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It's probably upping my number of search clicks because I want to figure out what sort of crack it was on when it came up with my answer.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    AI did not, in fact, affect the rate that I clicked on results in Google search, at least if we're talking clicks per search.

    It made me stop using Google search instead.

    Well that and the shitty results it kept giving me at the top of the page when all I wanted was the Mozilla docs on a specific CSS attribute.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well done! What is your replacement search engine go-to ?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    These days it's Kagi. Manually ranking websites (pin, raise, lower, block) is a feature I couldn't live without now.

    They still use Google's index to some extent from what I understand, but without all of Google's shitty "features" like AI overviews and sponsored entries.

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  • [+] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Just put scratching posts next to the furniture instead.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh, okay. The thing is many people who live with cats complain they scratch their furniture but give them no alternatives and then get annoyed at them for normal behaviour, so we want to stop that attitude, that's all.

    Thanks for explaining though, we appreciate it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They changed circle search (home button search) to always include a desktop screenshot as part of the search on Android. It ruined the search experience. I responded by changing to Duckduckgo for all searching and disabled Gemini from the power button. I would venture I'm not alone

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    But that's the whole point of the feature, isn't it? (I don't even have Gemini installed.) You hold down the circle nav button (or do whatever with gestures) and then use your finger to circle the part of your screen you're trying to visually search for. "Circle to search", right? I use it to ID bugs and things. Or translate text quickly from a photo.

    Are you saying you would use it for just text searches? I've never thought it was for that. There's a search box on the home screen for that, or just open your browser.

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  • Being in marketing: BS.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Having seen how so many average people are using AI, I'm sadly not surprised that people are just going with whatever is up there, even when it is wrong.

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    [–] 80 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Riiight... Next headline: "Pusher claims that his drugs not the cause sleepless nights and bugs under the skin"

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    AI is driving more searches

    This is hilarious. People are searching more because they aren't getting results they need from AI, which drives ad revenue so Google's doing great!

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    To give credit to the people trying to make good search, the internet is so much worse than it was a decade or two ago.

    Over that time the ad driven internet has encouraged low quality, high volume websites full of articles designed around common search terms.

    It started before AI, but now you can drum up an article in seconds it has got much worse.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yup I ran into this last week, looking for a wiring diagram of a relatively obscure part.

    1st page of results on DDG and Google were both AI ‘blog’ style results of random diagrams unrelated to the part. All the same “loading…” text and I’m pretty sure all generated on the fly as I opened them.

    It didn’t even give me the manufacturer’s site in the first 2 pages. And because I got upset and clicked through every result to vent to a co-worker, it decided to give me MORE slop results. I watched the useful info vanish from the results on reloads of the same search term.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Holy crap, I hadn't considered that we have the technology to create articles on the fly based on search terms.

    That could be a serious weapon of war - you get your site to the top through SEO, then show each user personalised propoganda. You show googlebot the genuine page but adjust the page based on what you know about the user.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    There are really two options, either

    1. Clicks on results have decreased because AI summaries are so good. Or
    2. AI summaries aren't giving the answers people want so they're clicking on results.

    It's good for Google to show that clicks are happening because that's part of how they make their money, their clients need the clicks to survive. It's good for Google to show that AI summaries are being used because it's a product they've poured a lot of money into, that's being sold to shareholders as a superintelligence.

    Bubble is going to burst.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago

    Owner of product being sold says product is not bad.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago

    Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?

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    I run sites for a major NGO for addiction recovery. We often ask people how they found us. More than half now say AI. We don't have ads in our sites, but for people monetizing their sites this must be dramatic.

    Also, Google must be bleeding ads revenue,

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Google search boss says words and no numbers :333

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    So he's lying. Good to know.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don’t believe this for a second.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Man who invented torture nexus claims torture nexus isn't used for torture.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Oh so Google is only killing people and not the Internet? What a relief. /s

    What a bunch of BS.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Are we counting Gemini interactions as search?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Search clicks were dead already from 19 out of the top 20 results being AI generated SEO garbage pages and "articles" that contains information that is blatantly false and even contradictory. AI just gives you that same garbage right there without having to click anything. The real info is probably buried somewhere two search pages down.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Honestly, the guy is absolutely full of crap, but this is a solid point. The question is where the clicks AI summaries are absolutely killing are coming from.

    I can't imagine this will survive forever, considering that Google has already gone through the loop of getting nuked from orbit by the EU by summarizing news content once. Even if AI wasn't involved in this at all, it's of very dubious legality in... well, wherever Google News got swiftly shut down.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Amount of Google searches I've made since implementation of AI results: zero

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I've only used Google a couple of times, and by accident. The ebook reader I have seems hard coded to search Google when you ask it to search the web for a word in the book. I intensely dislike the AI slop. I do not want an AI summary of the Wikipedia article. Just take me to the wiki article you dunces!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    As my country likes to put it "ownself check ownself"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha.....
    But on a serious note I am starting to get questions asked how to avoid AI completely. Nuke Google seems to make people very angry!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Avoiding Google is honestly the best choice to avoid AI. Duckduckgo has a toggle where you can switch off AI summaries and filter out most AI generated images in image search. I switched to DDG years ago and never looked back.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Reading bing, dogpile ddg and misc website aggregate requests as clicks

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    People still use Google for search?

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Do people still use the most popular search engine for search? I get you're trying to be factitious but it comes across as naff.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I just tried to use google a few hours ago and it got me the same bad results as other search engines, only that it gave me a bunch of advertisements and AI slop first.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It might be the most popular but it is utter crap and has been for a while. It has reached peak enshittification. You used to be able to say you absolutely wanted a term in the search or you didn’t want other terms. It ignores all of that now. Google stopped being about able to search years ago and is more about showing you the most relevant ad. I’m either DuckDuckGo or I self-host my own searxng. I’ve also tried using a locally hosted perplexica (running on my own local LLM) which uses searxng underneath the hood I think.

    Btw: I’m a yank so I had to look up naff so I learned some cool new slang! Now I’ll admit I was being slightly flippant but serious in the fact that Google really sucks as a search engine now.

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    Maybe I just am using it wrong, but DDG consistently gives me completely irrelevant results, while Google still gives me what I'm looking for about 70% of the time. Maybe I just need to learn the proper way to search with DDG but so far it's been next to useless in finding me relevant info.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    DDG also seems to exclude some websites from search even if you specifically give terms that should give results for a site. Try searching for any model from Bad Dragon's website like "bad dragon nova" or another sex toy maker "mr hankeys beefcake" and the first result should be for the item on the maker's website. I can't ever get DDG to give results and safe search is already off. It has been like this for years.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Company fails to realize people circumvent their shoehorned tool

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    Cloudflare is killing clicks

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