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[–] 117 points 22 hours ago (86 children)

i first heard of a corkage fee this summer and it weirded me the heck out. what do you mean people bring their own bottle to restaurants? isn't the point of those kinds of places that they select a wine that goes well with the food?

not that i can even drink wine but still...

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  • [–] 44 points 22 hours ago (22 children)

    Sometimes people will bring a bottle from a particular year (year they got married on a big anniversary date) or will have some other particular sentimental reasoning for this, so it’s not very often.

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  • [–] 12 points 22 hours ago (21 children)

    sure but if it doesn't happen very often there's no real reason to charge for it?

    maybe it's differing alcohol cultures, idk. according to some bullshit map i saw years ago i live in the "vodka belt", so maybe i'm too drunk off of ambient fumes to get it.

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  • [–] 32 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

    Yes but the up-charge on wine is absolutely obscene and can frequently be more than what they earn on the food. Additionally, the places that can get away with this are the kind of places where arguing about what would be a relatively small charge on the bill would be so incredibly awkward that you wouldn’t dare.

    So it’s extortion basically, but fancy.

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  • [–] 5 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

    so the reason i haven't seen it is probably the alcohol tax that adds 50€/liter of pure ethanol to every beverage. it's just not useful here.

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  • [–] 4 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

    wait.

    as in, every beverage has 50£ worth of pure ethanol added to it? if so..... no wonder Slavs are always depicted as drunk off their asses LOL

    or is it a 50£ per litre of pure ethanol on each pallet of alcoholic beverages (eg... 2l of pure ethanol adds 100£ of tax to the pallet price)?

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  • [–] 4 points 19 hours ago* (6 children)

    a 10% ABV half-litre bottle will have 2.5€ in tax added to its price for the ethanol content.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago (5 children)

    that is...... so incredibly -strange-.

    was this added to encourage citizens to homebrew their own alchohol, or something? thats about the only reason I could think of...

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

    homebrewing is very much illegal. this nation historically has a drinking problem.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child)
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    phew, dodged a bullet there, thanks danskjävel :P

    i've read that before the alcohol monopoly laws there were about 200k distilleries in sweden which is one for every 25 people in 1910. even after the restrictions were put in place, the limit for a single meal was three schnappses ("två vita och en brun") totalling 15cl of 40-60% abv liquor. that was considered the minimum they could get away with implementing. and people still cheated the system to get double rations. i can only assume the norwegians went through something similar.

    Edit: almost forgot to mention; wine was unrestricted during that time. no rationing.

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  • [–] 10 points 17 hours ago* (3 children)

    Here's a non-wine related thing often charged by restaurants: a cake-cutting fee. The restaurant offers desserts which you won't be buying, and yet they are supplying you with plates and forks, and they will keep your cake safe in the kitchen until dessert, bring it out to be admired with maybe candles and a song, or a toast to the happy couple, then they'll cut and plate and pass the slices, and afterwards they'll wash the dishes. So they charge a fee to pay for the people and supplies.

    We had a birthday party at a sushi train restaurant and brought a rainbow cake. We'd agreed to pay $20 or something over the total of all the sushi everyone ate. They turned down the lights and sent out the cake as individual slices on individual plates each with a lit candle flickering on it, and the teenagers loved it, which is pretty hard to do because teenagers.

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  • [–] 10 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

    If there was no charge then everyone would bring their own, and they would have to start charging more for the food to make up for the loss.

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  • [–] -3 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

    What loss? They can lose something that they didn't had in the first place.

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  • [–] 5 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    Like it or not, alcohol sales subsidize their income. The markup is substantial.

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  • [–] -3 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    And that still doesn't justifies the literal extortion of their clients.

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  • [–] 31 points 19 hours ago (10 children)

    If you think about it, there are hundreds of thousands of combinations of wine labels and vintages from thousands of producers. Some people who collect the wine and store it at home will want to enjoy the wine they have with a professionally prepared meal, and will bring that wine to a restaurant, and enjoy the entire service aspect of it (pouring into nice glasses, etc.).

    It doesn't make much sense for ordinary bottles of wine. So the people who do this usually bring special, hard to find, significantly aged, or sentimental bottles. And because the restaurant still provides the service of opening and pouring the wine into nice glasses that they'll clean, there's usually a per bottle charge added to the bill.

    So it's not super common, just also not super rare, either.

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  • [–] 3 points 19 hours ago (9 children)

    but why would you bring that kind of wine to an edinburgh curry house (which is where i first saw it mentioned)

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago

    Generally this is done for cost reasons by the customer. Wine in restaurants is expensive, corkage doesn't make up the difference, so people looking to save some money will bring their own, pay the fee and still come out on top. Fancy restaurants with sommeliers don't advertise this (idk if that means they don't do it though)

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  • [–] [S] 75 points 22 hours ago (13 children)

    not that i can even drink wine

    Because of your drinking problem?

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  • [–] 65 points 22 hours ago (12 children)

    no because the sulphides combine with my medication to give me turbo-hangovers after a quarter of a glass.

    but the airplane explanation is funnier so yeah, it's that

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  • [–] 39 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

    Then you might bring your own sulphide free wine and pay the corkage fee.

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  • [–] 6 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

    i feel like that's more of an allergy thing than a preference thing though.

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  • [–] 7 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

    There's a spray/drops you can use to remove sulfides in wine

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

    the second reason i don't drink wine is that it tastes like ass

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    I also thought that I was really intolerant of sulfites, as most red wine gives me a headache directly, but it doesn't seem to be just that...

    One way I noticed this was that my boss's favorite beer is Breznak, and so when he gave me a can as my first drink after-work, I got immediately headached, despite that it should have pretty low levels of sulfites. And then I made the connection a couple weeks later when the same thing happened. So the third time he wanted to hang after work, I took some macro lagers with me (Norrlands Guld), and I drank several without problems.

    I can even drink a ton of vodka and not have a headache the next day... but if you give me a half glass of red wine or many different kinds of beer, I immediately get the worst headaches. I wish I knew why.

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

    So is it only wine that messes you up? It'd be interesting to know if you get any negative reactions from Breznak for example next time you're at Systembolaget (if you even drink, I dunno)

    No one ever believes me; they genuinely seem to think I get hungover even if I drink just a single beer. Then I can drink them under the table with any kind of spirits, and have no hangover the next day.

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  • [–] 17 points 16 hours ago (22 children)

    Ayyyy I do this a lot if I don't know the place. I've spent a lot of time and effort figuring out what I like and have a collection to match my preferences.

    If they have the styles and regions I like I order off menu, if not I got mine. $30 corkage is reasonable for a decent restaurant, I know a dive bar that does $10 and a bunch of us go there for snacks and to bust out bottles to share.

    All good bottles should be shared.

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  • [–] 9 points 15 hours ago (14 children)

    So if I'm following you correctly, you bring a bottle to a restaurant and pay them to pull the cork and I guess give you glasses?

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  • [–] 9 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

    And chill and decant if they're fancy.

    Protip, boxed wine doesn't have a cork, so they can't charge you for de-corking it.

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  • [–] 17 points 13 hours ago* (3 children)

    The absolute BALLS you need to go into a place that likely has a dress code and slam a box of wine on the table when they ask what you'd like to drink.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    It's a fee for them to serve the drinks you supplied on their premises. You don't get to use their premises and wait staff for free just because you supplied the drinks.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago (1 child)

    You are already paying for the food, aren't you?

    So it isn't free.

    And you don't need wait staff to open your own bottle either.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 hours ago

    You know there are costs associated with serving alcohol in an establishment right?

    Also, a lot of bars and restaurants make nearly zero margin on their food. They stay afloat with the sale of alcohol.

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  • [–] 4 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

    13 and angry mommy and daddy don't love you? Or just an angry internet loser?

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  • [–] 5 points 10 hours ago

    I've only seen it in practice when someone is throwing a large party and wants to bring their own cheaper wine. It can even be the exact same wine.

    Paying the full restaurant markup on the wine can be excessive if you hold a wedding for 70 people and if you can find it much cheaper from tax free or bulk purchase. It would still make sense to pay the corkage fee then.

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

    Many cigar lounges will do the same if you want to smoke cigars you got elsewhere at their lounge.

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

    that's even weirder, because as far as i understand it, the things that pair well with cigars are in general not things you need to have at specific places.

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  • [–] 1 point 19 hours ago (2 children)

    It's not really about the pairing, if these places allow liquor they usually have a nice selection or is byob. Many cigar shops only carry certain brands, and many cigars aren't meant to be smoked when you buy them, but to be aged.

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  • [–] 1 point 16 hours ago (4 children)

    I do it because my partner and I don't drink but we still like to feel fancy and have bubbly when we go out for anniversaries and whatnot. Especially in a group setting, I'm happy to pay the fee to not have people bring attention to us not drinking by having our own NA bubbly.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago (3 children)

    the restaurants don't have non-alcoholic alternatives where you live?

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    that's a shame, there are some really good ones nowadays. don't think i've been to a place without an alternative in years.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 hours ago

    We often go out for NA brews and all our local bars have NA beer which are pretty good. None of our local breweries seem to have anything NA though, other than Root Beer. It's disappointing, I prefer to shop local but it seems like everyone ships in from cross country.

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  • [–] 47 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    To the baby: "Excellent vintage. You'll want to make sure those nips aerate before enjoying so they are fully erect."

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  • [–] 10 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

    I've been to some restaurants where they don't charge a corkage fee as long as they don't sell the wine you bring.

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