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[–] 81 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This just shows how pernicious Democrat influence really is! Despite not having a sitting president, and carrying a majority, Biden's insipid influence STILL has the price of coffee higher than it should have been.

Republicans are considering various solutions, varying from bombing coffee-producing nations to calling it "fake news", or just saying "Coffee? You guys still drink that stuff?"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I'm just over here wishing I could get 49% of the population to care about food becoming cost-prohibitive even when their guy is in office, because all I heard about was how great the economy was doing in 2024, even though most Americans were finding that staples were becoming too expensive to buy in a grocery store.

    All we heard from Democrats on that was that they were oh-so-powerless (which we can observe is bullshit, watching how Donald has governed this year) or to, you know, just be joyful.

    The partisans are happy to make excuse after excuse when their guy is holding the reins of power, whether Republican or Democrat.

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  • [–] 157 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

    Turns out that putting a 50% tariff on the biggest coffee producer in the world (to try to interfere with Bolsonaro's trial) raises the price of coffee, who would've thunk

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Price of the coffee is the smallest part of that cup of coffee though, probably less than a dollar. The vast majority of it is everything else from facilities to work and leeches cutting their profits

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    They’re putting huge tariffs on Switzerland too. Which makes the grinders and other shit Starbucks uses to make coffee in its shops.

    However, I’m pretty sure roasted beans and ground coffee at the grocery store is just price fixed to the cost of a cup at the megacorp coffee shops at this point.

    Fuck this place. And fuck it’s coffee industry.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Are we sure this person isn't buying instant granules? At least to my Australian brain, a 25 fl oz cup of coffee (~739 mL in real units), is a patently insane size to buy from a cafe.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Are we sure this person isn't buying instant granules?

    Yes

    a 25 fl oz cup of coffee

    They aren't buying that either; they are buying a 25 oz (~700g) container of coffee beans, most likely pre-ground

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    That's probably a fill for a thermos, but yeah that's a proper size coffee.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    At that point, why go to a cafe?

    This is very Australian of me, but you don't really go to cafes just to drink a boatload of coffee. You go for the vibes, or the great quality coffee, but if you want 25 fl oz of coffee, what exactly are you buying. Batch brew (drip coffee to the Americans, I think?)

    You'd be wired as fuck, that's for sure haha

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Grab a coffee on the go? Idk it's common here

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    People grab takeaway coffee here also, but not a 740 mL coffee. Those really are insane sizes.

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  • [+] -20 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It's actually because people are willing to pay it.

    Products are priced according to what people are willing to pay, not what they cost to produce.

    If you've ever sold drugs, you'd know this firsthand. So many suckers are proud to pay 500%+ markup on products and then praise me for selling it to them.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    What about eggs though? What about the price of eggs? Eggs are very important. Some people can't live without eggs! Some people apparently only eat eggs.

    Surely that's worth a little fascism, as a treat?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Eggs are more expensive but that's good actually, it was always good, it's good when eggs are expensive, it's good actually.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    See if eggs are cheap then the migrants we pay pennies to harvest them might be able to afford to eat! And that would be bad right you don't want BROWN people eating the eggs they harvest for YOU do you???

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    My favorite part of the egg saga is the recent executive order - where trump wants to pressure California to reduce regulations on eggs. Despite the fact that, a large part of the spikes in egg prices and availability were directly influences by massive cullings caused by poorly regulated and unhealthy environments.

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    [–] 55 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    My wife is going to shit kittens if coffee prices spike, only drug she does.

    Hate all this, prepared to suffer. These MAGA dipshits will have to feel real pain, for some time. The Great Depression ushered in 60-years of liberal legislators. And just like fascism and tariffs, we gotta learn again now that our grandparents are dead.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My girl saw where the harvest wasn't great and we were anticipating tariffs. We stocked up on coffee late last year/early this year.

    The useless giant ass gun safe that came with our house is full of vacuum packed coffee.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Yaupon Holly is a native North American plant that contains caffeine. Was traditionally used by Indians as a tea or coffee. Also used during the civil war as a substitute.

    I have found it around old homeplace ruins in the deep south. It is also a common landscaping plant. Need to plant some around the house.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I've bought some yaupon tea bags before. It was actually pretty good. I like black tea, and don't like coffee though, so people expecting a coffee taste may not like it. It's very comparable to black tea, IMO. I also have a yaupon bush in my yard, but never tried processing and ingesting it.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If you really need caffeine, just take caffeine pills.

    Coffee is a very inefficient and expensive way to imbibe caffeine.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sometimes it's about the preparation ritual, not necessarily just the caffeine.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago

    Well, if that 'preparation ritual' is worth paying 1000% more, then people should understand that's why they're doing it.

    We gotta get this "it's for the caffeine" idea out of people's heads if it's not really for the caffeine.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You know, some people actually like the taste of coffee. I don't know what flavors caffeine pills come in, but i doubt that they are comparable to a nice, hot cup of cappuccino in the morning, and feeling the caffeine and the warmth while waking up.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    If you're after that bitter taste, chicory is an option. You can compose it with milk and everything like coffee. The taste is a bit different, more herbal (which makes sense…). Sometimes I add a bit of cinnamon to it, that marries very well. But it has no caffeine. I almost fully replaced my coffee consumption already. One of its benefits is you can totally have a cup before sleeping!

    It is common to mix it with coffee by the way!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Coffee and tea both have a slightly different buzz from one another and caffeine pills IMO. At the very least caffeine pills definitely hit way faster, and that can be too much for those sensitive.

    I do think coffee itself is a luxury that everyone is used to having. And to be fair, it's been dirt cheap for quite a while. A lot of the world gets by on instant coffee and basic tea, though.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Isn't this because coffee harvests fell short due to drought caused by global warming?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Also because of the tariff threat on Brazil. You know, the country responsible for a bit over 1/3 of the coffee that USA imports

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm surprised that it's not yet a common occurrence that when a seller learns that the buyer of goods is american, he simply marks the price up by 50% because of fuck you, thats why

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There is a semi-popular opinion here in Canada that we should also be adding an export tax to goods the US has no other place to source except from Canada. The US absolutely has to buy Canadian softwood lumber for Home construction. How about a 10% export tax, have fun building expensive houses.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    And floods. Read somewhere entire coffee fields were damaged or uprooted by heavy rains.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    "Someone needs to tell Trump the economy isn't just 14 years old"

    Would be a great bumper sticker

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Why's it feel like a bunch of Trump supporters are about to dress up in sombreros and start tossing coffee beans in the ocean

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Tarif make thing cost more?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Glad I don't drink coffee. My heart goes out to those who do and did not bring this upon themselves.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Have you heard of this drink called tea? It's isn't grown in the US either.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Tea’s okay, but it doesn’t create that warm, lovey feeling I get from coffee. It just doesn’t satisfy the way coffee does. Probably because tea has lower caffeine content?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    afaik, most tea has a higher caffeine content than coffee.

    i can't explain that effect either. I feel like coffee is less "watery" than tea tho - is there any data on the viscosity of coffee? maybe it has something to do with reduced surface tension

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  • Prepared coffee definitely has more caffeine than tea. Here's one example source showing the difference. It seems that although raw tea leaves contain a higher caffeine content than raw coffee beans, coffee is prepared in a way that extracts more caffeine into the drink.

    The numbers on that link show that:

    "An average cup (220 ml) of black tea packs 50 mg of caffeine but can contain more" (if steeped for longer)

    "An average 8-ounce (237-ml) cup of coffee contains 90 to 200 mg of caffeine."

    There's a lot more information on that link, but it seems that prepared coffee generally contains somewhere between 2-4x as much caffeine as the same amount of prepared tea.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Americans don't drink as much of tea as Europeans. It annoys me, because I can't for example buy any black tea at my Costco and have to go to a different store, but they have entire aisle of nothing but coffee.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Most Europeans outside Britain don't drink that much tea either.

    Also coffee in Europe tends to be espressos rather than filter coffee, so more coffee (the actual beans) per unit of water than in the US (which is why you seldom find free-refills coffee in Europe and that only in places serving filter coffee).

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Hmmm, what happened in the past six months or so that could explain this.... HMMMMMM

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I live in Ireland and the laptop I bought for €1000 over a year ago currently costs €1600. Prices & gouging going up everywhere.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trumps-50-brazil-coffee-tariff-expected-rejig-trade-send-more-beans-china-2025-08-01/

    Trump's 50% Brazil coffee tariff expected to rejig trade, send more beans to China

    A 50% tariff on some Brazilian products, including coffee, will begin on August 6

    It's actually not in force for a few more days. I would also assume that insofar as is possible, importers will import stock ahead of the deadline, so it'll probably delay impact.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why not just bulk up on stock and then raise prices without necessarily needing to to maximize profits but blaming the tariffs as of day one? I don't see why this wouldn't happen

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Competition, same thing that normally limits prices. You don't need to "blame" tariffs to raise prices


    you can just raise them. If you're the only vendor of coffee in the US, you can increase prices without losing sales. But I'd expect that anyone who selling coffee or another item that can be stored and is going to have a significant increase in tariffs will try to get stock in before that. Raise prices and you lose sales to other parties.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    ..the only way this could possibly be funny is if....fuck...

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    It's because useful idiots kept paying it.

    Products are priced according to what people are willing to pay, not what they cost to produce.

    Every moron telling you "they're a business and they need to make money!" is directly responsible for why things are they way they are.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Besides paying services, the location and salaries no business needs more money than that to exist. It is advisable to have some reserves to cushion for an emergency or a needed investment but that does not require millions sitting in a bank account.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    No offense but you are aware that products are priced by where supply and demand intersect, right? The cost to produce does matter.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    The cost to produce does matter.

    Only insomuch as setting a price floor, but not a ceiling

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    I might be severely misunderstanding you. Are you saying that the cost of production is not a concern when the government is deciding the maximum allowable price of a good or service?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Ah, sorry, thought we were talking about business setting prices, not government intervention

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Correct. What did you mean by setting a price floor?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Well, outside extreme circumstances, the manufacturer isn't likely to sell below their own cost; hence the manufacturing cost is a price floor

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