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[–] 105 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (26 children)

At some point somebody should step in here. Computing has become so ubiquitous that it's pretty much needed in a functional world. Why should AI centers get the supply while we suffer with higher prices/worse products?

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    That's the funniest part here: those LLS are not very effective, but still "AI" companies have an enormous amount of money.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    They get a lot of money because the company and investors that create genuine AI win capitalism. We're in the endgame now. Or we will be when we are close to creating genuine AI rather than LLMs.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    But they're not going to stop you using computers. They're just going to stop you using YOUR computer. They want you to pay a subscription to use THEIR computer, and to own all your data. So of course they can scan that for even more targeted ads.

    This is the endgame the techbros want. And the shitter about this is, we'll end up paying more in subscription fees than we did buying parts, and to kick us in the teeth, I'd bet that we'll only get whatever GPU/CPU compute is leftover from their priority corporate/AI contracts.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    If doesn’t stop at ads. Someone with all the data - remember this includes enterprise - can predict markets. They can get ahead of new inventions. They can insider trade. They can pick winners and losers. They can censor unfavorable articles. They can swing elections.

    Why do you think they push for laws to force you to ID yourself online at all times? Why do you think they push for backdoors in encryption? And, conveniently, both of those things also make cloud platforms an easier way to enforce compliance, as well as providing them with full access.

    The techbros are building a panopticon for total control, not just to sell more ads. It’s WAY more nefarious.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    Well I didn't want to go full Orwellian. But I have thought about it too. Of course the most sinister thing in 1984, where they change history by replacing articles in the newspapers. That would be possible. Because if all you have are some hand scribbled notes or your certain own memory that we were DEFINITELY at war with East Asia, but everyone else knows the truth, they assure you of the truth. That we were always, at war with Eurasia. You're suddenly that crazy guy.

    The vast majority of people have little real memory or grasp of history. Already on X people are asking grok such simple questions.

    Now, you might say, well they couldn't change every copy of information could they? Humans, no. AI, quite probably.

    In all seriousness, I'm aware of how far it could go. I just hope there's enough humanity left in the world that it doesn't.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Because that way they can rent computing back to us while controlling what information is fact and what is fiction.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago

    This has been obvious for a little while now but it just doesn't click for people or they simply do not care. It is precisely the idea behind a Chromebook. Everything in the cloud. By now, a couple of generations have grown up using them almost entirely and it has already been normalized for them.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Because eventually they will need you to buy into the Cloud based VM platform so they can monitor everything you do and block ad blockers.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    More like "subscribe in" so they can slowly but continually raise prices, continue to price out the consumer market, and ultimately decide who gets access.

    Said something mean about oligarchs? Tried to sue one of their buddies? Promoted pro-worker ideals on social media? No computing for you, or maybe they hit just you with additional punitive hidden fees.

    Blocking ad blockers is small potatoes for them. They're going for the jugular.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago

    Don't forget about the personalized propaganda advertising! When the whole populous hits the same API endpoint, you get recon, generation, and delivery all through the same platform. Very resource-efficient.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    Like it or not, pricing is the most efficient way of distributing limited resources. Unless you want people in RAM lines

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Well RAM lines is better than big tech just gobbling it all up on investments from my pension.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (4 children)

    What? The stock market is doing great

    S&P 500 up 9% YTD, 62% in the past 5 years

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (2 children)

    S&P 500 up 9% YTD,

    That looks like its on Friday's close.

    S&P 500 is up 12.35% YTD right now.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    Its almost like governments can step in and limit the amount a single entity or company is allowed to buy, or make things cheaper/more expensive for certain customers via subsidy.

    The US government has totally never done things like this to help turn a profit for oil execs.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago

    They can, but they shouldn't. The AI boom won't last forever. The RAM, CPU, GPU manufacturers should get the maximum value now to increase manufacturing capacity. It will be needed later for other things.

    For example, the crypto mining boom first caused shortages in the GPU market, but the following generation was a really good value. 3080s still sold out, but now it was to gamers. Without the crypto boom, the manufacturers wouldn't have increased the capacity as much and fewer GPUs would been sold to gamers in the next generation

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  • [–] 30 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Gee, thanks for the heads-up Apple. What're you going to do about it?

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  • [–] 18 points 4 days ago

    "What we'll do is this, it's like an iPad, but it folds. Just be careful folding it, or else the screen will break. Don't worry, it is not an error it's a feature. It's there to warn the user they're opening it wrong.

    We also welded a speaker to an iPad. You know, the thing famous for being mobile. We don't think it should be mobile anymore. You'll like it…or else…"

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  • [–] 10 points 3 days ago

    I think at this point, it's very precedented

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago

    Move over stolen catalytic converters!

    From William Gibson's novel Neuromancer written in 1984 depicting a future where stealing RAM out of computer and selling it on the black market is a regular occurrence:

    "Case took the pink handset from its cradle and punched a Hongkong number from memory. He let it ring five times, then hung up. His buyer for the three megabytes of hot RAM in the Hitachi wasn't taking calls."

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  • [–] 7 points 3 days ago

    Warns as if they aren't the issue here

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  • [–] 16 points 4 days ago* (1 child)

    "Oligopoly company that came late to the party warns of risks of oligopolies (that affect it)"

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    The AI bubble won't last much longer.

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    [–] 9 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    “Demand” which constituted megascaler companies buying chips to out in warehouses so that other people can’t buy the chips.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    We're going to be able to build virtual super computers on the cheap once the investors turn off the money supply.

    I can hang on to my phone and computers for a while longer

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago

    What we need is an AI cooling off period, say 50000 years, during that time all AI companies are required to scale back their operations to that they had back in 2022. Any hardware and datacenter bought after that will be sold to the general public at charity auctions.

    Then perhaps we can stop throwing compute at the problem and actually innovate to make the crap more efficient and optimized while we maintain the ability of the common man to learn computing and keep the skills alive.

    I am so fucking done with AI, but I understand that we need to keep researching it, what I don't understand is the accepted attitude that everything needs to pivot to AI.

    At work we have started working with a new AI company promising to make everyone able to make any application for anything without knowing how to code.

    And, sure it does look cool, and it isn't based in the US (though that is probably just a matter of time), but we are making us dependent on them for everything.

    I have a few questions that I wiuld love to ask, but I don't know if I'll get the chance...

    1. Where is the actual data stored? Is it stored in the AI company's infrastructure? How do we export it? What happens if the AI company is bought by another company in another country, will our data move to the new country's jurisdiction?
    2. What does it cost to keep an app running? Once the app is no longer developed, what does it cost to keep running?
    3. What is our strategy to move away from the AI company when they suddenly raise costs both for AI tokens, and for just running the app?
    4. What is our strategy to maintain in-house knowledge of the actual processes? Without that knowledge, how do we evaluate the apps that are generated by the AI company?

    I suspect the answer will be something like:

    1. Don't worry about it.
    2. Don't worry about it.
    3. Don't worry about it.
    4. Don't worry about it.
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