“No... secretary of defense has ever been impeached for carrying out lawful military operations,” said Hegseth, who is facing impeachment for allegedly carrying out unlawful military operations.

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[–] 29 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Nazi's stuck to their guns until the noose was pulled at Nuremberg.

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  • [–] 16 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    This coward won't. He'll cry and say screech he's sorry and piss himself once there are actual consequences for the deaths he's caused all the way up until the end.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 hours ago

    And it happened before too! Ernst Kaltenbrunner!

    American psychiatrist Douglas Kelley, who spent months interviewing and evaluating the prisoners, described him as "a crybaby ...the hardness of character which marked him as an executioner had been replaced with this soft, sobbing personality", who crumbled into fits of depression, and was deeply frightened by the prospects of the trial.

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  • [–] 22 points 12 hours ago* (6 children)

    I know Trump has his pardon just waiting for a signature, but considering he violated international and Pentagon law by killing defenseless survivors, this is pretty bold to just admit mens rea for criminal conviction purposes.

    Pretty useful for sentencing too.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    A pardon can't protect Hegseth from being impeached by Congress and removed from office. It does protect him from going to jail.

    What if another country came in, kidnapped him, and delivered him to the Hague and stand trial. Trump and Hegseth made that OK to do.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago

    Trump and Hegseth made that OK to do.

    Trump escalated it, but it actually goes back to Clinton if not before. From Wikipedia:

    According to Clinton administration official Richard Clarke:

    'extraordinary renditions', were operations to apprehend terrorists abroad, usually without the knowledge of and almost always without public acknowledgment of the host government ... The first time I proposed a snatch, in 1993, the White House Counsel, Lloyd Cutler, demanded a meeting with the President to explain how it violated international law. Clinton had seemed to be siding with Cutler until Al Gore belatedly joined the meeting, having just flown overnight from South Africa. Clinton recapped the arguments on both sides for Gore: 'Lloyd says this. Dick says that.' Gore laughed and said, 'That's a no-brainer. Of course it's a violation of international law, that's why it's a covert action. The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass.'

    It escalated under Bush and continued under Obama, and now we're at a point where they've straight up abducted a head of state.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 hours ago

    Impeachment is pardon proof via the constitution. The actual limits have never been tested, but someone with gumption could argue that the crimes one has been impeached over, cannot be pardoned at all.

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  • [–] 35 points 14 hours ago

    so we have malice now, cool

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  • [–] 16 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    So he’s back to calling himself the Secretary of Defense?

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  • [–] 15 points 14 hours ago

    “Alleged”

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  • [–] 14 points 10 hours ago

    Narcissists struggle to admit fault and they're the ones hovering around trump.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 hours ago

    He will do it again. This is why we need to convict, remove, imprison, and execute before he can be pardoned.

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    Oh so he's the secretary of defense again now? Oookaayyy.

    I guess he expects to gaslight congress about how that whole "secretary of war" thing didn't totally happen?

    Mister "Maximum lethality, none of those woke international laws or rules of engagements" 🙄

    🍿🍿🍿

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  • [–] 7 points 8 hours ago

    And that's why you belong in prison

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  • [–] 3 points 14 hours ago

    Wonderful statements that could never be used against him

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago

    These guys are all such comical level evil. I keep imagining them going home finally being able to dress up like the sith lords they are.

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  • [+] -12 points 15 hours ago (19 children)

    Blowing up randos and school children with missiles has been a past time for far longer than Kegsbreath has been at the helm. Let's not act like Oh'Bomba wasn't striking school buses. Its not enough to impeach this guy. We need societal change to not be a terrorist nation to the world.

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  • [–] 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (11 children)

    I think you'd be better off stating it starts with impeaching this guy...

    We do need societal change but honestly I'm happy if we start with Hegseth.

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  • [+] -6 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

    I think we'd be better off admitting we are the world terrorists and our entire ruling class needs to go. But no, everyone got their blue wave treat, the world is magically better even though nothing has actually changed. Step up, claim your praise, dont be bashful. The blues have won and said we dont need to look back so dont.

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  • [–] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    Jesus, you're blaming the newly elected Democrats for not doing their jobs...when they can't even legally do their jobs until January. For fucks sake, stop being a doomer before they're even in office. If they still do this shit after January, then you have a right to complain. Right now though, you're blaming the side that won control but hasn't taken over yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago (6 children)

    I'm sorry, do you just want to rant?

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  • [–] 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (5 children)

    No, I want every democrat who is afraid of accountability to literally be eaten alive by the people as a appetizer before we get to republicans.

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    The zeitgeist of Lemmy never engages in good faith when its something they don't want to hear. Like you can't just blatantly trust democrats to fix everything. They were here for every step of the fuck up. This is just more smugposting.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago* (2 children)

    I have not disagreed with you a single time. Your thoughts are the zeitgeist of Lemmy...

    You seem to be arguing with yourself.

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  • [–] 2 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

    You see, actually, both sides are bad EQUALLY and do you even remember Barack HUSSEIN Obama?

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  • [–] -3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    Everyone is ready for their treats already and the dems are already acting like they ain't doing accountability because that comes back on them too. The US has always been fascists, those inside the empire just can't see it. Keep fighting if you want a fair world, but if you just wanted brunch and treats back go ahead and pat yourself on the back while the last of the Palestinians in Gaza die.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    Yes, dumbass. He was the head of the head of the DoD, he was the commander-in-chief, with full authority to appoint whoever he wanted to be secretary of defense and to overrule them, literally whenever he felt like.

    Do you not understand how the government works? Whatever happened to "The buck stops here?"

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