It is a good sign that a newcomer is broadcasting how the sausage is made rather than falling into line. I hope all these newly elected dems support each other and hold the line against the establishment.
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Lean over and whisper in their ear, “the people are coming. Fuck you.”
Then bite off the lobe.
He should expose them ao people do not vote for them next time
They’re gonna make it very very obvious who they are in the next 2-4 years.
AIPAC is already making it obvious.
They are now trying to be less obvious.
the announcement that it would stop directly backing candidates going forward was seen as tacit recognition that Aipac’s open support risked hurting pro-Israel candidates more than it helped them.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/oct/22/aipac-politics-endorsements-israel
AIPAC has rebranded as the "United Democracy Project" PAC.
For speaker yes
for primary yes
for general no if he wins again like this year then we need him to win the general next time as well.
Fuck that. Expose and vilify every piece of shit you can. I had almost no faith that our elections weren't compromised in a severe way. These results gave me hope and I'm a pessimistic piece of shit. We need to be loud. Name, shame, expose, get them the fuck out, investigated, and convicted. Sick of the "if you suck me I won't fuck you" game. No. No more. Pedophiles out, investigated, mulched. AIPAC and all supporters the fuck out. Citizens United eliminated. That's just to start.
I disagree. If there is such a strong dem majority in the house, then fuck it, let the GOP have Jeffries' seat. If they refuse to listen to us saying to not make him speaker this time, then let's make him unemployed next election. He's a greedy coward and he needs to either step to the side or fuck off for good.
Yeah we have a wide enough margin now that we can afford a few strategic sacrifices, especially if it means getting someone out of the way for new leadership to come take their place.
If we back milquetoast centrist leadership unconditionally, we'll lose the whole margin anyway.
There will never, ever, under any circumstance, be an instance where a DNC is as bad as a GOP. We need the GOP to have zero seats before we can put a single Democrat on the chopping block in the generals.
I'm sorry, I don't think you picked up what the other guy was saying. He's saying that "there's no dnc now... there's the people and there's the door".
It's time for the dnc to figure out if aipac or the people are buttering their toast.
All the more reason to not support Jeffries.
Dear NYC DSA, it's time to primary Jeffries.
At present, the only person who could possibly pull that off is Mamdani, if he wants it.
Which, if we got Mamdani ousting Jeffries and AOC ousting Schumer in 2028, that would be massive.
Depends which tree Mamdani wants to scale from here — Federal, or State (his journey ending with Governor and no further). Alternatively, he could choose to eye Gilibrand's Senate seat. Nice bit of redemption for how she snubbed him too.
I seem to recall that state governors have won the presidency.
Yes but Mandani cannot be President, unfortunately.
Constitutionally, naturalized citizens cannot be President.
El-Sayed, however, can.
Ah, I didn't even consider that because I don't generally think of people in those terms.
Yes he can't be president, but no reason he can't be governor of New York for 2 terms and then become senator. He's young enough to do 2 terms as mayor, 2 terms as governor, and still enter the senate significantly younger than the average age
Yeah absolutely. I just wonder if when Republicans are at their weakest and AOC is about to make a move if he wouldn't have some synergistic amplification in the timing of his own move in 2028. Governors have use (thanks to them, Dems may be able to gut the electoral college), but personally I'd rather be a US Senator if the path to the Presidency is closed.
He was elected this year. His primary opponent dropped out after a DSA internal vote. He's starting a whole new term.
Every house rep is starting a whole new term
Not exactly, no, US Congressmen terms start and end on different years. For example, of the 53 GOP Senators only 20 were up for reelection in 2026.
Therefor it's worth noting that Jeffries WAS up for reelection in 2026.
EDIT: No, I'm wrong, just checked and every House Rep was up for election, neat. They only have 2 year terms nationwide.
It's understandable. You're thinking of senators, who are divided into three classes with elections every two years. These Senate elections are staggered in such a way that one state never has both senators up for re-election at the same time.
Leonard, who flipped Ohio’s heavily Republican 15th Congressional District blue last Tuesday, said he told senior party leaders that, to win his support, Jeffries would have to meet with him and his constituents to discuss two priorities. One was a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United, the 2010 US Supreme Court ruling that struck down restrictions on independent election spending by corporations and unions. The other was ending “US support for the war in Iran and the country, Israel, that led us into it.”
In a video covered by Drop Site News, Leonard said the unnamed party leaders he met with responded with threats that felt like “the stuff you see in the movies.”
I went from not supporting Jeffries to flat out hating the sob. What a pile of traitorous shit. Schumer too. Asswipes.
How does someone like Jeffries with absolutely no charisma get into politics let alone become the head of Dem House?
It's probably because he's boring that he got the nod. I bet boring ones get picked because they don't threaten any of the actually charismatic politicians who have ambitions for higher office.
And also because doing the job takes so much effort (like herding cats on steroids, presumably) that politicians who want to go places don't want to do it in the first place, which again favors boring, silent workhorse types.
I mean, how many party leaders from either the House or the Senate have actually been charismatic, compelling figures? Schumer, Jeffries, McCarthy, Boehner, Pelosi, some whose names I can't even remember? None of them exactly oozed charisma.
Oh so now they're threatening members to do as they're told? That isn't very "democratic" leadership, is it? 🤔 ...
No wonder Schumer and Jeffries have felt so confident about the seats.
From the article: "Roughly 40 Democrats would need to vote for someone else in order to prevent Jeffries from taking the gavel."
From another article: "Democrats have now flipped over 40 House seats."
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That's the same thing in this conversation. There needs to be a majority of the House to vote for the Speaker, and the Republicans won't vote for a Democratic Speaker, so that means 40 Dems need to defect in order to dethrone Jeffries.
Yeah but how many will hold their vote against Jeffries? You count AOC out, can't believe she even thinking of running for president. She has no spin and sadly not the squad she once was.
To be fair, she is interviewed in OP, she does give an out that "there needs to be a race" as a practical matter to get to an alternative. She's only saying that she has no option today.
Doesn't matter the choice is being made on the 18th and 19th and the new Congress that was elected will not be given a voice or vote who will be in leadership.
From https://www.congresscountdown.com/info/speaker-election
The Speaker of the House is elected by the full House on the first day of every new Congress
If the new members couldn't vote, there would be no reason for them to be threatening Don Leonard. I had to look up how it works because there's a lot of confusing statements in different news articles. The process is different between the House (all members vote) and Senate (each party elects their own majority leader), but in both cases the newly elected members will also be voting, once the new session starts in January with the new Congress.
end Citizens United
That's the big one. The people running the party are going to defend their nut.
Congress needs an enema. And an expansion. And the abolishment of the senate. And proportional representation with STAR (or similar) voting. One step at a time, I suppose. Do the good thing, Congressman; fuck what the others think.
What do we do with traitors? Jeffries is a fucking traitor who wants to hand us right back to the fascists. What do we do with him? Do we have absolutely no heroes?
Israel has been expending all of its political capital since O7. It's now almost entirely gone.
You see before this time, Democrats had a strong Jewish caucus in their coalition who equated support for Israel as opposition to antisemitism; same with the converse.
This meant that Israel mostly through AIPAC could bully Democrats by forcing a pledge of fealty in order to get not only their endorsement, but their money, and also an assurance they wouldn't accuse them of being an antisemite and or supporting their opponent.
Cori Bush's primary loss is textbook of this.
But now the tables are turning. The baggage is now associating with Israel and AIPAC. The cost of being tied to them is worse than the consequences of their opposition. Their ability to drive a wedge is diminishing greatly.
The more this is brought out in public, the better.
Republican tactics don’t look good on democrats.
I need names Donnie. Name the names
Agreed. I need to know where to donate my $$ in 2 years to primary the hell out of these GOP light types.
Yeah, record these conversations. Save the emails and text messages.
My guess is they are anonymous. Probably anonymous internet phone calls or calls from a burner phone.
Get rid of the bully's position of power or accept you will never be free of his demands and retaliation.
Fix it. Or allow it to continue.
That's their option.
Does citizen's united need a constitutional ammendment to overturn?
I guess the ruling is that 1st amendement money is speech. But that means money is lies, terrorism, oppression, fraud, fascism or abridgement of other constitutional rights. We already view "yelling fire in a crowded theater" to not be protected speech. Why should well funded "The theater is completely fine and greatest theater in history of time" lie be protected speech?
They overturned Roe just because they felt like it. "Settled law" is now utterly meaningless. You just need the right justices.
There is already a proposed constitutional amendment in the works to do just that, among various other measures at the state level, and it has already been ratified by twenty-five of the necessary thirty-eight states necessary to pass. Here's the text of the proposed amendment:
Section 1. We the People have compelling sovereign interests in the freedom of speech, representative self-government, federalism, the integrity of the electoral process, and the political equality of natural persons.
Section 2. Nothing in this Constitution shall be construed to forbid Congress or the States, within their respective jurisdictions, from reasonably regulating and limiting contributions and spending in campaigns, elections, or ballot measures.
Section 3. Congress and the States shall have the power to implement and enforce this article by appropriate legislation and may distinguish between natural persons and artificial entities, including by prohibiting artificial entities from raising and spending money in campaigns, elections, or ballot measures.
thank you,
Amendments are not vetoable, but 2/3rds of both chambers required to propose. Then 38 states need both legislatures to vote for it. (50%). No governor veto.
already been ratified by twenty-five of the necessary thirty-eight states
The non binding state resolutions are promising, but ratification happens only after congress proposes amendment.
This is significantly related to the Israel first rule over America issue, and congressional leadership devoted to perpetuating it. Money failed this mid term, and most Americans understand Israel's war on Iran is a US collapse threat. But unlimited Israel money still wins/keeps some politicians for them.
They'll never fight for us as hard as they fight for Isreal.
Then you'll just have to go through living hell if you want to make a difference for our country. Unless you're a coward.
Damn, not even any sympathy or appreciation just "sacrifice yourself for me or you suck"?
Yes. They wanted to serve the people now do it. I've no sympathy, they asked to be there now do the thing we elected you there for.
I would invite them all to a meeting to discuss that topic and ask them to repeat any threats in person, and then I would laugh loudly in their faces like maniac
You don't understand the power the Democratic leadership have. They literally can make these new members life hell and have no problem telling them so on fucking house floor. We need to get rid of the leadership of the DNC. And fuck these unnamed shit. He needs to name and shame and we should be protesting at their offices and homes.
The congressional black caucus and party leadership has spent more than a decade setting him up for the job, deliberately pulling strings to ensure he was in the room with the right people. He was picked as a freshman to be a future speaker, they aren’t going to go with an alternative due to the sunk cost fallacy.
Grow a fucking spine. we elected all of you assholes to fight for us, not to sit there and fucking be turned into one of them vampires.
Fucking knew it! Leeja Miller did a video on how the leader are chosen, and when mention it behind close doors. I straight up left comment saying that bet it not a vote, but this who we are running deal with it. Democrats are not fucking Democratic at all when comes to who leads the party.
Lol they can eff off then, don't make threats those pos, they better step off is what they can do! They work for We The People so do what we want!
"Big D" is just republicans from 40 - 50 years ago now. A little token social policy, but just hand everything else to the corporations. Keep us arguing over what bathrooms people get to use while they lose every economic and policy battle.
In 2016, Bernie was looking great...until the DNC happened, he sported a black eye, and then endorsed Hillary for some unknown reason. The establishment Dems are just as corrupt as the Repubs. The only hope for America is in the new blood...because the milk's gone bad.
Trump didn't win in 2016...Hillary (and DWS) LOST.
And he should report that right to The People so we know who to primary when the time comes.
We need new leadership!
Chris Van Hollen is calling his colleagues: https://www.ms.now/news/van-hollen-schumer-senate-majority-leader-democrats
Let's get the new leadership we so desperately need!
7 calls to help replace Schumer and Jeffries:
- Call Ayanna Pressley and encourage her to run for speaker of the house. She would be a great leader in addition to being the first black speaker of the house - which eliminates Hakeem Jeffries false claim only racists oppose him.
https://pressley.house.gov/contact-us/
- Call Senator Chris Van Hollen and encourage him to run for Senate leader to oust Chuck Schumer.
https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/ Numbers at the bottom of the page
- Call your representative and urge them to support Ayanna Pressley for speaker of the house.
4 & 5) Call your senators and demand they support Chris Van Hollen and oppose Chuck Schumer for Senate leader.
http://5calls.org/issue/house-senate-leadership/
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Call Chuck Schumer and demand he step down as Senate leader: (202) 224-6542
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Call Hakeem Jeffries and demand he step down as house leader: (202) 225-5936
Repeat every day until we have new leaders.
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