I know it never could or would work, but every so often I wish there was some imaginary huge tract of land that nobody had owned before...and I guess somehow didn't affect the environment for all the assholes that want to play power games or pretend they could rule the world or just live lawlessly so they could be silo'ed off from society. Of course it would fall apart, innocent people would somehow end up in there. They'd probably end up attacking the rest of the world and I'm sure a myriad of other terrible problems. But man that'd be nice.

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I unironically want this for everyone. You want to help give communism another shot? Welcome to our home, comrade. You think the DOT, DOE, and FDA are infringing on your rights? Freedom is just a plane ride away. You dream of theocracy? Your wish is granted, by his hand. A streamlined process for balanced legal migration would also be great.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    So........ a libertarian Micronation ??

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Yes. Somalia has 1,900 miles of coastline, a government that knows its place, and all the guns and wives you can afford to buy. Why have I never heard of this paradise before?

    -Pierce Hawthorne

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It would be easier to somehow trick those people into a matrix-style virtual reality where it's literally the same as the current world at the point where they enter (so they don't realize). Then they can act out whatever they want to do as they do in the real world with all the consequences, but instead affecting nothing in reality. Having an autonomous zone to act it out won't work because they won't be satisfied if the real world they perceive isn't affected.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I imagine it becoming a haven for profitable vices like drugs, gambling and prostitutes to make money off tourists.

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    Honestly I'm more wishing the opposite was possible. Imagine a utopia to test out, UBI, communism etc... somewhere that capitalists aren't going to sabatoge and declare war on it while it's in it's infancy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Danish countries.

    And...huh, it works.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I guess by "Danish countries" you mean scandinavia (Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland)? Then i regrettably have to inform you, that they are just slightly less horrendously capitalistic. Compared to the USA they probably seem like star trek though, so i get the sentiment.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    You should watch Westworld! It's basically what you describe.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You might want to read Neuromancer to find out why that’s a terrible idea. If it’s in a cyberpunk world, it’s almost assuredly a giant red flag the author is waving.

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    To be clear, I don't want to go to this autonomous zone. I want others to go do their weird shit there ha. But yea I'll have to read Neuromancer, have heard it's a good read.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s not about living there. The zone still allows for the rich and powerful to exploit people and profit immensely off of it. The world would be no prettier because your autonomous zone; that area would just be filthier.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago

    And thus why this zone is imaginary and would never work and I say it would have terrible problems. I fully accept reality and don't want this to actually exist. This shower thought was not based in reality yet it seems I wasn't clear about that.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That was essentially why the US was founded.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Have you heard about what happened when libertarians took over Grafton, NH?

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nah but I'm stuck here., womp womp. I want a place people voluntarily go into. This is not based in reality lol. As I've gotten older and learned more about history, I realized what a cursed nation we are though...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You might be interested in the history of Kowloon Walled City after WW2

    As a result of the absence of any widely recognized bureaucracy, the city's residents and businesses had no municipal codes to govern them. Enabled by the enclave's anarchic nature, trade in banned products thrived, ranging from narcotics to dog meat. From the 1950s to the 1970s, it was controlled by local triad gangs and had high rates of prostitution, gambling, and drug abuse.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Would you kindly make Rapture a real place?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    *See Australia, Taiwan, U.S.A., Japan

    Society used to exile people, send them to penal colonies or some people that felt ostracized packed up and left Society. Where? To some of the grea open uninhabited or not so habitatated lands. Taking U.S.A. as an example, there where religious extremists who became unwelcome in Britain, so they left to a place they could practice thier beliefs without competition, America.

    Every Society worked better because you didn't need to imprison or kill people that where criminals and people that where ostracized somewhat had the option of making thier own land. Now every single piece of land is claimed there is nowhere to exile people and no where to just run to.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    sounds like the purge.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    It wouldn't work, even in principle. They want to force you to live by their lunacy. It would be totally pointless if they couldn't exert power over the unwilling.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Of course it wouldn't work. That's the whole point. But I say we just ship them there whether they want to go or not.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago

    Thank you. You get it. We're not assuming the rules of the world we live in. I'm just fantasizing a simple solution to a complex problem and pretending the problem would be solved ha. (Yes yes I know the problems continue...)

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    Unfortunately they're probably not stupid enough to all fuck off to Mars soon…

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    How about a boat in international waters?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I thought you said Autozone and I was excited that someone else was also enthusiastic about a do-it-yourself auto repair shop

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    “Walkaways” is a good piece of fiction about this

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ooh interesting. Is it by Cory Doctorow?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I misread. Walkaways is about autonomous communities apart from capitalist society. They walk away from it. But the dangerous stuff isn’t part of the book. But it is a very good book.

    Yes it is by Doctorow.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Are we just Curtis Yarvin-posting now?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    I think I should clarify that I have no interest in participating in this zone. The reality is we live in a world of monsters and I unrealistically wish there was somewhere else they could go and do their evil and leave us be.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Westworld explored that idea. It doesn't end well.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm not saying it would end well, in fact I know it would be a disaster lol. I stopped watching Westworld after two seasons and was trying to come up with a joke about how it doesn't end well...it jumped the shark or some corny joke ha. Anyway did the show actually have a conclusion and is it worth watching to the end?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    If you were to write an isekai anime for this, it seems like this might be wildly popular in a The Boys kind of way

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That sounds like you want to deport people

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    There is. It’s called Detroit.

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    Afghanistan exists. See how well that idea has worked out

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    It's called "International Waters" and we need to ship them all there. If we want to be generous we can give them rowboats.

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