Google announced Tuesday that early next year it would turn off artificial intelligence tools in its popular software for K-12 students, unless school administrators explicitly choose to make such tools available. Executives at the tech giant said they wanted to be responsive to educators and parents who have asked for more control in how children interact with A.I. But there is a catch: Schools that choose to restrict A.I. entirely will also lose access to Google search.

A.I. features are now a standard part of Google’s commercially available search engine. “Search and A.I. are deeply integrated,” said Chris Phillips, vice president for education at Google. If a school has banned A.I., he added, students “will not have access to search, and they’ll see a message from their school that indicates it’s not available.” Google is by far the dominant technology player in K-12 classrooms. Google’s suite of education apps — including Gmail, Docs and an assignment platform called Classroom — is ubiquitous. Google Chromebooks, low-cost laptops, are the most widely issued student devices in U.S. schools. And Google is synonymous with internet search, a crucial tool for students across the globe.

The company’s new strategy underscores Google’s powerful role in American education. If school leaders want continued student access to search within the company’s ecosystem, they will be forced to embrace Google’s A.I. In recent months, Google has been promoting its Gemini chatbot as a valuable educational tool, saying it can aid teachers in planning lessons and serve as a personalized tutor for students. A new student version of Gemini, Guided Learning, is supposed to make it harder for students to use A.I. to cheat.

“We’re evolving our approach,” said Mr. Phillips. He promised tools that would “support the productive struggle” of learning and tamp down on students turning to A.I. for easy answers. In August, Google turned on A.I. features as the default option inside its Classroom app for K-12 schools that had allowed students separate access to the company’s Gemini chatbot. The move upset some school leaders, who felt schools should be able to decide how and when students used Google’s A.I.

Google’s August change will now be reversed.

A parent movement has been pushing back against the use of A.I. in schools, and against screen time more generally. While A.I. chatbots can be useful tools for research and coding, they can also easily be used to cheat on school assignments and can provide false information. Research shows chatbots can also hinder critical thinking and ensnare adolescents in emotional dependency.

Last week, New York State passed a chatbot safety law that would prohibit companies from providing a variety of A.I. features for minors. And in September, the nation’s two largest school districts, in New York City and Los Angeles — both Google clients — broadly restricted student access to generative artificial intelligence on school devices. Officials in the Los Angeles Unified School District said at the time that they were hoping students would be able to conduct Google searches with A.I. overviews turned off. The overviews are A.I.-generated summaries that appear at the top of searches. They can dissuade students from seeking out multiple sources of information. On Monday, Google executives said that for districts that choose to allow A.I., there will be two options for search inside school-issued accounts, beginning in early 2027. One option will be search with A.I. overviews and A.I. chats turned on, similar to the current consumer experience. The other will be search using Guided Learning, the student version of Google’s Gemini chatbot.

Guided Learning is intended to guide students through a topic step-by-step without providing them with answers that could short-circuit learning. It is supposed to offer an experience modeled on one-to-one tutoring.

The consumer version of Guided Learning is already available within Gemini, and can enable cheating. In a reporter’s test, it produced a detailed essay in response to an Advanced Placement history prompt.

There are greater restrictions in the school version that is currently being piloted, according to Brit Mennuti, product lead for Google Classroom. She said teachers would be able to review students’ chatbot transcripts, among other capabilities.

all 84 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 146 points 3 days ago (12 children)
  • [–] 86 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    Member when software companies offered ultra cheap student licenses because they recognized the long term value of a student learning and getting accustomed to their program? I member.

    This seems very, very shortsighted.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago* (2 children)

    github had (has?) free pro accounts for students back when github didn't offer private repos for free. if you forgot to cancel your student account when you graduated, github would simply hold your private repos hostage unless you paid for them. no option given to simply make them public repos. i would have lost mountains of my work had they not fucked up and unlocked my repos for a couple hours, which allowed me to clone everything i didn't have locally and migrate to gitlab.

    so basically, sometimes those student offers build in scam tactics.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] -4 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    How is that a scam tactic? You got access to private repos for some amount of time. It is clear to any reasonable person that you would lose access after the pro version ends.

    If you didn't want your repos to be "held hostage", just clone them before the subscription expires.

    I benefitted from student GitHub pro too, and I used it knowing that the day would come where my free subscription would end and I'd lose access to it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    that would be fair if they would just be barred from making additional changes, issues and comments. or if they deleted the data. that would even free up storage at github. but no. they kept the data in the hopes students will pay to access their own content, and then perhaps forget to cancel the subscription.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    Student discounted software started when most of the corporate world was still using typewriters and paper. Students learned the new-fangled software and carried into their new jobs.

    Today, those same businesses rely on Microsoft Office and Google search, and those monopolies are obviously going to leverage their monopolies to force AI, Teams, or whatever other Next Big Thing onto unwilling schools.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Yeah oh noo, google is forfeiting its market stranglehold by making stupid executive decisions. What are we going to do... 🙄

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago* (3 children)

    It's just exhausting how everything is a predatory anti-human pit of vipers lately. This must be how pretty girls have felt since always.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 74 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I'm sure it's a tactic to make the schools allow AI, but I hope they can resist. Google does not need a stranglehold on every person in every market. Google search has gotten worse anyway, so even duck duck go would be fine. Maybe even use this as an opportunity to teach kids about data privacy.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago

    Might also be an attempt to keep their Search numbers up. I saw an article recently that AI is hurting Google Search because of the lack of click through due to AI summaries.

    By packaging them together they get to boost both options through a semi-captive audience.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 58 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    I hope schools reject Google. They’ve indoctrinated them into using Google products long enough. I’ve witnessed kids not knowing what the address bar is or a URL, only referring to it as Google search. Many can’t navigate a real computer if they grew up only using the school chromebooks. This has to change

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Also not just a google problem. Kids raised on apps don't really understand file structures, so if they can't find a photo in the photo folder or pretty much anything else in the download folder, they don't know what to do.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 52 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Get Google, Microsoft and Apple and all the rest OUT of schools.

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    TBF, just kick google out and add real Linux.

    Chromebooks are not good job training. Macs/Windows/Linux are

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Windows is not. There's no value added.

    It's been known for a long time that what students learn in schools have a major influence on the tools they advocate for at their future workplaces. So getting students used to and familiar with Linux would help with corporate inroads.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 38 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Google isn't the only search engine, no matter how much it acts like it is.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 37 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Lol great buisness plan, force schools to find alternatives and act suprised when students continue to use those alternatives into their adult life.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)
  • [–] 54 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Oh shucks..

    🦆🦆▶️

  • source
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)
  • [–] 24 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Just use DuckDuckGo with all AI stuff turned off. If google thinks it is a great idea to remove itself from pupils and schools, their choice.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago

    I feel bad for kids still learning in the formative years

    So much has changed and I fear it has been for the worse. At least in the US they are trying their hardest to dismantle education

  • source
  • [–] 14 points 3 days ago

    Those chromebooks are a smoking deal aren't they school systems, we told you in countless meetings, emails, and snail mail this was a bad idea.

  • source
  • [–] 14 points 3 days ago*

    Sure, Google is evil, etc. But the school admin can default omnibar search to another search engine. Like noai.duckduckgo. com.

  • source
  • [–] 12 points 2 days ago

    My 2nd grader son loves ducks. He will be happy with this change.

  • source
  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago

    Nothing of value was lost…

  • source
  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago*

    *quickly steps in a time machine that takes me to the employee lounge in Google HQ in 2005, in middle of a lunch hour*

    Hey guys! Don't mind me too much, I'm from the future! But you should know that in 2026, Google gets the bright idea of limiting which schools have access to Google Search.

    *hears assorted cries of "WHAT???" and "HOW?!?!?!" from the crowd*

    *grins devilishly, waves, and steps back into the time machine*

  • source
  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago

    Don’t threaten me with a good time!

  • source
  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago

    Oh nooo they won't have access to Google Search. How terrrrible. What ever will they doooo

  • source
  • [–] 19 points 3 days ago

    Sounds like a win win. They don't have to use ai if they choose not to, and they also get incentivized to explore switching to other search engines

  • source
  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago

    School admin should just block googles domains and get back to teaching.

  • source
  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago

    There are others that work just fine, bye!

  • source
  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago

    In case you still had doubts that google is evil

  • source
  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    This is known as "malicious compliance", here's hoping it backfires

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Good. Let them discover early in their lives that we do not need to depend on big tech companies.

  • source
  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (9 children)

    Schools should pay for Kagi

  • source
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

    You okay with increasing school budgets? That seems to be a hard sale for America, for instance.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago*

    I'm an American and literally just voted yes to increase my taxes to improve local schools. Sure there's red chunks who don't understand but the country is not this monoculture people keep making it out to be

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Kagi is free for Libraries, maybe schools could cut a nice deal too!

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    I don't get people who are stingy on schools. I'm getting to the age where I'm starting to depend on doctors younger than I am so I don't suffer and die. I do not want to go cheap on their education

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    Isn’t this the logic that lead to Chromebooks and the illiteracy crisis?

    Sure, take this heavily discounted tech for your digital native kids. Just make sure they use only our software, never learn what files are, never have access to the terminal where they might customize their system, and we have all their data.

    I was taught if something seems too good to be true it isn’t, and also there’s no such thing as a free lunch.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    Yes, yes. Let Google keep digging its own grave. 🪏

  • source
  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago

    Your terms are acceptable.

  • source
  • [+] 10 points 3 days ago
    [–] 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Might be nice for a certain age group to make them evaluate multiple search engines as a class project. ("If it provided a summary, did it say what its sources were?" "When you checked the sources, did they actually say what the summary said they said?" "How many actual results did it return for these searches?" "How many of the results on the first page were useful?" etc.) Improved media literacy in general, and they all learn that more than one search engine exists.

  • source
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Block google, use duckduckgo.

    Even better, the computer science and/or IT portions of school should have students learn how to set up, configure, and maintain their own instances of SearXNG that the school could use locally on their intranet.

    Education, exposing kids to open source alternatives, and the school gets their own, and better, search aggregator that strips AI and ads. Sounds like a win-win-win to me.

  • source
  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    Great. Make the kids use something else. There are a wealth of alternatives that will yield better results, fewer ads, and less invasive tracking.

  • source
  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    Time to use DuckDuckGo or Startpage

  • source
  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Fuck you Pichai, you fucking banchode.

  • source
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    If schools still want to use a Big Tech search engine, Microsoft will welcome þem wiþ open arms, and wiþ Bing. Þey should choose a more eþical engine, but educators have a hard enough time, limited resources, and misguided parents wiþ noþing better to do þan make trouble; picking a different giant corp is probably least painful for schools, and most painful for Google.

  • source
  • Oh no, Google uses the overwhelmingly effective strategy of throwing a tantrum and snatching their toys back. /s

    Get lost and get bent. We don't need you.

  • source
  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    Man, I used to love using Googles ecosystem but recently on Chromecast YouTube they started pushing non skippable politics adds at me like gangbusters.. That was the last straw. Finally got all ads out of YT and stopped using Gboard and went back to FF. Getting out of Gmail next. Enough is enough.

  • source
  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    Meta fight back!

  • source
  • [–] -1 points 2 days ago

    Duckduckgo is terrible, I try to use it every year purely because they gave me a free shirt a decade ago.

  • source
  • 2 comments in c/hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se view that post
    [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    You know it's good when they have to threaten and force people to use it...

  • source
  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    "Don't be evil" 🤡

  • source