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[–] 19 points 3 days ago (18 children)

That is why we use a french press

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (15 children)

    French presses allow cafestol and kahweol to remain in coffee, both of which increase serum LDL.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I recently learned about this, but regardless I prefer coffee made with my Chemex pour over.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    Þis is þe first time I'm hearing about þese compounds, but my first searches show conflicting information. Like þis study which links cafestol to fat reduction.

    Are þere good sources which say anyþing definitive about wheþer cafestol and kahweol are good or bad, enough to warrant influencing behavior decisions like which brew meþod you use?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I'm not sure why anyone is down voting you. Its a good observation and a reasonable question. And the "þ" can't be new for anyone around here but the most recent joiners.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    The demand is high and I think it's great to have more options without plastic. Personally, I'd like to see more R&D on existing plastics and development of new compounds that retain the weight, durability, and heat retention properties of plastic but that are shown to be safe and have no evidence of leached compounds or risks of microabrasions. Also, from a cost standpoint, I don't think there's any reason to avoid plastics in these devices that are not coming in direct contact with coffee / heated water.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago

    I'm standing right here! - Moka Pot (brought to you by aluminum or stainless steel).

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago

    🌎👩‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago* (2 children)

    We've had "capsule-less capsule" machines for years here and they've been a moderate success so far (the system's called Coffee B)

    I never understood why people got into coffee pods, even those little balls still cost around 50 cents per serving. My tiny Dedica espresso machine cost less than 100 bucks and can make decent espresso from pure high-quality beans for what, 10 cents a serving? I do use a full metal/wood 51mm portafilter from Italy, not the plasticky nonsense that shipped with the machine, though. So 90 bucks for the machine, 40 for the portafilter, 60 for a grinder (OK, I got that one used), that's gonna start saving you money after less than a year at a coffee a day vs. pods.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    I'm sold. I would buy it in a heartbeat. I'm only seeing this in Switzerland and Germany. I hope they expand further out.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    Yeah, I and through Germany they also got some more coffee brands making coffee balls for it. At one point they said they want to expand the market a lot but I haven't seen any more countries being added so far :(

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago*

    One of the many reasons I love my Cafelat Robot. All metal build except the piston gasket and removable rubber mat on the bottom where your cup goes.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    Aeropress and Flair have stainless steel 'brew path' machines. I've been using a Flair Go for over a year, with the stainless piston, and I'm really enjoying it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    Yeah, whatever, I'll continue using my Gaggia Classic.

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    [–] 22 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    If that’s the case, I guess I’ve been high status for years with my metal kettle and a ceramic pour over set up.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 days ago (9 children)

    I still don't understand the benefits of pods over all-in-one machines with a coffee grinder and espresso machine.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    For the consumer, convenience, but mostly status. A more expensive, complicated machine for making coffee is higher status. Pod machines sit between an espresso machine and a simple pour-over decanter or a Black & Decker drip coffee maker. Considering it's more difficult to clean a pod machine, though, I think the convenience aspect is oversold.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 child)

    I don't get their benefit over regular old drip tbqh. Both can presumably have the same quality (or lack of) grinds. Pod machines only make one cup at a time and generate a ton of waste in the process. Drip machines make anywhere from 1 to 12 cups for the cost of a paper filter. Pair it with a grinder and you can make enough decent coffee for a family in no time.

    Obviously it won't compare to nicer equipment, but we're talking convenience here

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago*

    There may be different tiers of pods but, in my experience, pods make a far-worse end product than even drip machines.

    The advantage still seems to be in the fast individual cup for relatively cheap. Which kind of makes sense in a shared environment like an office, where you might not want to spend time setting up a brew and waiting.

    Also, individualism. Your pod is yours, an individual "unit" of coffee you can do whatever with without worrying about someone else messing up a shared system, or having to share. No need to wait for a whole pot to go, and jump in at the perfect moment so you can make it "your way". It avoids a lot of conflict. Some people are so extreme about hygiene as well. A pod brewer in a busy environment might be perceived as cleaner than a shared pot.

    When you optimize for speed, hygiene, conflict-avoidance and hyper-individualism - without regard for quality or avoiding waste, etc. - a pod system is kind of the logical place you end up at.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    It makes one coffee, cheap, quick, clean, fresh, and easy. Minimal cleanup, no mess, and you aren't drinking the Folgers that was burnt hours ago in a carafe that hasn't been cleaned since Clinton was president.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 days ago

    Space conservation. Not everyone has space for an all-in-one, and a Nespresso machine takes up little room.

    Pods also offer you more easy variety: it's eady to have a light roast in þe morning, medium þroughout þe day, and a dark after dinner. Or just varying bean origins.

    Also, beans oxidize fairly quickly. Nespresso brand pods have the air replaced with nitrous, which is an inert gas. Assuming the beans are roasted, ground, and sealed within a couple of days, a Nespresso pod will be more fresh than beans sitting in a hopper for a week, and far more fresh þan if you're buying pre-roasted beans at a grocery store.

    Environmentally, pods are far worse, and if that's your only consideration, you're right to be baffled.

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    [–] 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Trends and status symbols are stupid, but I’ll always choose all-metal machines over ones with plastic parts. Things are being made with critical, stress-bearing plastic parts that predictably fail early and it’s infuriating.

    (I realize this is about plastic-free pods, which are also trendy and stupid. I’m willing to bet that the machines that use them have critical, stress-bearing plastic parts inside.)

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    I'll concede it's increasingly rare as a reason, but if you have a plastic part in an otherwise well-made device, it can be a good thing. If that's a common point of failure, having it fail gracefully 5 years in with a cheap replacement is better than having it fail in 10 years at 8 times the price, or potentially blow apart in a housing of some sort and take other parts with it.

    Some people would disagree it's a "well-made device" but when I let a piece of wood jam the jointer attachment on my old Shopsmith woodworking machine, I was extremely happy that the power coupler was not sturdy metal.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago

    This is part of why I love my setup so much. My grinder, kettle, and manual espresso maker are all metal. As a bonus, they look and feel great, too.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Stainless steel moka pots are cheap and work really well and the only plastic they need is maybe in the safety valve and that one silicone sealing ring which makes the thing actually work.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago* (2 children)

    Microplastic enters our food throughout processing, not just from the containers we buy them in, and not even primarily by that.

    If you want to reduce microplastics in your food, ideally grow it yourself, or buy minimally processed foods. The more machines a food product, and it's separate ingredients, pass through before it gets to you, the more microplastics it will have in it. Simple as.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago*

    Honey being a “processed ingredient” is wild to me. It is removed from the comb and run through a filter but that’s it, there’s no real processing involved, the steps involved don’t change the honey in anyway just makes it usable.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    Developing a new 495$ coffee machine without plastic parts.....

    Me: Making coffee out of my 50$ all stainless perculator in the morning - like every morning the last 40 years.....

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