I unironically want this for everyone. You want to help give communism another shot? Welcome to our home, comrade. You think the DOT, DOE, and FDA are infringing on your rights? Freedom is just a plane ride away. You dream of theocracy? Your wish is granted, by his hand. A streamlined process for balanced legal migration would also be great.
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So........ a libertarian Micronation ??
Yes. Somalia has 1,900 miles of coastline, a government that knows its place, and all the guns and wives you can afford to buy. Why have I never heard of this paradise before?
-Pierce Hawthorne
It would be easier to somehow trick those people into a matrix-style virtual reality where it's literally the same as the current world at the point where they enter (so they don't realize). Then they can act out whatever they want to do as they do in the real world with all the consequences, but instead affecting nothing in reality. Having an autonomous zone to act it out won't work because they won't be satisfied if the real world they perceive isn't affected.
I imagine it becoming a haven for profitable vices like drugs, gambling and prostitutes to make money off tourists.
So you're saying someone would make their own country, with blackjack and hookers?
Sure. And in my imaginary head canon that is fine and everyone assumes the risk of going into that zone. Once again...this would never work.
Pink Floyd - The Fletcher Memorial Home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDDzR2zSgsM
Honestly I'm more wishing the opposite was possible. Imagine a utopia to test out, UBI, communism etc... somewhere that capitalists aren't going to sabatoge and declare war on it while it's in it's infancy.
Danish countries.
And...huh, it works.
I guess by "Danish countries" you mean scandinavia (Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland)? Then i regrettably have to inform you, that they are just slightly less horrendously capitalistic. Compared to the USA they probably seem like star trek though, so i get the sentiment.
You might want to read Neuromancer to find out why that’s a terrible idea. If it’s in a cyberpunk world, it’s almost assuredly a giant red flag the author is waving.
To be clear, I don't want to go to this autonomous zone. I want others to go do their weird shit there ha. But yea I'll have to read Neuromancer, have heard it's a good read.
It’s not about living there. The zone still allows for the rich and powerful to exploit people and profit immensely off of it. The world would be no prettier because your autonomous zone; that area would just be filthier.
That was essentially why the US was founded.
Have you heard about what happened when libertarians took over Grafton, NH?
Nah but I'm stuck here., womp womp. I want a place people voluntarily go into. This is not based in reality lol. As I've gotten older and learned more about history, I realized what a cursed nation we are though...
You might be interested in the history of Kowloon Walled City after WW2
As a result of the absence of any widely recognized bureaucracy, the city's residents and businesses had no municipal codes to govern them. Enabled by the enclave's anarchic nature, trade in banned products thrived, ranging from narcotics to dog meat. From the 1950s to the 1970s, it was controlled by local triad gangs and had high rates of prostitution, gambling, and drug abuse.
*See Australia, Taiwan, U.S.A., Japan
Society used to exile people, send them to penal colonies or some people that felt ostracized packed up and left Society. Where? To some of the grea open uninhabited or not so habitatated lands. Taking U.S.A. as an example, there where religious extremists who became unwelcome in Britain, so they left to a place they could practice thier beliefs without competition, America.
Every Society worked better because you didn't need to imprison or kill people that where criminals and people that where ostracized somewhat had the option of making thier own land. Now every single piece of land is claimed there is nowhere to exile people and no where to just run to.
There is still Antarctica
It wouldn't work, even in principle. They want to force you to live by their lunacy. It would be totally pointless if they couldn't exert power over the unwilling.
Yea, in the real world I guess we're stuck with these bastards. What a bunch of bastards!
Of course it wouldn't work. That's the whole point. But I say we just ship them there whether they want to go or not.
Are you talking about Rapture from BioShock?
Unfortunately they're probably not stupid enough to all fuck off to Mars soon…
I thought you said Autozone and I was excited that someone else was also enthusiastic about a do-it-yourself auto repair shop
“Walkaways” is a good piece of fiction about this
Ooh interesting. Is it by Cory Doctorow?
I misread. Walkaways is about autonomous communities apart from capitalist society. They walk away from it. But the dangerous stuff isn’t part of the book. But it is a very good book.
Yes it is by Doctorow.
Are we just Curtis Yarvin-posting now?
I think I should clarify that I have no interest in participating in this zone. The reality is we live in a world of monsters and I unrealistically wish there was somewhere else they could go and do their evil and leave us be.
Westworld explored that idea. It doesn't end well.
I'm not saying it would end well, in fact I know it would be a disaster lol. I stopped watching Westworld after two seasons and was trying to come up with a joke about how it doesn't end well...it jumped the shark or some corny joke ha. Anyway did the show actually have a conclusion and is it worth watching to the end?
If you were to write an isekai anime for this, it seems like this might be wildly popular in a The Boys kind of way
It's called "International Waters" and we need to ship them all there. If we want to be generous we can give them rowboats.
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