I have, and on a related note, I also think of guillotines.

It's so gross. People are always praising them for being so cheap, when it's quite literally just sugar water that tastes like is was bottled 10 years ago

Not to mention any part of the factory automation technology. Capacitors on the circuit board are made in Japan if they’re decent, motor windings from China, solenoids , the lot.

The US imports lots of Aluminium and refines it into Aluminum

And most US sugar is foreign sourced.

Guys...

The product is called Arizona Iced TEA. The main ingredient is.... drumroll brewed tea.

How many tea-farms do you know of in the US? There are some small-scale ones, but only one large-scale one at 127 acres.

India has over 800 major estates and ~60,000 small tea gardens across the country

I don't exempt a company from doing something if their supplier does it. They're at least complicit.

If the companies were responsible with all that recycling we've been doing over the last half-century, they wouldn't need to import raw metal. We'd be able to reuse all that glass and metal.

I guess this might be the only way to get American consumers to understand that the point was always Reduce, reuse, and recycle in descending importance; rather than the other way around.

All that honeybee suffering...

I'm not an expert on artificial sweeteners, but as far as I know, they're to be consumed in moderate amounts just like sugars are. And from what I've heard, stevia is among the better sweeteners compared to something like aspartame or maybe even sucralose. The mixing of sugar and a sweetener is not ideal, I think that's true.

I'll gladly be proven otherwise - don't know enough about them tbh

Don't worry, they'll be just as hypocritical as any other virtue-signaling group. Bees make honey, honey bad. But they'll act like pollenators aren't needed for crops or something. Or ignore that beekeepers will take their hives out to farms to pollinate various crops, like avocado. Or that bees seem to, on some level, understand that they have a great deal going. They're not trapped in the hives; they could leave at anytime but don't. And their honey production is higher than that of wild bees. And they have a higher survival rate because the beekeeper ensures they're safe from predators, or from the elements, and from disease. Every beekeeper I've ever seen absolutely love their bees.

But the fun part, is not all vegans think like this. Because it's a "contentious" topic among them. For one, why does anyone care what anyone eats? Like, as long as it's not cannibalism, I don't give a shit. But vegans, from what I gather, will "rank" themselves to other vegans to see who's more vegan than the other. It really reminds me of the "church ladies". The type who judge you for not being churchy enough, who brag about how much church they go to, how much they "do for the church", a "higher than thou" mentality. Some vegans are closer to vegetarians, with just additional restrictions. So just like any group, it's not all... it's just a really loud minority that tries to speak for everyone.

Why are you so aggressive in asking something? Do you expect people to help you like that?

Honeybees destroy ecosystems because they're more efficient at pollination than wild bees are, so there's an ecological nuance to abstaining from honey. Apart from that, there's the ethical component of taking away food that the bees produce for themselves that's not ours for the taking.

God forbid someone have empathy for living creatures.

These fucking vegans care for insects now? That makes me so mad.