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[–] 90 points 1 week ago (36 children)

This is the first time I see a real airplane crash, and not some CGI simulation, the sheer speed of that aircraft is crazy to witness.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 week ago (33 children)

    The last adsb ping had it descending at > 30000 feet per minute. That means they were traveling over 300 mph straight down. I've read about a large number of aviation accidents, and this is the first time I've ever seen vertical speeds that extreme.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 week ago (16 children)

    Yeah this is a crazy accident. They basically plummeted from cruising altitude. The audio is devastating to hear.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 week ago (14 children)

    Yeah, I was not ready for that audio. It happened so fast, but you could still tell how aware the pilots were of how unrecoverable the situation was. RIP, they didn't deserve to go out like that.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    I had to look it up, you're not kidding. The pilot literally just screams their decent rate (22,000 feet per minute) and bank (60°) a few times and then nothing.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Apparently she was only 20. Not that it would be less tragic if she was older.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    She was the copilot.

    The pilot was a 55 year old male.

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  • And more precise, she was the 'pilot monitoring' (PM) meaning she handled all the comm tasks and everything not related to actually flying the plane. The captain was pilot flying (PF)...

    Everyone should look for Captain Steeeve on youtube. This man handles this incident with the utmost dignity and respect, only broadcasting the relevant part of the ATC audio, not the entire piece. That is safe for listening. You can feel his pain reviewing the incident.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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    Is it normal for ATC to be this emotionally detached?

    • OMG we're going to die!!!
    • Ok let me know if you need any additional assistance
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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    Kinda thinking the same thing, but at the same time, what was he supposed to say? He's probably shaken during it too and you don't want to say anything to incite more panic, or try to be comforting but miss the mark and waste their last seconds of life.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    What does bank 60 degrees mean? 60 degreees down from horizontal?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    It's how level the wings are with the ground. 0° means the plane's wings are perfectly level, 90° means one wing is pointing straight up and the other towards the ground.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    Though their pitch (nose angle) was so steep the bank value was almost meaningless because the rotational axis was almost perpendicular to the ground. So it didn't really refer to the actual bank angle as it meant "this situation we're in right now is completely fucked, I'm panicking but hoping I'm missing something useful in my panic so just calling out information in case it's the essential piece of info to a solution I can't see right now".

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    It was more or less in free fall the entire time. Likely reached terminal velocity. They tried to roll the plane to get lift back which is why the plane is sideways, but they couldn't pitch it back up.

    One of the current theories is the stabilizers on the tail got obstructed or damaged by ice. They detached at some point before the crash. They were found a few miles away from the crash site today.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    It's looking like it was more likely 580mph or so, as the ADSB maxes out at 32k feet/min

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Yeah, I've heard that too. The last few reports from their transponder seem to support that, since they are all the exact same value. I'll be interested to see if the NTSB is able to extrapolate the actual rate of descent for the last few seconds. It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, but it's certainly interesting.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Didn't that last hijacking attempt have then at -30000ft/min for a few seconds. This plane lost the horizontal stabilizer and the hijacked plan landed with no control surface on the vertical stabilizer.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    That's not ringing a bell for me. Do you remember any more info?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    it was the air Dubai incident. not sure if it's properly called a hijacking since it was one of the pilots who attacked the other pilot. plane plunged during the scuffle and I think level flight was restored by a passenger that grabbed the yoke until relieved by off duty pilots who were deadheading in the back of the plane. part of the rudder or one of the stabilizers ripped off.

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  • [+] [S] -15 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    If only an Israeli plumber broke into the cockpit to save the day...

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I really don't get the joke that you're trying to make?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    There was a recent plane hijacking attempt (by one of the pilots, no less) to perform a suicidal crash of the plane, the plane was en route to Israel with a lot of Israelis onboard, and they thwarted the attempt fairly heroically.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I don't get if you're trying to make a statement or ask a question. What's with the question mark? You know if you get the joke or not, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    The actual question is implied by the statement turned into a question. "I don't get it?" is asking for an explanation.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 days ago

    No, you're asking if you don't get it, even if your tone of voice changes while saying it. OP's statement needed a period, a question would be "Can you explain the joke you're trying to make?"

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  • [–] 28 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Effing Facebook idiots are full on conspiracy cover up mode with this. Spouting it was really a missile and the plane and radio traffic was all a Psy op cover up and shit. They're nutty as hell. It wouldn't even make sense.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    If it was a missle, wouldn't it have actually hit something worth using an expensive missle on? Not just a random road in Florida?

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  • [+] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Craziest footage ive seen in a while. This plane turned to dust almost instantly. At least they did not suffer.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Unfortunately their last 30 seconds or so were likely sheer terror…

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Oh yes. Voice recordings of the communication between the pilots and the Air Traffic Controller can be found online.

    Tip: Don't listen to it.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    A fearful death seems genuinely horrible thougj

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Being in omg I’m going to die levels of fear is suffering

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago

    Yeah different levels, dying in intense fear and painless isn't my top way to die, but it's definitely not the worst way to go.

    I think we'd all prefer a quick, painless, and completely unnoticed death when the time comes. Most get slow and painful. This was in-between those two for me

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    I've seen war and missiles first hand and this still seems surreal. (I know it's a plane but I mean how fast tgey come down)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Wild, that small car looks like it was caught up in it.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    The white car was not hit, it was actually much further back than it appears in the video. In some of the aftermath pictures, you can see it survived. It was definitely damaged by the shockwave but not directly hit. No one on the ground was killed, as far as I know.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago*

    The fact that the plane went down vertically seems to have really minimized the damage. There's one frame where the plane is just disappeared, flattened into that crater. The explosion happened from inside the crater and that would do a lot to protect the immediate surroundings.

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    some rich dude who works in tech. also his two young children, sadly.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    9 people, a family with 2 little kids, the nanny, two pilots, and the other 2 were apparently friends. That thing only seats 7 with like 2 more on the little jump bench so it was crammed to the gills with people

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