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[–] 47 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I see German content here all the time, even though I don't understand it or follow it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    It’s either that or learn German and I’m way too busy scrolling for that.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I've accidentally learned a good amount of German from lemmy, actually. I didnt mean to, but from similar words, to looking up Rammstein lyrics, I had a base. From that base, and context, I'm actually learning a good bit of German without intention. Sometimes I read a German headline and it takes me a second to realize I'm reading German. I come across a word I don't know and I'm like "oh shit, I'm reading German". It's honestly been my favorite part of lemmy, I struggled with Spanish in a classroom setting and here I am learning German on accident. Granted, I couldn't pretend to know how to pronounce half of it, but I'm learning to read it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You have to be a bit careful, because some people deliberately talk in wrong German ("Zangendeutsch", where words are translated from English by "force").

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    That makes sense, like learning English from Internet memes?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Worse.
    The German you read from Zangendeutsch memes are almost as grammatically accurate as the German accent you got from Schwarzenegger.
    Imagine the most broken grammar and then you get that.

    On top the grammar is also non-applicable.

    Upside: You can still get some idea of what the meme is about. :)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Whats the latest word you've learned?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Probably eisbrecher, honestly. Because it started coming up on a Rammstein playlist. Which is cool because it gives me the base for ice and breaker, making it that much easier for me to pick up on other words in context, that I may have missed otherwise. Even moreso because I read so much climate news, which is important to me as the US dwindles in climate research, I hope to learn more French and German. I just wish I could learn my grandparents native languages of Norwegian and swedish. Those are much harder for me, even though I've actually put effort into those. It just doesn't come as easy to me.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Please. Let it diversify.

    As a US dweller, I'd love it to be anything but US centric.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think I know what you mean. When I go on holidays, the last place I want to spend my days is in Irish pubs. The good ones can be lovely, and it’s nice to meet new people from home, but it’s not why I’m there.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    yeah, I want to hear more about which of your former ministers have shit themselves at McDonalds!

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago

    Everyone slows down to watch the car wreck.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Because the Europeans post in their weirdo languages.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    The US population is grouped together in one giant pool instead of spread out by state like Europe is grouped by individual country. We focus on national news that affects the large population, and stuff that happens on other states becsuse of the shared identity, while European countries don't have the same kind of European Union shenanigans that affect all of Europe and mostly post about country level stuff. Communities in languages other than English also tend to be posted in separate communites further separating their discussions from the general purpose communities.

    We are also louder, which also contributes, but that is not as big of a deal as the sheer numbers.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    plus, you know, inheritors of the British empire - practically an unbroken chain of hegemonic anglophones who refuse to learn another language

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    While a huge portion of the population chooses not to become fluent in a language, because nearly everything within hundreds of miles of where they live uses the same language by default, we still provide opportunities to learn languages and in some areas people are commonly bilingual.

    It can be hard to maintain a language without frequent exposure. I had some classes in Spanish and French, but without a large population that speaks either language in my area I just forgot it over time. Moved tons place where we do have a lot of people who speak Spanish and English, but since I'm not part of their community my exposure is limited to the occasional festival or signage as nobody needs me to impose my attempt to learn their language on them.

    It isn't all about refusal, it is mostly lack of exposure.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, the geography certainly plays a role - much like it does for Britain having ~30 miles of ocean between it and the rest of Europe.

    But the broad trend in the States has been a narrowing of languages. Like, a century ago there was national distribution for newspapers printed in German. Those started disappearing during WW1 and were completely gone by the end of WW2. And, of course, that is dwarfed by the number of First Nations languages that have been driven to the edge extinction, if not outright extinguished already.

    I think if Lemmy wants to have less of a US bent to topics and perspectives, then they'll have to follow ich_iel's example and stubbornly commit to a language that isn't english. The way how the internet collapses geography, conversation trends toward orbiting the densest population of monoglots.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    It is a self reinforcing system, and the same reason that English has become so widespread worldwide.

    Increased communication across wider areas promote common languages to be more accessible to more people, so in the case of the US this means each time people communicate it is more likely to be in English. Sure, some stupid laws have helped out too but this is a trend that was going to happen in the US for the same reasons English is increasingly used worldwide, but we don't have a national language that English is being added to to promote being bilingual. Quebec has been fighting the trend though legislation since it was happening there as well.

    Even regional dialects of English are being homogenized within the US. It is less likely for people traveling across many states to be unable to understand a regional dialect as was fairly common before cheap long distance communication.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am actively working on learning spanish as an American, because I want to be able to speak to people when I go to central and south America.

    I have far less interest in learning french or german, because Europe is both expensive to get to for me, and expensive to stay in relative to other places I have equal interest in travelling to. And besides that, if I were to travel to Europe, I've been told that everyone there already speaks english anyway. And besides that, I've been told that even if I try to learn french or german, the locals will just speak to me in English anyway since it is faster for them. Due to this, learning these languages largely becomes an intellectual exercise performed for its own sake. And if I'm going to spend hours doing some sort of intellectual hobby, I could just as easily want to learn to paint or play the guitar or perform statistical analysis on the different varieties of weeds in my back yard.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Have you seen the shitstorm we're (U.S.) in? We're like the worst car crash you've ever seen and then the ambulance also crashes then the fire truck blows up and then aliens come down and start attacking...kinda hard to look away.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I thought I understood US politics...even if it was by osmosis given the sheer volume we're exposed to...but lately I felt like I only understood the dem half...after the election I'm not sure and by now I have this "there is no hope of understanding this mess, different culture, different values" that I get from trying to understand Indian politics.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean honestly this is the most deranged and worst it's been in my ... at least adult lifetime. I think a lot of the political mess we're in is tied into our appetite for some pretty terrible pop culture. Yes, yes, we have moral and intelligent and sane people here too, but the way that we have leaned in so hard to trashy reality television, infuencers, anything to grab your attention and reward it monetarily...hell we have a reality tv president. It's not the only reason I think we're in the mess, but I think we've been primed to accept more and more outrageous behavior cause we've always been over the top and big and loud. I always assumed I'd live in a democracy, it was just a given. This is the first time I'm doubting it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yeah fam we live in a fascist oligarchy masquerading as a democracy. Been that way probably our whole lives, it's just the latest puppet gave the game away pretty hard. Hope you'll keep following the white rabbit for your own self edification but stay hydrated and fed and look after your safety, things can get a lot worse before enough people come together to make it better.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    As an American I think the same way.

    We’ve always really had two parties but historically they were not radically different. While I have certain tendencies, I’ve always understood the other party/perspective and sometimes voted for those candidates.

    But now I have no clue what half the country is thinking. I don’t understand what happened to let the current crop of criminals attain leadership or get away with so much. Sometime I think it’s the “leopard eating faces” scenario, but sometimes I think it’s the toddler having a tantrum and knocking over the table scenario. Sometimes I think it’s just narcissists who can only think in the current time with no connection to the future. Sometimes I think people have no abstract thinking anymore and sometimes I think they’re all just gullible and easily manipulable. I can’t even have empathy for them because I can’t tell whether they deserve pity or need a scolding or need to stick to their sandbox.

    Or if you’re talking about the mechanics of politics, that too. We have ways we’ve done things traditionally, according to laws back to (and even before) the constitution found our country. Apparently that doesn’t matter anymore

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It would already be nice if posts specified they are about the USA instead of just blurping out something about "the civil war" for example instead of "the USA civil war".

    One can dream!

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    [–] 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Presumably you're browsing english-language Lemmy

    Most people are going to want to converse in their native/primary language, and by numbers that means a lot of Americans who are, of course, primarily concerned with American issues

    There's also the fact that America is a huge player on the international stage, so American issues can have a lot of repercussions in other countries

    And if you haven't noticed, America has kind of a lot of shit going on and there is a lot to talk about there.

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    [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    From around 7PM - 9PM HST, lemmy is almost 100% German.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No idea where/what time HST is, but I agree, there is a "German time", not so for French, Italian, ...

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'd spend time in All and filter out a bunch of US-centric news communities if I was you. I did that with loads of communions I didn't want to see stuff from.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Why have you filtered out your communions, my child?

    It is important that you not desecrate the sacrament and accept the blood and body as they were intended, not strained or filtered.

    Also, please do not chew the wafer.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Because in a 24 hour news cycle the most interesting story gets the most airtime? Also we likely outnumber you on any engagement. I can't tell you the last time I saw a story from Canada or Germany or the uk that beats felonious demented white nationalist pedophile attempts to ruin entire world in narcissistic crashout. Even if a euro story is important, There are likely less lemmy users who even have a chance of seeing the story much less understand the context enough to engage. Even chinese people are engaging with America's shit show on xiaohongshu. It's a matter of worldwide impact on every platform. Everyone here to watch Nero fiddle

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This is one of my main motivations to learn other languages. The internet is tedious if you only speak English.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's a good point. I've already been tempted to pick up French for weird cartoons like peepoodo, but there's so much Internet I don't see at all because English

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The good thing about English is that it's a slut. So many words and terms come from other languages that it's easy to have a basic word base to start with from other languages. As easy as some Americans dismiss Spanish influence, it's hard to not have at least some kind of understanding of at least some words. And being a Latin language, it's not that hard to grow from there. Hell, even the warnings and manuals for equipment will accidentally give you exposure as you look for the english version. Hablamos por uno ràzon. Broken ass Spanish, but it gets the point across.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I assume its because people love watching train wrecks.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Can confirm. Season 5 is off to a great start. 🍿

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I heard a rumor that half way through season 5 there is going to be a surprise change in cast.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Oooh! Switching things up to keep it spicy. Spoilers! Well, there has been some foreshadowing, but still... I mean, the writing is far from stale or boring, but throwing in a plot twist like that mid-season would be a bold move.

    Either way, I'm sure the season finale won't disappoint.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The internet as a whole is pretty US centric

    There are however exceptions (for example: china)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And I'm sure that Mandarin Internet media sites are very Sinocentric.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    English is a first language in more countries than Mandarin is, though.

    Do wish Yanks would recognise the world as bigger than themselves, the PRC and the USA are shockingly similar.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In pretty sure my instance is based in Germany, or somewhere in Europe at least. That doesn't really matter. You can belong to an instance hosted anywhere, and also I don't trust data privacy at all in the US so I'd rather not have my home instance be hosted here.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Presumably somewhere close enough that they don't want to risk breaking UK law as it's blocked here. Not sure if any other instances will follow. I think all of lemmy is probably against UK law now. Hope we will always have some instances or its small enough to get ignored.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The US is the largest English-speaking country by far and this post is in English. Switch to another language and you'll see less US stuff.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    That has nothing to do with anything. You will obviously not be aware of it, but by far the greater majority of English speakers you encounter on the internet are not actually from an English speaking country, and definitely not from the US. That is because English functions as the lingua franca of the internet, so we have to use English to be mutually understood.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Most of us came from Reddit, and Reddit is predominantly Americans.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    No, the majority of users on reddit are non-Americans. Americans are just the biggest national group of users, but they are a minority. You are more likely to be talking to a non-American than an American on reddit.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Maybe it has to do with your language settings as well? I imagine filtering out English will make your experience much less US-centric.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Yes, that is the implication I was making to answer the original question. The majority of content here is in English-->the majority of English-first users are from the US-->this is why Lemmy seems so US-centric.

    I was being a little obtuse because it's like a French-filtered user asking why social media seems so France-centric even though there's lots of social media in Africa--there are other languages that people use that you're not necessarily seeing on your feed.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That is not the reality though. The majority of English-first users is a quite irrelevant statistic, since a majority of people from non-English speaking countries still uses English on the internet outside of their specific national environments. The majority of English speakers on the internet are non-Americans, so it explains nothing about why the English language (international) areas of lemmy are US-centric.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Perhaps, neither of us seem to have statistics here so it's a little moot. But I was talking more about my impression of Lemmy, the scope of OP's question, rather than the internet at large. I'd be curious to hear your alternative explanation tho!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There are 27 countries in the EU, there is only one USA. Most people don't seem to care about each other's national happenings.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's so fascinating.

    As an American, only peak news from Mexico and Canada gets on my radar. I don't know shit about Brazil, Cuba, etc. and with my shit American education system, I can't even name the South American countries.

    So if you're in Italy, you don't give a shit about Austria, Switzerland, or France and their big news?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I remember in primary school that we were tasked with learning the names and capitals of all countries on the planet, continent for continent, so there is an early taught awareness of all countries, as well as a culture for backpacking, experiencing and adapting to other cultures. As a Norwegian, most news here are about here, and only major headlines from other countries are mentioned in the news, like the upcoming doctors strike in UK in the news today or the power outage in Spain a while back. Some more news from Sweden though, as it is our closest neighbour and the country we visit the most.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago*

    My guess is because the US is a dumpster fire that is exploding right now, and let’s be honest: who doesn’t slow down to “rubber neck” a dumpster fire when they’re passing by?

    Once we’ve completely fallen on our asses, and worn ourselves out crying like little babies, I’m sure the noise will subside.

    Until then you probably want to get a lemmy client that supports keyword filtering and you can at least lessen the noise a little.

    As an American, I don’t know if “rubber necking” is a known colloquialism outside of the US. So, if you don’t know, it’s a term used to refer to the assholes on the road who slow down to gawk at traffic accidents as if they’ve never seen one before; very, very annoying.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Because Americans are louder and tend not to confine their activities to the country-specific forums

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    As an American, I can say one of our defining characteristics is we believe we belong everywhere on the Internet. There is no space that we are embarrassed to enter. Reminds me of the Americans showing up on Chinese social media and acting like they owned the place.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Most likely English-centric.
    For me, english is my internet language anyway so...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Because the average US citizen doesn't speak a 2nd language while most of Europeans know English, so the focus shifts towards that

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    There are just more of us than any single EU country.

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