!
- success = money
It isn't enough to have good ideas if you can't persuade someone to buy them.
A) I don't agree, and B) that's not really relevant or incompatible with what I said.
That only makes sense if you assume the only purpose of ideas is to turn them into profit.
Many of my great ideas COST me money, but I still end up better off afterwards.
Musk bought it not founded it. There needs to be a whole nother column
Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning are the founders.
Instead of having them as the face of American EV innovation, we have some guy who's talent is being born with money and then getting lucky in a business venture.
There's hundreds or thousands of these companies which were founded by innovative and creative people that were bought out and absorbed into some giant corporation so that it doesn't ever have to compete with anybody.
Pretty sure Elmo isn't one of the founders of Tesla. And calling him a visionary is pushing it.
I mean, I don't doubt that he sometimes has visions with all the ketamine he takes.
Oh, but Elon is a founder, he paid enough to retcon himself as such, so he is.
Can't argue him being a 'visionary' though, unless you count ambitions that are vague enough so they are not actually actionable and obvious enough that pretty much any random person would be predicting the same thing.
All we've got to do is forget how it went down and ask Grok to tell us instead...
Until 2015 or so he did look good. Whenever the divers debacle was.
I would have figured the three Linuses would have been like:
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Enthusiastic loud mouthed young Linus arguing with Tannenbaum.
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Aggressive Linus with no filter at all slapping maintainers upside the head.
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Aggressive Elder Linus with a personal insult filter applied still slapping maintainers upside the head.
Replace "Visionary" with "Infamous" and musk photo with that one goth photo that he was trying to hide.
I came here to point out that Musk didn't found Tesla, but I see that this is basically the entire topic of the comnents section π
You all donβt know what youβre talking about. Elon absolutely is a visionary. Who else could come up with the new Tesla Roadster with rocket thruster package (source)? Now, actually brining that vision to market, yeah Elon might not be your guy. Now that I think about it, his visions are more like delusions. Maybe letβs call him a delusionary.
Also gonna put this here if you would like to read more of his delusions. https://elonmusk.today/
Lost Stallman...
To be fair, none of this would have happened without Stallman, and I understand the criticism. But let's remember, there are things that he did that were very positive for computing. If it weren't for Stallman it is doubtful that we would have a free operating system to this day.
I see it the same way you might give a loved one an occasional ribbing for something they have an ongoing hangup about, or even once yelled about several years ago.
It sucks for him and his recognition that "Linux" is such a good name that people use it for the entire OS. But the dude is basically still a hero. Anybody who helped really get the FOSS/GNU/Linux movement going is. We have a huge amount of the tech world that runs so well on free and open software, plus it's well beyond the critical mass where it isn't going anywhere and will be an option permanently (barring some event that also, you know, ends civilization).
There is a quote from a TV programme called "firefly" which I like.
"It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of a son of a bitch or another. Ain't about you. It's about what they need."
Quite fitting, wouldn't you say?
The criticism is pretty ridiculous. I canβt stand Stallmanβs prescriptivist takes on language, but he was and is always right about the naming. I remember the people who insisted that itβs because the kernel was the most important part immediately called it Android and not Linux, then made a bunch of excuses.
Just be honest and donβt hide behind βI donβt use GNU so there!β kind of obnoxious stupidity. We say Linux because it stuck, not because the kernel is more important. Saying GNU or GNU/Linux or whatever was always a reasonable request that people rejected because they were either just too used to Linux or were actively worthless scumbag dumbfucks.
If Stallman had his way, the entire Linux ecosystem would be in the same state as GNU Hurd. His vision, work, and activism in the days of Unix was a massive benefit to free software at large, probably forever. Now he thinks Debian isn't free enough because it offers an optional nonfree repository.
This is quite possibly the stupidest thing Iβve ever seen on Stallman and Linux lmao
Shouldn't the last Linux image be, like, a crowd of FOSS developers?
Also, the second image should be a penguin in a tuxedo.
Well von holzhausen is American born, raised and educated. https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Holzhausen Also Elmo didn't found shit.
Oh my God is Linux pronounced Line-ux?
On the chance this isn't a joke, no it isn't, Linus has said so himself
Apparently, Linus' name is pronounced like how people normally pronounce Linux, according to his Wikipedia page.
That's how I used to say it decades ago when it was one of those "I have only ever read it" words.
It's probably because I knew the name Linus from Peanuts / Charlie Brown, and in that they pronounce it "Lie-nuss." So back then I said "Lie-nux." When I first heard it as "Linn-nix" it sounded not just wrong but less cool.
But between having watched videos of Torvalds speak, and knowing a handful of Finland's neighbors (Swedes) the correct pronunciation of "Linn-nix" is the only way I even think of it in my head now.

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