This feels basic now but I used to be very 'pro tech' and would have latest-ish phones, getting smart gadgets, etc.
Now I consider those features to be negatives and refuse to buy things with internet, if possible.
This feels basic now but I used to be very 'pro tech' and would have latest-ish phones, getting smart gadgets, etc.
Now I consider those features to be negatives and refuse to buy things with internet, if possible.
I used to be a conservative Christian. I was vehemently opposed to things like gay marriage and abortion.
Then I actually moved to a larger city and met gay people and, well, that became the crux of my deconstruction. Turns out people are people, no matter where or how they're born, or what they choose to be or identify as.
My views on abortion have changed, to the point where I very much do not believe in fetal personhood, though I still think late-term abortions should be shied away from if they can be avoided. Regardless, it makes no sense to remove a woman's right to choose how her body is used. It's hers. If she doesn't want to put her body through childbirth, or doesn't want to take on the immense burden of raising a child, she shouldn't have to. But, at the same time, dudes should be aware of what they can inflict upon a woman just because 'it doesn't feel as good' with a condom on. Wrap it before you tap it, boys.
what they choose to be
Sometimes biological preference is biology and not preference, though. Something to continue ruminating on.
or what they choose to be or identify as.
Still can't help but repeat tired old anti LGBTQ+ rhetoric though. Still framing it as a choice.
Maybe you didn't even realize you did it, I don't know.
After the October 7 attack I was very pro isreal. Of course it's totally unacceptable for a neighbor to enter one's territory and kill hundreds of innocent civilians. You can't commit such an act of terrorism without consequences. However I have seen that the Israeli invasion has been all but moral and the use of the word genocide feels more and more justified. It has gone way over board and I have staunchly become anti isreal. The war was supposed to be a war on Hamas but the innocent civilians in Gaza have had to bear with unbelievable suffering which I no longer believe justifies the war.
What made you not realize the decades of Israeli aggression that caused October 7?
as someone who went through the same, it was mostly lack of attention. i had a vague idea that israel and palestine hated each other, and it was easy to understand from a perspective of israel taking palestinian land, but when you don't think about it too much it's easy to both sides it or feel like the supposedly western, supposedly democratic one has a point. i think a lot of people in the west had that vague, unrefined view when oct 7 happened, and it's easy to stand with someone who just suffered a terror attack.
but it just kept being a focus in media, and the more you look into it, the clearer israel's crimes against humanity become. and the crazy part is that the vague perspective of israel taking the land for themselves is absolutely correct, but when you see it for the real atrocity it is, rather than an abstract curiosity, it's impossible to side with the occupiers if you're not a bigot.
I can only add that, as much as I despise what occurred to Israel that day, it achieved their objectives in a way nothing else probably could have. It's difficult to morally reconcile, but the evil they committed against Israel exposed a greater evil Israel was committing against them.
This is exactly how I see it as well, it brought the worlds attention to their situation and exposed Israel’s human rights violations and other atrocities to the forefront where as earlier it was easy to think of it as some local border dispute, now it’s apparent that Israel is a apartheid country that is trying to slowly genocide a group of people and will never agree to any peaceful solution. I hope that Americans get their shit together and force the next group of politicians that come to power to stop funding this amoral crime against humanity through their tax dollars
I was in the same boat (outside of being already critical regarding israels illegal settlements in the west bank). Main reason was that growing up in Austria, criticizing anything jewish was practically a taboo, and the only ones doing it publicly were the far right, which delegitimized all of it in public discussion.
It took their atrocities to make me realize how much effort Israels Zionists are putting into trying to tie Judaism/Ethnic Jews/Zionism together, so that blaming Israel can be countered by accusing anyone to be an antisemite. (I also have to say that for how good Israel is at Psyops, they really botched this one on the world stage.) I also realized that the conflict became a lot more one sided over the years; in the 80s and 90s there still was a push for a 2-state solution, and attacks in both directions were a common occurrence. Nowadays Israelis getting hurt is often the direct result of repressive action from Israels side.
Oct 7 might very well have been an false flag op in retrospective. It gave Bibi the chance to annex all of Gaza, Genocide be damned. It's similar to Putins staged apartment complex attack.
Bibi received warnings from multiple sources that an attack was planned and yet weren't troops moved away from the venue where it occurred in days before?
It's pretty much been confirmed that Netanyahu let it happen.
Then there's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive
I cannot believe that the vaunted Israeli intelligence apparatus, perhaps the best on the planet, didn't have a clue such a massive attack was coming.
One lesson here is that psyops only work in a nominal range of material conditions.
You can keep comfortable people from paying too much attention to a distant problem, but once daily life becomes too difficult, people's pattern recognition starts seeing through it fast.
Also people are extremely sensitive to rates of change. The elites panicked and/or got impatient, thought they had it in the bag, and now the general public is more activated and cohesive than they have probably ever been.
US media has spun such a one sided narrative for decades that I never looked close enough to to catch on that it was whitewashing genocide. October 7th and the Israeli reaction was comparable to the US genocide of Native Americans both through the dehumanization and pbvious propaganda that I started paying more attention. The more details came out, including the apartheid state structure, the less I felt that there will ever be a peaceful two state solution when Israel is an expansionist culture that cannot accept or acknowledge the right to exist of the Palestinians whose land they stole, much less the soverignty of their neighbors.
I hope that since then you've done some research about the history of the region and conflict. Hamas was not unprovoked.
The flu vaccine (pre Covid). Always been pro vax in general, just never saw the need since I never had symptomatic flu. My immune system is good enough, right?
Well, it was like a switch flipped in my brain. One day, I suddenly realized getting the shot isn't about me. If I don't vaccinate, I get the flu, and I don't have symptoms.
That makes me a carrier. I'm a disease vector. Somewhere throughout my day, I'm going to pass it on to some immunocompromised person, and I will be the reason someone's grandma doesn't make it for the holidays.
"Just the flu" still kills hundreds of thousands of people every year.
I lost a lot of respect for a coworker over this.
This was pre pandemic. They brought a nurse into the office to give everyone who wanted a flu vaccine. She wouldn't do it.
I said to her that if she got the flu, she'd probably live, but she'd also pass it on to other people. She'd be contagious before she knew she was sick, so she might be on the subway and infect a bunch of vulnerable people. Old ladies. Little babies. Anyone.
She was like no that's not how it works. That's not going to happen.
I was like, why not? In what way is that not how it works?
"I'll just stay home if I'm sick"
"What about when you're contagious and don't realize? Or if it hits when you're already at work?"
"That won't happen"
Just denial.
Can't convince people with facts. You have to play on their emotions. Make them feel good about themselves, or reinforce something they believe in. I can't always figure out how to do that
Wait, does the flu vaccine actually work like that? I didn't kmow it did anything to dampen transmission. I've never gotten it because I have such intense needle phobia it didn't seem worth it, but if this is true, then it has more benefits than I realized and that kinda changed the calculus a little
Yes, vaccination primarily reduces odds of infection. No infection = no transmission. Secondarily, vaccination reduces the symptoms of an active infection if you get one anyways.
It's basically a numbers game. With a vaccine the flu can't spread through your body because you have immunity. Meaning your body can fight of the flu so you don't get sick/have symptoms (or at least all of that is greatly diminished). Since the flu can't spread in your body, there is less flu in you for you to spread to others.
So more people vaccinated means less viral load in the community which means less people spreading and therefore getting the flu.
I guess that does kinda make sense, less viral load in the commumity = better. I always thought that, because it might only protect against 80% of the flu strains out there (or however good we guess for the season), that herd immunity can't be achieved and there was no point
I definitely never heard of it presented as a measure to protect people around me
No. This person is clueless. vaccines don't prevent you from catching a disease. they simple allow your immune system to deal with it better. the flu vaccine means when you do get the flu it will more like cold.
you are getting sick all the time, it's just that your immune system works well against things it knows. you only get sick sick when you encounter a bug that your immune system hasn't ID'd and can't fight.
you can still spread viruses and bacteria to other people even without symptoms. you are doing it all the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
Stop spreading antivax pseudoscience
When your immune system kicks a virus out, you don't catch the disease.
I am a pharmacist and have vaccinated thousands of people. I am always impressed when someone listens to the reasons why a flu shot is an important civic duty and decides to get one when they haven't previously.
The Spanish Flu of 1918 killed between 1-5% of the world population. For perspective, COVID-19 killed about 0.1%. Consider a pandemic that was 10 to 50x (!!!) the effects of COVID and specifically killed young people from the ages of 20-40.
Get your flu shot.
This is mine too. Pre covid, my thought process was "I'm young and healthy and have had the flu twice in the last 15 years, I'd rather save the shots for someone who needs them, not me! I'll just keep working my retail job and going to school even if I'm a little achey and sniffly, I can tough it out!"
Now I get them both every year. I still kinda feel like I'm taking a shot away from someone who needs it more, but I'm just trying to do my part!
You never get symptomatic flu? Can you please get to yourself to the nearest research hospital and get started on the genetic immunity or whatever it is you have. You may be the key for saving millions of lives and untold suffering.
A large portion of the population have immune systems that keep them from having symptoms of common diseases, or symptoms so mild don't notice. That's part of why transmission rates aren't 100%.
Only 1 in 200 people get the flu each year. Lots of people never catch the flu in their life. Flu is pretty rare compared to the common cold.
1 in 200? No. Funny how the ones who don't provide sources are the ones who spread nonsense.
1 Billion people a year get it. That is roughly 1 in 8.
Of these 3-5 million get severe illness, and out of that you get roughly 300-600k deaths.
Oh, you know what? I misread the statistics site and read NSW's rate as the entire country's. It's actually around one in 100
https://immunisationcoalition.org.au/influenza-statistics/
There have been 254,485 notifications of laboratory confirmed influenza reported to the NNDSS in the year to 9 November 2026.
With a population of 27 million, that's one in 100.
The reason it's 1 in 100 in this country, and 1 in 8 worldwide, is because of our great healthcare system and protective social determinants of health, like nutrition and daily hygiene.
Since this is Lemmy, I assumed most people commenting would be from rich countries like Australia, so an Australian statistic would have better applicability to this population than a global statistic.
If I don’t vaccinate, I get the flu, and I don’t have symptoms.
That makes me a carrier. I’m a disease vector.
This is flawed. Vaccinated people clear quicker if they do get it; and asymptomatic people aren't spreaders. This is just 'shedder' bullshit, and you'd benefit from re-examining it or consulting someone with a relevant degree.
User says they're all for vaccines now
Accuse them of being antivaxxer
???
Will say it's kinda funny seeing a word created in ignorance used itself in further ignorance.
Like, the three medical doctors and two pharmacists that told me this?
you can spread diseases with being asymtopatic. it very much depends on the strain. people with the covid vaccine could still get covid and spread covid.
it's just that with the vaccine the risk of dying from it was gone, which is predominately for older adults.
we never gave covid vaccine to kids because it was no threat to them.
but OP here is very confident in their delusional understanding of how a vaccine works and what it is. and thinks it's a 'cure' for a disease. because they have a vastly oversimplified idea that is factually wrong.
Noisemakers in electric cars. I thought it was a conspiracy of the incumbent manufacturers to make EVs as shitty as ICE cars. But I've had plenty of situations where people were unaware that I was driving up to them and that's not a good thing. Just to be clear, I don't expect pedestrians to jump out of the way when I come along with my car but situational awareness is an important factor for avoiding accidents.
That noise is awful. We're in the fucking future, I want my car to sound like the Jetsons'
I watched a YouTube video from a blind creator. She mentioned how scary EVs were in parking lots. She just had much less time to react to them compared to ICE cars. I don't mind the spooky hum my car makes so much since then
same tbh. the correct answer is no cars. i still think evs are better to have around than ice cars, but an oversized murder machine shouldn't be the primary mode of transport, and it will always need to announce its presence.
road noise along major roads is mostly tire noise anyway, and evs still have tires
People and animals walk out in front of my noise-making EV all the time. It really needs a bicycle bell or pedestrian horn or something. Maybe it’s the frequency of the sound. People just don’t seem to realize it’s a car right there the way they do with ICE.
Without personal experience I still say no. The world is loud enough.
I hear them all the time, they seem to make the same amount of noise as a ICE, unless it's a big engine truck/sports car.
This is mainly relevant in parking spaces. My car is basically completely silent when I'm going below 20 kph or so.
Some of the electric cars have artificial noise that is far, far louder than any combustion engine. There is one that sounds like a spaceship hum from the movies that I can hear in my apartment despite not reallly hearing any ICE engines other than delivery trucks.
Whoever designed that one went overboard.
they aren't though... all i can hear when they are on is the loud whirrring of the electronic motors. i like of hate it tbh, regular cars aren't as loud to me.
I used to think US police were probably good guys making the right call most of the time. When something fishy hit the news I tended to think "they must have had a reason."
Then there was the killing of Walter Scott.
That put a crack in it for me, but it was 2020 that really spun me the rest of the way around. And not just George Floyd himself. It was how police conducted themselves during the protests - every day I saw clips of cops escalating or being brutal to protesters. And several more high profile cases of police brutality happened during the same time. I admit I can't remember a lot of the names now but I remember them - the kid with the sandwich shot in the back as he tried to enter his home, the guy with the phone in his hand shot in his friend's garage, the old woman who had her arm dislocated and was then mocked while the cops replayed the video and bragged about it. And others... And always it was that the cops were shown to be liars by video evidence.
I ended 2020 with the view that I believe nothing cops say about any situation without video evidence to back them up. I will never again assume they "must have had a reason" or assume they are making a good faith effort to be truthful. It's been far too consistent that every time there is a controversy, a video makes liars out of them.
Used to be a Mulder. Now I'm a Scully.
Alien life, although likely to exist somewhere out there (Its quite literally mathematically impossible for it NOT to) in some form, even if microscopic.
But it has never and will never pop by for a visit. Its never been here. And has no reason to ever come here.
A civilisation that is technologically capable of making the trip is, by default, also technologically advanced enough to not need anything from some hostile primates on a malfunctioning planet.
Aren't we kinda capable of going to another solar system? Multiple generations of travel perhaps, and at an extreme cost. But with technology we have today it could potentially be possible.
So, does that mean they would have to be vastly more advanced than us?
Although it probably is a fairly narrow band of development. That said we have no idea the speed of development another species would be capable of compared to us.
We are no where near being capable of that.
Using a laser beam to push a solar sail dragging a mini probe behind it (which is the closest thing as are even relatively close to) is a far far far cry from having the self-sustaining life-support technology to last the centuries it would take to get there.
The only way a "human" will ever experience a different solar system or galaxy is if we do reach singularity, and decide to copy conscience to programing and send it into space. This tech will eventually exist. Maybe, and way down the line. Space distance is beyond the contemplation of understanding. The thing we launched in 1978 is 1 light DAY from earth. The single closest star is Proxima Centauri and it is 4.25 light years away.
A computer program version of some future scientist could go into sleep mode for the duration of the flight and wake up in orbit in 71,000 years. (At voyager speed. Will likely be faster once that tech is around.)
Not to mention every bit of mass matters and getting up to speed is ludicrous. See Project Orion
no, thats sci-fi. we would be travelling near relativistic speeds if we want to do that, but we are subject to things like time dilation. this was always a trope in sub-ftl travel(travelling close to speed of light, but the time effects is so wierd. you arnt actually doing the whole 10s of thousands of years in our perspective, but to the passengers, it takes less time.
also we dont have FTL, thats pure scifi(its almost always involved bypassing the speed of light as to not violate that universal constant, usually its interdiminesional travel. trek has several methods, warp which is just spatial manipulation to move the vessel across space, transwarp/voth/vortex, which is interdimensional travel to by pass the speed of light, most others are using teleportation which is not truel ftl movement, but its considered ftl.
but still curious to study, probably using deep space probes. in trek, the vulcans wouldve never even cared or noticed if cochrane never developed the first warp vessel. eventhough they visited earth in the past, they dont dint do first contact until much later. also the potential of inteference in natural development of a species.
That progress is inevitable.
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Israel.
I used to support Israel, until I heard about them executing children in Gaza.
Important reminder to everyone that Gaza is still under an illegal embargo than the UN called a crime against humanity back in 2020. Still no international observers allowed in. And they've just dropped some more bombs on Gaza earlier this week, killing a bunch of civilians, including a hospital bombed on November 13th where they killed 6
And keep in mind that according to Israel's own defence ministry, they were limiting the calories entering Gaza for many years to "keep Gaza's economy on the brink of collapse", while simultaneously openly funding Hamas
Same, to be fair I was more or less ignorant until Oct 7, then about Oct 8th I realized just how fucking awful israel is
and the sheer amount of propaganda(post-oct7 2023) they tried to forced through social media, MSMs, especially on reddit. if they dint tried so hard to do that, i think people would be blisfully ignorant. also they timed the attack in time for the election season to help trump win.
that has to do with MSMs never reporting israel in a bad light, its always Hamas did this to israel, or that. and then you realized most of the msm's politicians are practically captured by israel via epstein honeypots.
People are inherently good.
Then COVID happened.
This one I still question. I've had so many people help me in life. Buy me gifts, tyres, games, get me jobs, apartments, take me to work, cheer me up, stick their necks out for me, etc. Some of those people we're hardcore killers. So I'm not sure what to think.
I reassure you, only in the USA covid raised such hysterical reactions.
That's just not true. There where anti mask protests and similarily stupid things in a lot of places. Here they went on the street wearing cow bells for some reason. The 'how dare you inconvenience me to wear a mask just to potentially save a life' thing happened in most european countries.
We made Covid infected people drink cow urine, insanity was a worldwide phenomenon.
Universal healthcare and confederate history in the South.
When the Obamacare talks started I thought it was a terrible idea because all I’d heard was how has the government was and didn’t know how bad healthcare and insurance were. Now I think universal healthcare is a great idea, but I still think we’re dumb for trying for it at the federal level. California is as wealthy and populous as Canada and it makes a lot more sense for them to go their own way and have like minded states follow than to try and convince states like Florida it’s a good idea.
Confederacy in the south is weird. I was raised learning about the biased southern version, calling it the war of northern aggression, going to battle re-enactments and daughters of the confederacy get togethers. It wasn’t until I looked into the real history on my own that I discovered how terrible the South was, that they fired the first shot and most importantly that the whole celebration of the souths history started late in the 1900s as a rascist response to try and white wash history.
When I first learned that people were transitioning their gender, I was very much "live and let live," but took exception at having to call people their preferred pronoun. It seemed like a rigged game to me, like they wanted you to guess at what their gender is, and if you got it wrong, you're a bigot.
Then my wife was like "what harm does it do to call them what they prefer?"
And I thought about all the hurtful names people teased me with at school, and how I wished they would've just called me by my name.
So I said "OK," and that was that. It hasn't been as hard as I thought to recognize what people wish to be called. Unless you're dealing with a "they/them," then they gotta tell you. Or if you're dealing with a butch lesbian that dresses boy-ish. On those occasions, I just try not to use any pronouns or talk to them extensively for fear of messing up.
like they wanted you to guess at what their gender is, and if you got it wrong, you're a bigot.
FWIW, for anyone else who has these sorts of thoughts, most people trans/nonbinary people I've met don't tend to get particularly hung up on it if you guess wrong.
They live in the same world you do, they own mirrors, they know how they look, and in a lot of cases they probably spend a whole lot more time agonizing over how they look than anyone else because they're worrying about whether or not they can pass.
Just take your best guess and if they or someone else corrects you, just apologize and try to do better. You're probably gonna fuck up, you have a lifetime of indoctrination in the gender binary to unlearn. It happens. I have a friend who's been dating a nonbinary person for years and occasionally still messes up and uses the wrong pronouns, it happens. The femboy wearing a skirt probably isn't gonna be offended no matter what pronouns you use for them. The butch lesbian with a buzz cut has probably already been mistaken for a guy 7 times today, it's nothing new. Trans and non-binary people have probably spent most of their life using pronouns they don't like, and sure they'd prefer you use the right ones, but it's nothing new to them.
If you're unsure when you meet someone and they don't broach the subject off the bat, go ahead and spell out your own pronouns so they can feel safe to do the same.
Or just stick to they/them. It's a little awkward sometimes, it takes some getting used to, but the only people I've ever seen get offended by it are bigots who I don't mind offending anyway.
Sure, there's some subset of the community that gets really huffy about it, and those people are just garden variety assholes who happen to be trans/nonbinary. They're basically the same as the cis Karen type who for some reason gets a stick up her ass about not wanting to be called "ma'am," or the guy who insists on correcting you that it's "Doctor such-and-such" if you dare to refer to him as "mister." It doesn't mean you should go ahead and ignore their preference, but don't put too much stock in their opinions either.
I've felt like this. You already call people the name they asked you to call them, it's like 3 extra brain cells work to just call them what they ask, way too much effort to mess with them or cause animosity.
While transitioning I'm sure they understand there will be genuine mixups.
My kids started saying "it's not that deep" and seems to really fit here.
I just don't use pronouns if I'm not sure, because I've never seen anger on the level of someone whom I've inadvertently misgendered, and it doesn't seem to cross people's minds that maybe I'm not a mind reader.
Gender neutral language is just best overall in this scenario.
I just don’t use pronouns if I’m not sure
Assuming this means avoiding gendered pronouns, I agree.
In a vacuum, theoretically, our language would simply be easier without gendered pronouns. But it would be idealistic for me to therefore assert everyone should just always use neutral pronouns and be alright with that. I know some people who intentionally signal their gender feel invalidated by neutral language, so it would be insensitive and pointless for me to disrespect their preference.
In all the societies I'm in, my approach is to default to neutral unless/until someone specifies preferred pronouns or clearly indicates their gender. I haven't had anyone, progressive nor reactionary, object to this behavior.
Check these fields on a common job application form. Top row? Fine. The rest? I'm not taking that person seriously.

"I'm a special little elf and I insist you address me as such."
Yeah I really try to be inclusive but I'm with you here, that shit is whack. You're not a fucking bionicle. We're all trying our best to be nice to you and your new identity, but if you ask me to call you a fairy, I'm going to laugh in your face. I'll feel bad about it later, probably, but I will do a spit-take in the moment.
At this point it gets so specific that I don't get how it is different to a name.
I'm already bad at remembering names so that is just another layer.
I wish just for one that you can use on anybody and it is right.
literally yesterday a book changed my mind about how much alcohol I'm comfortable consuming
since I've started getting horrible hangovers in my 30s I've limited myself to 1-2 drinks in one evening, once a month or so, and that worked for me
the book detailed how alcohol absolutely wrecks your sleep. yeah i think I'm done drinking for the rest of my life now lol
Congratulations. You have had one of the healthiest epiphanies you will ever have. I relate very much, although I am probably twice your age. I wish I had that realization 30 years ago.
If you ever have a strong urge to drink again, if it's legal where you are, a light dose of THC might satisfy you instead. It's not for everyone, but that's worked very well for me.
Again, congratulations. Getting away from alcohol is a move so healthy, you should be proud of yourself for it.
thanks :]
ah, i enjoyed THC when I got to try it in a legal state. sadly psychosis runs in my family and I decided even that much fun wasn't worth the risk
I'm very lucky I'm nerdy enough to get "high" off of just goofing around with friends (and lucky I have the friends!)
Ok I’ll be the one. What book?
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