Remember in 2012 how everyone was horrified when an authoritarian government like China forced everyone to disclose their identities to get online so they could track and censor them?
Now the authoritarians are here.
Remember in 2012 how everyone was horrified when an authoritarian government like China forced everyone to disclose their identities to get online so they could track and censor them?
Now the authoritarians are here.
We're gonna be sending AI generated photos to AI powered age verifiers to read AI generated articles about the latest developments in AI.
Sounds like it's time for those subreddits to find new homes on non-UK instances of Lemmy.
All kinds of governments are rushing to implement something similar. The Fediverse solves some problems, but not the problem of a site being hosted in a single geographical location (and thus a single government's jurisdiction). To help with this there are tools like i2p that can obscure a site's hosting location, and there's also work on distributed web hosting, but the latter still seems to be in its early stages. One day maybe we'll have distributed websites that can be resilient against censorship.
That wouldn't solve anything
Whaddaya mean? A non-UK instance doesn't have to comply with UK law if it doesn't operate as an entity in the UK and so it won't require the face ID for UK visitors. So long as the instance is okay with hosting this content, it would let UK visitors view it. For example, I don't think the UK has authority or mechanism to ask a Brazil-based instance to do this.
Then it just gets blocked in the uk and you're back to having to use a vpn.
Sure but that means they have to have a mechanism, legal and material to execute this. There must be an gov't institution that looks for and designates sites to be blocked. Then they have to have legal power to compel UK ISPs to block those lists. Are these things part of this law? I haven't read enough.
As I understand it if a site doesn't comply and fineing them isn't an option Ofcom can apply for a court order to, indeed, compell ISPs to block them.
Okay. Yeah that makes sense and in that case hosting on the Fediverse out of the UK would probably unblock it for a long time. If the blocking is not trivial - like one person adding a URL to a list - then they'd have to prioritize and they'd likely be going over bigger fish like international porn sites and such for a long time before they reach communities on the Fediverse that may or may not be self-designated NSFW. If they're on Reddit on the other hand, they get voluntarily blocked by the platform itself in the UK almost certainly without direction from Ofcom.
Yeah, that's not making lists of dissenters... /s
I heard that some of the checks require video of the person performing particular movements. So a little harder to fake with AI.
There are video deepfake systems that can animate these fictional faces. We need a catalogue of the kinds of facial positions these systems ask for
One of them that is hard is waving your hand in front of your face. It trips up almost every deepfake system I’ve seen. That’s a common test we’ve had to start using with interviewees because they’d try to game the system.
I guess in that case you could do the following, though it is a bit of work:
Learn what actions are supposed to be taken in the demand for selfie identification
Record a video of yourself performing the actions, but not with your hand moving in front of your face for that section
Record a different video of just your hand moving past the camera
Deepfake the face video
Composite the video of the hand over top of the deep fake video with chroma/luma keying
Use virtual webcam software to play back the video into the actual demand for selfie identification
Wouldn't work if a real human being is there asking, but should work for a known set of instructions ahead of time that is being audited by software.
Call your reps if you don't want that shit in the US.
https://time.com/7288539/kids-online-safety-act-status-what-to-know/
because citizens ringing their digits to express concerns means so much more to them than their donors ringing them
Cool, are you doing anything in the real world to try to make a positive change or just shitting on people who are?
How do they verify the selfie is actually the user?
They don’t, people have been using death stranding 2 photo mode to get around it
You send another selfie of what you actually look like, so they can compare.
Yeah, this is what happens when you write laws with vague language. Companies will always err on the side of caution.
It's crazy that we have website that are just outlets for war gore to begin with. The "solution" to the social rot that is monetization of war pornography appears to be adding a bunch of faces to a big database marked "Adult", I guess?
Who does this even benefit, other than data warehousing and aggregation companies?
If the kids can't see the horrors of war [crimes], they're more likely to be convinced of being participants.
Hey, we wouldn't want young people to know that they're being propagandized by the state of Israel to ignore a genocide, would we? Let's block them from informing themselves under the guise of "protecting" them from porn, which they'll still be able to get to from shadier websites that bombard them with malware. Yeah, that's the solution.
Politicians are so out of touch. Also, all zionists can rot in hell.
Yes, politicians are way out of touch. On every level.
For Zionists... well, that just sounds like genocide with extra steps.... You'd think the Jewish diaspora would be against genocide, but here we are.
https://social-rise.com/blog/list-of-nsfw-subreddits says there are 10476 NSFW subreddits so is this the first of a 5238 long list of articles that all say "UK Users need to post selfie or photo id to view ... and ..."?
Lol no.
They tried that crap already with the black-identifying subs, and surprise surprise they don't actually approve your posts once you follow all the stipulations. They make note of your race and keep you in a "list", reasoning that you didn't meet several "off the book" regulations (gee... why does that sound familiar to any POC applying for a job or an apartment...).
Don't give them any information. You still won't get access, and now they have your personal data.
This is so they can identify everyone who uses the internet.
Remember how everyone was horrified when an authoritarian government like China forced everyone to disclose their identities to get online?
Now the authoritarians are here.
They have already started talking about banning VPNs. It was never about protecting children.
Yes.
“We’re not at all surprised the UK government is deploying this tactic now when the world is paying attention to the horrors unfolding, they’d rather silence the discussion than confront their own complicity,” the moderators of r/IsraelCrimnes told me. “By labeling brutally documented atrocities as ‘mature content’ and gate‑keeping access, they reveal themselves as hypocrites: preaching democracy and human rights abroad while trampling them at home.”
It gets better /s:
Reddit explained that it will verify users' age by partnering with Persona, an identity verification company that raised $200 million in April in a series D round led by Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund. Persona asks users to upload a selfie or photo ID in order to verify their age. Reddit says it does not have access to these images, and that Persona does not retain those photos for more than seven days.
Take a deep breath…
EDIT added /s for sarcasm
Remember how everyone was horrified when an authoritarian government like China forced everyone to disclose their identities to get online? You're thinking of Korea, its government required every citizen to have a ten digit online ID until 2008.
Call your reps if you don't want that shit in the US.
https://time.com/7288539/kids-online-safety-act-status-what-to-know/
Oh that's adorable, it's like a Roman in 80 CE complainign to their senator about government policy.
Cool, are you doing anything in the real world to try to make a positive change or just shitting on people who are?
Maybe just use your MP's selfie or ID? use-their-id.com
Oh this is bad. We need to move more people onto places like this. I can't say I know how though. If you have any ideas please reply to me! I would love to hear them.
UK users need photo ID to view any adult content on the internet. Those subs often include gore. I don't understand what point the author is trying to make.
a lot of the discussion about "require age verification to view adult content" tends to oversimplify "adult content == pornography"
which in turn means opposition to these laws gets dismissed / trivialized as "oh, so you want children to look at porn then?"
I think it's an important reminder that "adult content" is much broader than 13 year olds who want to go to PornHub and search "boobies"
Didn't read the article, but the title is probably just your run-of-the-mill engagement bait and only tangentially related to the content. It's 2025 after all.
Of all the things to get mad at Reddit/UK govt for age restricting, war forage should should be far down that list. Watching people get blown into pieces is literally traumatising and ideally children shouldn't be exposed to it.
UK users need to stop using Reddit and contact their representatives.
This situation would be so much less messy if basically every western nation wasn't deeply complicit.
Is r/UkraineWarFootage clips of actual war? If so I can understand the need to "protect the children" from viewing stuff like that. If however it is just a source towards articles of what is going on then this level of censorship is ridiculous.
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