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Anon updates GNU/linux (lemmy.world)
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[–] 299 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Fake: anon used bigfuckinmistake.exe instead of bigfuckinmistake.sh

Ace: No mention of sex because sex is for sheeple

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  • [–] 103 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Sex probably isn't even FOSS

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    I wonder why people want 'privacy' when having sex, and how it's always 'censored' on TV

    Absolutely Proprietary!

    Probably filled with keyloggers too

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    don't even start on the possibility of getting viruses

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I couldn’t find an found the Archive.org archive of the page from Nullsoft’s website, but this page on some-random-website-I-am-not-sure-about-in-any-way and it has the page saved for sex.exe and its source code which is indeed FOSS:
    https://www.1014.org/code/nullsoft/sex/

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nullsoft.com/free/sex/

    Copyright (C) 1998-2000 Nullsoft, Inc.

    This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied warranty. In no event will the authors be held liable for any damages arising from the use of this software.

    Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose, including commercial applications, and to alter it and redistribute it freely.

    Edit: And the updated version, SafeSex:
    https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nullsoft.com/free/safesex/
    but I don’t see the source code on this page.

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    • [–] 123 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Linux is a gateway drug. Habitual use can lead to harder OSes, which are also Linux.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    Linux is just a gateway drug to TempleOS

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    "druh"... Cringe. We're not on TikTok. You can speak like a human being here. You're not monetizing your comments.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've fat fingered and my autocorrect did not register it because it is valid Czech word.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sorry. I genuinely thought you were following this modern social media ad friendly vernacular stuff...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Nah, check my comment history and you'll probably find several instances of me calling this shit out. Usually it is just a downvote for the post, though.

    All good mate, I've got a new keyboard and not uses to the layout yet.

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    • [–] 86 points 1 year ago (39 children)

    Oh please Christ tell me that kids these days aren't that dumb when it comes to computers.

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  • [–] 122 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Computer literacy is definitely down in gen z and alpha.

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    IMO around 2006 is when you see the decline. It's the delineation between kids who started with computers, and kids that started with phones or tablets.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is why my kids get to use the PC in the living room. Wireless keyboard and mouse, gcompris from boot until they are a bit older.

    Though I am thinking of moving it all onto the htpc so its JF, emulators, gcompris, etc, but I haven't decided how I want to do that yet. I was thinking of doing NFC for login, but my youngest is creative and would figure out he could grab mom's phone to get game access.

    TBD. And a huge digression.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    I had a computer class that was fairly self guided, do projects and tell the facilitator how it's good for community or whatever. All I would do when she walked by is go to hackertyper and tell her I was coding.

    So yes.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    Oh, they def are. Most people under ~20 only use touch screen devices. In school, they have apps for building documents and power points, so they can just do those in their phone or a tablet.

    I'm watching it in my high school aged niece: she barely knows how to type on a real keyboard, let alone how to access a command line, and even less so what can be accomplished through it.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Developers are that dumb when it comes to computers. Actual fucking developers.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    in our area was some kind of job orientation school (or more the advertisement to spend 3 years in the main part).
    one of the people (probably 18-15) that wanted to look at programming or system integration (its combined) said that the teacher had a magic finger because that finger managed to turn on the pc

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    the teacher had a magic finger because that finger managed to turn on the pc

    That might have been a joke that made sense if you haven't seen the PC. When I was in high school, someone ripped out the power button which also used to have power LED in it, so there were just 4 mystery wires sticking out.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fucking backend developers who can't even git commit without their fucking IDE handling it for them.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It's so much easier to see diffs/merges with gui tools. 90% of the operations can be handled easily in the UI.

    I only need to use the command line and use the docs when I do something complicated (I still screwed something up).

    I do understand it's there though, I'm not sure using it for the basic stuff would help me with the complicated stuff.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Because most of the time, the complicated stuff is just a few simple commands chained together.

    99.9% of the time, git is easy. You don't need to do everything on the command line, especially when dealing with diffs and merge conflicts. But in my experience most devs who flat out refuse to use it don't understand most of the basic concepts because it's all hidden behind a layer of abstraction. That's why when I teach the basic concepts, it's command line only. At least you know what that big Squash&Merge button does and why you should never click on the big Rebase button on main/master.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Yes. They are.

    Everything is magic to them the way it was to the boomers. Open the box, plug it in, it works, hope nothing unusual happens along the way.

    Of course there are plenty who know more, but I’ve got kids and helped them build their own PCs. They still know relatively little, but their friends don’t even understand that cellphones are computers and reject the idea altogether.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    I used to tell a story about how my boss had to call me into his office to show him how to maximize a window after he accidentally changed its size. I had to do similarly basic instructions for several young news hires lately, and most don't seem to be picking it up very well.

    It's less that kids are dumb with computers - since everyone's dumb with computers when they're inexperienced - and more that they're as unwilling to learn as my grandma; I'll show them how to do something, and they'll completely forget how by the next day.

    I saw computers as an exciting new thing, but the next generation seems to think of them as outdated tech.

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  • [+] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    I think you misunderstand how good with computers anyone ever was. Back then if you didn't care to learn, you just didn't have one.

    Now you either are interested and learn it, or you just use an iPad/iPhone. I know many, many people who never used anything more complicated than an iPad.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've met young adults that don't know how to type with ten fingers, that have never touched a desktop pc and can't properly explain the differences between an OS, a browser and a search engine

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    can’t properly explain the differences between an OS, a browser and a search engine

    Which, of course, was the goal of manufacturers all along. First computer you used a lot was a Chromebook? Google is all of those things. Was it a Windows 8 or later system? They damn near are the same thanks to web search integration with the start menu that only nerds like me care about disabling.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Kids? I regularly interact with PhD students that don't know how to open a fucking ZIP archive. I've had one that thought that "SSD" was a kind of RAM, and insisted on installing Windows on a hard drive. I've had one that couldn't grasp the idea of 2FA. I've had one that only had a single copy of his dissertation and lost all of it when Bitlocker ate the disk.

    Organic intelligence is going extinct, I swear.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I'm a middle- aged millennial going through an undergraduate university course, in my first year I had to teach some of my group work partners how to move files from one folder to another in windows.

    And these are students who have chosen modules in electrical engineering, so they have more technical/ computer education than most at that age...

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I’ve had one that thought that “SSD” was a kind of RAM

    Well, could it be considered random access memory? I couldn't really find a clear answer, mostly opinions.

    Wikipedia says:

    A random-access memory device allows data items to be read or written in almost the same amount of time irrespective of the physical location of data inside the memory, in contrast with other direct-access data storage media (such as hard disks and magnetic tape), where the time required to read and write data items varies significantly depending on their physical locations on the recording medium, due to mechanical limitations such as media rotation speeds and arm movement.

    So maybe?

    Although that's basically the other end of "SSD is RAM".
    You could also install the OS to a RAMdisk.
    Gigabyte even made some physical ones in the past.

    The i-RAM was a PCI card-mounted, battery-backed RAM disk that behaved and was marketed as a solid-state storage device. It was produced by Gigabyte and released in June 2005, at a time when genuine solid-state storage solutions were generally still less affordable than an i-RAM product with superficially similar capabilities. The i-RAM utilised DRAM, a type of volatile memory, and was equipped with a lithium-ion battery to provide backup power.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Well, could it be considered random access memory?

    Not really, a bit further down in the Wiki article it says:

    RAM is normally associated with volatile types of memory where stored information is lost if power is removed.

    Which is not really the case for SSDs (except for cached data that hasn't been written yet). That said, yes you can use a SSD as RAM through pagefiles, swap partitions, or whatever, but the same is true for a HDD. So in the context of where to install an OS it's a rather irrelevant detail. SSDs are power cycle persistent storage.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    What is 'NVRAM' then?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    A special kind of RAM that is power cycle persistent but has other downsides and thus didn't really have success on the PC market?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Its not 'special kind'. Flash memory is a type of nvram. It was a test to see if you would catch on. Theres also neat things like phase change RAM, aka DVD-RAM.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Well it's special in the sense that opposed to the most common kind of RAM, DRAM and SRAM, it has non volatile storage. Which is why it's referred to as NVRAM instead of simply RAM. Saying RAM usually implies volatile storage in a PC, certainly does in the context of an OS install on a HDD and SSD, and in that context a SSD isn't RAM. Yes there are minutiae to the terminology, but I don't see how that's relevant here.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Its relevant because its primary use doesnt change how the memory is accessed. The only reason NVRAM doesnt see use as primary system ram is that they are much slower and many types have limited write cycles making them unsuitable for the job.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    In the context of setting up a PC a SSD is a drive, not RAM. You couldn't pull out your RAM DIMMs and just run on your NVME/SATA SSD as RAM instead (unless your CPU/MB support that which to my knowledge isn't common). I'm not saying that flash memory isn't random access memory in the general sense of the word, I'm saying that when talking about a PC specifically RAM refers to special memory the motherboard makes directly available to the CPU, and a SSD isn't that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Next you're going to tell me Apple Macs are not PCs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    No I'm going to tell you that is still irrelevant. The OP said:

    I’ve had one that thought that “SSD” was a kind of RAM, and insisted on installing Windows on a hard drive.

    It seems the student thought a SSD is RAM in the sense of "volatile CPU storage" and thus unfit for an OS install. And a SSD is not RAM in that sense of the word.

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    • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There’s a program at my job that has a black background and a lot of the commands are written in lines similar to cmd.

    It’s a lot more streamlined now but I use to have to do a lot in there and people would often gather behind me to see what I was doing. I guess it looked like I was hacking because I would type for about a bit and hit enter then start typing again. Literal csi hacking type shit

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    That's me all day long with Kong, having to ssh on the data planes so I can read the stupid logs and catch errors as they happen because we have a retarded setup... I often have to do it with an audience and I try to make it accessible for them, but I reckon it must remind them of Neo looking at the Matrix, when I'm browsing live logs on the command line.

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    • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    • Be me.

    • Go to school

    • Everyone else in my class counting on fingers

    • Pull out Abacus

    • Crowd immediately forms

    • "Hey guys! He's doing multi-variable calculus over here!!!"

    • Smile smugly. Don't these kids know the abacus has been around for 3000 years?

    • Teacher tells me to stop cheating. Accuses me of black magic

    • Just laugh. Calculate pi to 100 places. People running out of the room screaming and crying.

    • Sent to principle's office. Principle amazed by my technological expertise. Nominates me for Head Boy.

    • Ministry of Magic sends down delegation to investigate my new kind of wizardry

    • Correctly estimate the future national gross domestic product for the next two quarters

    • Voldemort appears and tries to steal my device

    • Perfectly calculate the circumference of his head. Voldemort banished to the shadow realm for 10,000 years.

    • Everyone cheers

    • Open the door, get on the floor. Everybody walk the dinosaur

    True story

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    • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This happened to a friend of mine in the 90s. He was checking his email with pine. The lady who ran the school computer lab called the terminal "the black program with the blinking thing."

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    • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    https://github.com/dustinkirkland/hollywood

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    • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Always keep a GUI tool for the job in case of normies.

    I just don't go outside so I can use the terminal all I want

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    • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I doubt the parents called the police on OP for hacking. Parents just get angry or ground their kids for "hacking".

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "Breaking the new computer", to paraphrase my parents.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I had a cousin, and I installed I think Linux Mint on his netbook. Few months later my uncle said that I broke the hard drive in that netbook, and I was like "Huh? That's not how any of this works".

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    • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Can't decide. Is this green text fake and gay or real because it sounds like it could happen to me?

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    While I doubt it went as far as the parents calling the police, way back when I was in high school, my friend got banned from the computers for "hacking" because he used the command prompt to control the computer instead of just the GUI.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Which is crazy because I'm sure your teachers remember the days of DOS or earlier.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The only reason we had a "computer class" was to learn how to type, and get familiarized with basic office software commonly used in universities. The lady who "taught" the class had some certification of being a "typist", whatever the fresh hell that meant. I am pretty sure most of the staff had never really used a computer before, even the younger teachers mostly only ever used them to do data entry for the school.

    The ones who seemed to know anything were the art teachers, the music teachers, and the one who really knew things was the AP math teacher, as he had been using computers for complex math stuff for a long time, and was only teaching high school part time. He knew how to code, used unix, bsd, slackware. I wish we had a class where he taught computer something. He also wanted to do that, but they told him no, they only wanted an AP math teacher. He even defended my friend, but was basically dismissed because he wasn't full time staff.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He even defended my friend, but was basically dismissed because he wasn't full time staff.

    What a nice teacher

    Many would not dare contradict their colleagues, you know the "Unified Front" strategy, like it's some war against the children.

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