Anyone who looks at last night and says "voters want Democrats to work with Republicans" deserves a kick in the groin.
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I want justice you stupid fuck. Bury these fucks while you redistribute their wealth.
At the very least, we deserve our tax money back that he stole from us. Every single state secret that he sold should be monetized and redistributed.
Like I've been saying. Justice will not come from The Democratic Party. You want justice? You want change? Then do as the labor movements did in the 1920's and 1930's! Get organized, and get armed!
That's the only way to get the justice and change we deserve. Anything less than and they are just going to keep tugging our leashes.
Calling justice and accountability "getting even" is shit abusers say
Half of Congress would probably be perfectly happy caucusing with the other team. They don't care and tout whatever party line gets them paid. AIPAC and MORON-PAC (i.e. MAGA pocketbooks) have been very lucrative partnerships for them.
All I'm saying is it's probably all a dog and pony show for Jeffreys. He probably has no interest or stomach for a protracted fight when they can just coast and give some lip service.
Yeah it's always "take responsibility for your actions" whenever you do something they don't like (even if it was innocuous), but when you expect them to face repercussions for being narcissistic abusers, then suddenly it's "Don't be so vindictive! I can't believe you're holding a grudge. How petty. Revenge won't solve anything! Let it go, it's water under the bridge."
While new water continues to flow under said bridge unimpeded...
This asshole needs to go and he can take Schumer with him: Holding powerful people accountable for their numerous and wildly egregious crimes isn't "getting even".
He's right, I don't want even. I want fucking annihilation. I want to drop the hammer on these chuds so hard they can't get elected until the next century. I want them to think twice about ever doing it again. I want them scared.
And you can do that while also making life fair and affordable. These are NOT mutually exclusive goals. In fact they are very much connected.
Do both or resign ya chucklefuck.
The American people want you to prosecute the fucking criminals in office, you wet napkin
Hakeem Jeffries wants democrats to lose in 2028.
Trump is like a festering wound.
Jeffries would have you running around, treating the fever, the fatigue. Maybe managing the pain. All the other things. But he’s not dealing with the festering wound.
Ultimately everything we’re dealing with, that be would say is a priority is from the corruption and abuses of Trump, the republicans, and the oligarchs.
Nurses are great for recovery but not when you need a surgeon to cut out the root cause.
Hakeem Jeffries wants whatever the Mossad handler that implanted him in his seat wants him to want. And yes that's for democrats to lose in 2028, because Israel knows there is no world where a pro-israel democrat wins.
"The American people don’t want us to get even."
The American people beg to fucking differ.
Holding them to the law isn't getting even. It's not revenge.
Me to the cops, when I'm caught doing 120 mph in a 35: "Look, maybe you want to get even at me by throwing me in jail, but what does petty revenge accomplish? Be the bigger man here, and for the good of us all, let's just move forward."
What really pisses me off is that even by denying his framing, we're helping feed it with the subtext "but is this pursuit of accountability tinged by a desire for revenge?", which subtlely invalidates peoples' legitimate rage.
I can't speak for every US citizen, but as a citizen I can definitely say that while I don't want to get "even" I do want to see justice served. Those who have raped (literally) and pillaged their way to power need to be held accountable or we are just going to see more and more of this same crap in future administrations.
Of course, I fully expect that the pardon machine is going to be running at full tilt in the next few months and some may never be properly prosecuted, but there's plenty of dirt out there and lots of guilty parties, so lets start airing that dirty laundry, prosecuting, sanctioning, and generally making social pariahs of the fucks that got us into this mess.
Thank you for quickly establishing that you have zero inkling of what the general public actually wants, Mr. Jeffries.
He doesn't care what the general public or his constituents want. He cares about what he wants.
We should start with Hakeem Jeffries
I don't think Jeffries needs to be impeached. I think the Democratic Party to act like their name suggests and ask the voters. They are allowed to choose their own leaders any way they want, right? So instead of having a closed meeting secret vote to keep the same guy as last time, hold a non-binding referendum and mail special ballots out to every registered Democrat. Everyone can rank their top 10 and bottom 10 choices for the next Speaker of the House. They don't have to commit to going with the popular winner but they do have to publish the results, and it would look bad on the leadership if they don't pick someone in the overall top 3.
They kinda did. There has literally just been an election. Jeffries should have been primaried in it, but that never happened.
And now because of this one district we're all stuck with Jeffries. Which is the issue being talked about by uen3.
So no "kinda" and no "did". A district got to put their two cents in for him, and that's it.
With the method proposed, every other party member would get a chance to put their two cents in as well.
You're not automatically stuck with Jeffries. It's not like the winner of that district automatically becomes speaker. The House is going to vote on it, and they could vote for someone else.
Although I think there might be a risk of something really weird happening: I'm not certain about the rules, but if the entire house votes on this, it would be possible for Jeffries to become speaker with the support of a minority of Democrats and all Republicans who decide to vote for him in order to prevent a more progressive speaker. I have no idea if that's possible or likely, but it would be terrible for his credibility if it happened.
All I was saying is your statement was wrong. The only people who could gate Jeffries, didn't. And nobody else has had a chance to say otherwise, so there was no "kinda vote" in the same scope OP of this thread was talking about. Which makes OP's suggestion a valid one, imo.
Everyone please write your reps demanding they don't vote for schumer or jeffires
Already did. Just having Dems take a majority of both chambers won't mean shit if they let the old guard keep using the same stupid tactics that got us here in the first place. Now's not the time for the average constituent to fall back into oblivious complacency.
Goddamn it didn't take long for them to piss me off too. Accountability and public shame are the only things keeping fascists in check.
Yeah, last night was fun, but my wife and I knew come Wednesday morning, the corpo Dems would remind us why nothing will fundamentally change and that a red tsunami won't be too far off. 🫵
people like hakeema nd schumer, and the likes of cory, slotkin ensures there will be one. the gop and OLd guard dnc are basically codependent on each other.
3 party system minimum
So let me get this straight. They shit on our right to due process, they throw people into camps without said due process, they kill people in broad daylight. But there is no priority for impeachment or justice....
So this is the rope I gave them to hang themselves with by voting blue. This is why I said voting was not going to be enough, and why we cannot stop putting pressure on our politicians even if some of the blue need to be taken to the wood chipper like all of the reds need to be,
Be fucking angry, this should be infuriating.
Even framing it as "getting even" is so goddamn disingenuous
A narcissist will tell you that being held accountable for their actions is the same thing as punishing them, it’s not.
Every time Democrats gain power, the party's leadership steps in to waste every opportunity.
Y’all had 7 republican senators cross over last impeachment. With that we could actually get him out this time. Istg if they don’t impeach I will go postal
Accountability, motherfucker! Accountability means hearings, investigations, and prosecutions.
Do popular, affordability-focused legislation as well, but accountability is part of what America told you to get on yesterday.
Justice, and an end to the corruption isn't "getting even". Get this guy out of there, primary him if you have to! Voters are done...
Sure, don't get even. Make a big anti-corruption legislation push. Out in the open, include investigations.
Then do what is needed. Dems need to act like they're anti corruption
Jeffries is so far out of touch, he wouldn't know what to do with it if he ever did touch it.
Why would the republican want to hurt or hold other republicans accountable.
You have to call your new reps. You got to write your new reps. You got to let them know that this is not what you voted for.
GOP corpse isn’t even cold yet and he’s already trying to fuck this up.
Why was he not primaried?
He's unfortunately liked in his district, so DSA opted to focus on other seats, which they were mostly successful with.
Chi Osse tried to primary him, but the DSA declined to endorse him because they felt Jeffries had basically infinite money to spend and that Osse kicking out the majority leader would have a damaging effect on the Democratic party.
And, yes, Mamdani and AOC were vocal in their support of Jeffries over Osse. Because we can't have nice things.
Republicans have had their traitorous asses kicked, and now I want to see all their Orange "initiatives" rolled-back, starting with the Big Ugly BIll but also defunding and/or dissolving ICE (and paying some kind of restitution to the people ICE has murdered, at minimum), terminating the Iran war, restoring ALL DOGE cuts, rolling back defense spending to at least Biden-era levels, abolishing all Trump tariffs, offering our sincere apologies to Canada and the EU and restoring our economic and political relations with them to Biden-era norms. That and much much more, there's so much shit to fix and Republicans should be made to suffer while those fixes are made. They fucked up the country and should feel the pain of restoring it like the traitors they are.
But Democratic leadership tiptoeing around like Quislings, kissing up to Republicans as if Dems are still afraid of them and don't want to make them mad because some people, the meanies at the top or fatbody traitor Republican LARPers in Kansas or some backwater might not like the new Dems in power? Too fucking bad, the whole lot of them had it coming and Democratic leadership needs get going doing the fixing and Republicans had better learn to like it. If Democratic leadership can't get the job done without checking first to make sure that the feeeeeeelings of Republicans and their leaders (which includes Orange Diaper Baby of course) won't be hurt then they can look forward to a short stay in power.
Getting out of the war, resolve tariff war against Canada, address gaps in Medicaid. - El-Sayed
I don't want them to impeach his ass unless they're a billion fucking percent sure they have the votes to convict his ass.
AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE VOTES, THEY NEED TO MAKE IT EXTREMELY FUCKING UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THE REPUBLICANS WHO REFUSE TO HOLD THAT ASSHOLE ACCOUNTABLE.
There it is, folks. The Democratic party apathy we knew would come.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have some check and balances back. But anyone who thinks things will turn around in January need look no further than this one comment.
We did that once and that's how we got Trump 2.0. we filed to prosecute the insurrectionist, the rapist, the conman. Now we have war criminals and Nazis still running around the White House!
While there is a certain argument to be made about whether or not to pursue impeachment without the necessary Senate votes...using the phrase "getting even" is a rather disheartening way of dismissing the idea of holding these people accountable for their actions. That should be their top priority. The longer they wait to take action, the less likely they are to get results.
Jeffries needs to sat a the back of the class. His red underclothes are showing. Trump, his gang, his family, his judges, his congress... needs to go and if Jeffries starts with his usual "oh it's okay we'll just all be friends" crap - we may as well have lost on Tuesday. He should have no say in the upcoming battle to free America from fascism and trump. Pussies and turncoats and money changers are not an option from this point out.
We hired y'all to do one thing - put America back together again and keep this hellscape from happening again. And that means clearing out the bad guys who've taken over our government. All the bad guys... judges, congressmen, senators, his family, his "fox and friends", his treasonous military leadership, his "police departments, ...". And it's got to happen pretty goddam quick else that pumpkin colored criminal will REALLY fuck up America... beyond repair.
So "yay - we won". When the gate opens and y'all hit the ground - you'd best be on it from day one.
Nothing to see here. Just Jeffries parroting the talking points he received after Hus secret meeting with Kushner.
He can NOT be allowed to be speaker. He is beholden to AIPAC, not the people of America.
Voting just lets peasants blow off steam so the elites can get back to business as usual.
pretty bog standard dem playbook: pretend they’ll fight, win, and then back down and let status quo maintain while nothing is fixed to pre-rep levels.
it only ever ratchets worse.
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