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[–] 116 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They would lose likely 98% of their player base.

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  • maybe the goal is instead to try to get ahead of regulation by implementing a system that is easily bypassed by most kids (like these video based age estimations). Then they can show this to the regulator and be like: "look were already doing everything we can, no need to actually put the regulation in place".

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  • [+] 145 points 1 year ago (18 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I don’t understand why people needed to give them constant money. For real, I played for a minute but never spent a dime. Why buy things when you can achieve them?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    To be honest I regret spending so much time earning money and buying so many cars. It would have been more fun riding around in a stolen piece of trash robbing liquor stores with a friend than grinding the bank heist over and over.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Because it's extremely annoying to earn enough money. Payouts are pathetic and things are extremely expensive to push you towards buying money. I didn't spend any money on it thankfully, that's just my reasoning behind it.

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    This is definitely the way I feel. Even if I really want to do something, if I find out they’re doing this to squeeze me or they’re putting some wild shit in the privacy policy, I just don’t engage with their shit. Fuck those companies. I’m more angry with capitalism than I am susceptible to the desire they try to garner

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It was great the first couple years when people were just throwing piles of in game money around so everyone could play with all the flashy things. After they cinched up every money glitch and started pushing shark cards…online instantly lost any appeal. As you said, grinding for things in game is purposefully tedious and geared to make you spend more money.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately, the online component easily becomes a profitable sideline. Sarcastically, it's what keeps some game corporation CEOs afford their lifestyles.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    On the flip side, it's given it insane longevity and made it feel more modern. Playing singleplayer feels so annoying at times because of their arbitrary rules (which are still in online, but toned down a little) and gameplay/mission design.

    At least GTAO showed everyone rockstar's true nature, and you couldn't turn away or say that it's a small alternative game mode.
    So shoutout to online and 5 as a whole for showing me enough to avoid all future rockstar titles lol

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    GTA5 was released in 2013. GTA6 is being released 13 years later. If there had been no GTAO, we would have had at least one or two more "modern" GTA releases in that window.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I wouldn't be so sure. Modern AAA games are insanely big and resource-intensive. Just look at rdr2

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Isn't GTAV an 18 rated game? So children shouldn't be able to buy it in the first place.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The point is to make children used to checks.

    It's a didactic law.

    IRL usually children grow up feeling they are free (except for their parents) to an extent.

    This is intended so that identifying yourself in the Internet were normal by the time you grow up for it to matter.

    But, of course, there might be some good considerations, if you're into playing devil's advocate. People might remember which stupid shit they were posting when they were younger, and want for future generations to be always conscious of the difference between pseudonymity and anonymity, and superficial anonymity vs real. People might want to make it so that nobody had a false sense of security, leading to really bad mistakes. People might want this to be the step preceding some way to fight bots.

    And they might even not have good considerations, but eventually realize that the oppressive system they are building is best rebuilt for something better and used differently. Wouldn't be the first time in history.

    It's just that laying down your arms in hopes for that is unwise.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    This falls on the parents instead because of dumb laws every one has to deal with this, I just hope that not all countries are this insane:

    users in the UK have had to take photos of themselves and upload it to a service that uses AI to guess their age. Or, send in photos of ID such as passports or driving licenses.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The problem needs to be addressed at the root, make making children illegal !

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    If they roll this out to my country, I'm just not buying any of their games. My privacy is worth a lot more than that.

    I might still play them, I just won't buy them, because I'm not doing age verification.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Can you even call it GTA online if there aren't a dozen 12 year olds running around screaming, "N***** and F*****".

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    [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Maybe I'm dating myself but this is the same company that released state of emergency for the PS2? That game you could literally mow down people in a mall with a mini gun?

    They were worried about "the children?" News to me.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My mum enjoyed the bonus level in the mall where you could just kill like 100 people as fast as you could.

    Her favourite weapon is the flamethrower.

    Her first reaction to the game was "that's disgusting", but I let her have a go and suddenly she was toasting a whole crowd and loving every minute of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I mean the whole "ban gta" movement was started by rockstar themselves. They riled up the masses about how dangerous gta is, and it worked. The moms hopped onto the train and the whole movement gained momentum and the made billions.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    With the reputation most companies have with leaking and breached data, who wouldn't want to have their ssn and license on file with rock star games?!

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    And nothing of worth was lost

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    If we're going to government age verification everywhere just get rid of fucking ESRB and content ratings

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If we’re going to government age verification everywhere just get rid of fucking ESRB and content ratings

    This is a game made in Scotland, ESRB is a voluntary US based system.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yes, it’s voluntary and self-imposed by the game industry to avoid exactly this kind of nanny-state bullshit. Ergo, if governments proceed with the bullshit anyway, then there’s no longer a need for the ESRB or PEGI.

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    [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So, I loose no functionality when I pirate it?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Phew, ok good. A few months ago, when this first leaked, it made it seem like this was going to be used for every country and for the entire game. I have never played GTA online and never will.

    The internet is continuing to get worse and worse... also, those comments on the actual article were strangely to pro.

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    The same parents that allow their children to play these games now will allow them to play then.

    This will just make me not want to play these games.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm already boycotting rockstar, just make offline games and stop with the invasive bs

    Now my money is going to indie developers

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I hope they don't block VPN access.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    The thing with age verification is that I don't think it's a bad thing if done securely, but still it still makes me sad, because Internet will never be the same with it. In the end it will be only few big websites who can afford to care about Internet regulation.

    Well, after all maybe it's time to switch to Gemini protocol, they are not going to regulate that!

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    age verification is just a BS strawman. do you remember when we where young? we would access stuff and find ways to buy stuff. but whenever there was a reasonable but fair gap, it would be much harder to get whatever we wanted: buying weed was so much easier, than buying alcohol (without the appropriate age).

    pirating is easy (even i figured it out before having enough money to buy movies & games). so the kids will just pirate that stuff and get their way anyway. age verification at the store makes so much more sense. sure, there are ways to circumvent those. but it is a reasonable stop block.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    When I couldnt buy digital stuff because of age restrictions (e.g. game shops) I at one point figured out that Steam doesnt do that and you could get Paysafecards to buy them this way.
    No need for paypal (which needs an online banking enabled SEPA account or credit card) or a credit card.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    exactly what i am talking about. age restriction at the physical store kept you away for a while, while not forcing an alternative/underground market. however, if you knew the only way to get it is on an alternative store - you would immediately have looked there.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Don't see how pirating well overcome the online age check.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    But Rockstar Games acquired FiveM back in 2023, so I don't see how is that relevant to piracy. In fact even if it wasn't, there was nothing illegal about it as far as I am aware.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    if you can run a private server, you can get rid of all 'phone home' requirements.

    so you just need a cracked copy of the game itself. luckily it is completely legal to remove digital locks on anything you bought in many countries (not the usa though).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Im bout to crash out this is absolutely the most stupidest idea ever. Anyone should be able to play this game regardless of age.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I wouldn't mind not having to play with children. But it's a privacy issue

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    What about disabling the shitty anti-cheat or even just enabling it on Linux so I, as a 27yo, can play the damn game?

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