Because the list takes the onus away from women needing to speak out. We shouldn't require victims to expose themselves if we have other evidence.

What do you wanna bet that, within the next month, a right wing talking head uses that phrase to defend Ghislaine Maxwell?

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Epstein and Israel both hired lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on internationally | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/

Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs

—————————other Trump information:

Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

A good summary of Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75

• ⁠Much of this info can also be found on: https://theepsteindocs.com/

Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it is never “lost”.

We all know. The rest is theatre.

If you're the sort of moron who sees conspiracies everywhere, then the conspiracy goes one way in the first part and a different way in the second part.

They literally see more women speaking out as more unlikely.

Allegations of sexual crimes should always be taken seriously and addressed immediately, however, that's not the same as taking the words of the victims words as the truth. A due process has to be mandatory and proof must remain a non negotiable requirement to arrest and punish someone. That's the one and only way justice can be served.

Why can't we just rely on common sense instead of jumping to massive generalizations regarding someones gender?

Trump has been covered in red flags regarding his treatment of women for years. E. Jean Carroll? Stormy Daniels? Katie Johnson? The Hollywood Access Tape?

I'm a little anxious that if Me Too blows up again it may have the opposite effect intended, and instead deflect attention away from Trump as people argue over the movement itself.

Because people lie. What we can do is to not victim shame so women would be less afraid to come forward. This alone would help deter a would be attacker

While in theory this is a good idea, I have first-hand experience with people grouping together and accusing me of doing things with another (at the time) underage individual, trying to get me kicked out of school/smear my name/see me imprisoned/etc...

The issue? The other underage individual they said I was doing things with, was female. Me, I'm gay as fuck. Which was made pretty obvious during questioning. Also upon examination with the other individual being tested and questioned separately... Suprise, they found that, indeed, both testing and questioning showed the accused activities were completely unfounded. All parties that made these false claims admitted that they were falsified shortly thereafter. I could have sued them, and their families (since they too were underage) - this could have actually ruined my life, these things should be punished, these traumas compensated - but I decided against it, just wanting the situation to go away. It was an awful experience, and I still have trust issues; one of the accusers was friends with me. At least, so I thought.

Now, that's not to say 'oh they are lying' in this case, but you can't just blanket believe either side. You need facts, proof, evidence. Imagine if I were to make these claims about you - suddenly you are interested in evidence and due process.

(I won't be replying to any replies to this comment - don't want to tear open that scar any more than I already have writing this)

You don't have to listen to the women, just listen to Cadet Bonespurs himself.

He went on Howard Stern and boasted of going into the dressing rooms of the Miss Teen USA pageant.

I mean, if anyone without Trump's money and influence had this many accusations leveled against them, you can be pretty sure they'd be behind bars by now. It's not that the women aren't being trusted, it's that the entire fucking system is broken. Or more accurately, is designed to serve the rich and powerful.

Consider that if these women came forward, then the corrupt justice system, that's supposed to protect them, would dismiss or refute thier claims and leave them vulnerable to the powerful people they tried to expose.

They have to be believed AND protected from those they accuse, else they are just painting a target on their backs.

Awww shit here we go again

Trust but verify.

I think people do.believe them, it's just the way justice systems work. It has to be proved without shadow of a doubt.

In general I agree but the timing of saying this is peculiar given the E.M. trial.

You can't just convict someone on vibes

Nobody who matters (Trumps fanbase, Trumps voters, Trumps politicans and Trumps supreme court) care whether he's guilty or convicted.

But the Epstein list is something very central to the Trump campagin narrative and thus if he's on there, that could cause major issues between Trump and his fanbase/voters.

We believe them, we just need to prove it.

People believe in magic sky daddy, im still waiting for proof there too. To be clear, if proof appears im obeying sky daddy so hard.

It's not just about trump tho and it's about concrete evidence. The list is yk about getting a list of all the perpetrators.

So, do you want to drop "innocent until proven guilty" for every accusation by a woman or do you have some simpler system than "evidence presented in an adversarial trial" you'd like to filter them through?

The justice system is broken, and I don't know if it can be fixed. It is far too affected by Capital.

I just want to take a moment to apologize to women for all the bullshit you’ve had to endure, like being treated as interchangeable, objectified, talked down to. None of that is okay, and no one deserves it.

I am all for seeing trump and anyone else in that list behind bars, but this kind of bullshit thinking goes nowhere.

I like the energy, I think Trump should be rotting in prison, but it's a shit argument that basically gives unrestricted power to random individuals.

You could make a similar collage full of false accusers. Without the need for proof, this could easily become a weapon to be used against good people. Don't forget that Trump's base is full of women as well

Money and government are in the way. Person to person, who the fuck wouldn't believe the woman?

Kids got raped and now you’re saying it’s their responsibility to jail the rapists? No.