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[–] 122 points 1 week ago (4 children)
  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 94 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    I can think of something that’s an absolute waste of computing resources: AI bullshit. Nobody really needs to expend computing resources, electricity, and water to have ChatGPT tell them that they asked the best question ever because they’re so insightful.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 week ago

    He's promoting his own business by ruining others.

    The man is a shill of the highest order.

    When the music stops, the bubble will burst.

    He just wants to be the last one on the dance floor.

    It's Rhetoric of the highest order.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    These assholes deserve to die. They're a waste of oxygen.

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  • [–] 113 points 1 week ago (3 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    This one caught me as I've just closed Transport Tycoon Deluxe. I played it on a machine with 128GB RAM and a 5070Ti(16GB) ... Now I'm ashamed.

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  • [–] 175 points 1 week ago (20 children)

    I get his argument logically, but I wonder how many vacant bedrooms he owns. He should give them to my housing collective so they aren't sitting idle all the time.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 week ago (14 children)

    It's a good argument if it was made in good faith.

    But he's evil, so it's not in good faith

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  • [–] 58 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    It is a stupid argument even if made in good faith.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    It's sound reasoning up to a point. It would be far more efficient if everyone gave their RAM to a central collective and used it online. That way the RAM would be in use even when you aren't using it personally. Everyone would have an effectively infinite amount and it would be cheaper because you only pay for the time that you are using it.

    I'm reality, of course, Sam would be in charge of all the RAM and would keep screwing us harder and harder until we started squeaking like a rat in an undersized corset. That's what separates the theory from reality.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I think it might not be. Of course, what Sam means is "let us have all the RAM so you can run a ChatGPT client on your Commodore 64", and if that were the only thing RAM was used for, that would be more efficient. But it's not and it would be undesirable for things to become like that.

    So let's imagine a general purpose RAM collective. I think for that to be workable at all, it would require a major upgrade to internet infrastructure to make it sufficiently high-throughput and low-latency, which would be very costly and also require a lot of RAM. The cost of all that would probably dwarf the inefficiencies of individually owned RAM not being used maximally.

    Additionally, to get the latency low enough, the data centers would have to be pretty physically close to the people using them. But people who live near each other also tend to sleep, work and play at similar times, so the gained efficiency wouldn't be nearly as high as it could be. And on top of all that, even the lowest achievable latency would still be very slow by RAM standards, so at that point you might as well be using a hard drive as working memory.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You had me up until “cheaper because you only pay for the time that you are using it”.

    We don’t really have a good benchmark there, and we’ve seen that tokens are actually much more expensive than companies are leading on as they’re trying to get people hooked. As with on-premise, or anything you own, your usage can far exceed a rented rate and then becomes cheaper and cheaper each use.

    I’d be curious if there are any rented mediums that are actually cheaper once you start using them a decent amount? Cars, cloud, video, all of those become more expensive when rented if used too much.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    As someone who tried to make a living doing ride share with a rental, it's never going to be cars without a serious overhaul of our commercial relationships with them. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that principle holds true across the board

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Have you ever had to wait your turn to use the one computer in the library thats the only one that has the specific program you need to use, to finish an assignment, thats due in 30 minutes?

    But little Timmy really wants to play the color version of Number Munchers?

    Scale that up by a few quintillion times, and you may see how catastrophically stupid it would be to have a single entity gatekeeping all computational capacity on Earth.

    You think Musk shutting off Starlink for 48hrs in a active warzone, is bad?

    Imagine that even a well intentioned theoretical super LLM just makes a mistake, or an intentional decision along the lines of... 3 months of the entire computational/transactional/book keeping/device regulating capacity/logistical planning and monitoring ability of the entire country and economy of I don't know, Cameroon, Albania, New Zealand, Thailand, whatever... eh thats less important than this other thing people are doing.

    This is madness, in a technologized world, for everyone to relenquish their entire ability to do anything requring RAM, to a single entity.

    Do you want SkyNet? The Matrix?

    Thats how you get them!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Cheaper? BS, the RAM of your PC cost cents to make. If you have the RAM online, you'll pay for every minute using it + your ISP for the bandwith, and they can leave you with an paperweight instead of an PC at any moment they want. Wrong, not even an PC, it's only a data terminal you own and pay for, less as an smart TV. Centralizing Internet even more in the hands of few billonair pedo-assholes and their AIs, with Datacenters in former Woods (see those in Finnland by Google), what can go wrong?

    The Altman User Support Center

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    ISP has an outage = you're cut off from everything, can't even play offline games.

    Data center has an outage = same thing

    Once they start paying for enterprise level redundancy for all parts of the system (multiple lines for all homes from isp, your data replicated across DCs, all within reasonable distance to you to retain latency), we get to a point where it's just a worse experience for probably more money, and a constant dependence on a vendor rather than a 1 time dependence. They have tried to make this work many times with the cloud gaming shit, and it failed every time.

    IMO, even ignoring the evil part it is a step down from what we currently have (or rather, had before the asshole crew started buying everything so they rot in storage, driving prices to the moon).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Yeah in this moment we need to be building out our solarpunk homelabs and preparing to be able to integrate into a localized intranet mesh if we choose to, so that once this all comes crashing down we can start rebuilding some semblance of what we had.

    Putting all our RAM eggs in one basket would be the fucking stupidest thing I could think of.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago

    Extend it further than rooms.

    How much MONEY does he have that isn't currently being utilized for an actual useful purpose? Making himself richer isn't useful.

    How many doctor's bills could he be paying?

    How many mouths could he be feeding?

    How many teachers or babysitters could he be paying?

    If this ratfuck conman with a messiah complex thinks he can just casually opine that he has a disruptive, new take on property rights, oh well then by all means, lets just entirely drop the pretense and have the totality of this conversation.

    He is a power mad socio and psychopath who is to a great degree personally responsible for the coming Greatest Depression.

    There is no amount of suffering he can cause that would be too great for a fucked up freak like this who has no morality beyond that which makes him feel satisfied with himself.

    Yeah, lets renegotiate the social contract Sam, let's get right on that.

    Do you no longer believe in private property, personal possessions, Sam?

    We should all just submit our riches to the false machine god, and trust that its technopriest interpreters will guide humanity unto a new dawn?

    Give me a fucking break, its like he wants to be ripped to pieces by a righteous mob.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 week ago* (4 children)

    If he wants my graphics card so bad, I'd be more than happy to give my 7900xtx to him via the rectal route, unlubed. I'd hate to give it up but I understand it's for a good cause. He can have the motherboard too, same way.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Keeping Sam Altman alive is wasteful.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Is this from the Magical Mystery Tour movie??

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Its from Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. The guy massively overeats until the frustrated waiter feeds him a tiny bit more and he explodes into organs and vomit. It IS absolute cinema.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago* (3 children)

    Ah... I thought it was the scene from Magical Mystery Tour where John is serving someone massive amounts of spaghetti using a shovel lol. But on second look, clearly that's not John.

    I tried finding a clip, but all of the results I'm getting are hosted on Facebook and I don't fuck with that.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 week ago

    Actually, the oxygen that Sam Altman consumes is wasteful.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Billionaire calls regular people wasteful.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    He's made statement that data centers are cheap to run, compared to human workers, because humans cost 18 years feeding and teaching them.

    So he was saying AI can use some electilricity and give same answer as a human, but the humans cost more. People were like, wow, yeah right, he's amazing.

    Um how much did the data center cost to setup? LLM training, workers to clear the land, resource mining, all the labour to manufacture the resources unto data center infrastructure. Food resources to feed the builders, architects, labourers etc. etc. He glossed over that part.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    That begs the question: what tool did dear Sam use to acquire his skills in the first place? Since at least one of his own computers certainly played a role in his career (and he couldn’t possibly have used it to its full capacity for decades) this attitude speaks volumes. Even though his own personal computing power helped him get to where he is now, he denies that same opportunity to everyone else. Fuck you, Sam.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 week ago* (3 children)

    Sam's primary skill is grifting, you don't need a PC to develop that skill.

    According to rumours he barely knows how to code and he is said to misunderstand basic machine learning concepts. It is however true that he might have needed a PC at some point in his 2 years of studying computer science before dropping out. Even though I remember that at my local university people weren't even touching a PC in the first year and were being tortured by theory and math by hand instead, to understand the foundation before going anywhere fancy. Maybe that has changed in the meanwhile.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    To be fair, you don't need RAM to code - modern CPUs have ~5MB of cache and that's enough for an entire Lisp machine.

    Also, let's be real here: any computer from the last 40 years is enough to code on, as is any RasPi or knockoff (or with a bit more than zero effort/expertise, basically any system that can run Doom, which is basically any system). The most expensive parts are the screen, keyboard and mouse.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    For compiling it might make a bit of a difference, doesn't it? Even so, yes, you can probably get some 200 EUR Mini PC and have already way more than you need.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 week ago

    Fuck Sam Altman

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  • [–] 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    They're going to try to make non-cloud computers illegal in the next decade. Count on it.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Counterpoint: Amazon is buying billions in Nvidia AI systems it can't yet turn on

    https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-nvidia-ai-gpu-data-centers-power-shortages-2026-10?op=1

    Before turning to slower RAM, they collectively made VRAM&GPU a luxury by intentionally exhausting supply to everyone else, and leftover components they can't (or haven't even planned) to power on collects dust.

    There are like tens of ways to ridicule his argument, but I find this one more direct.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Who's driving Altman's car and sleeping in Altman's bed when he's at a meeting? Maybe solve the parked-car and empty-building problems first.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    Right? Even if he was correct, no one can possibly trust him when we have already seen how they treat workers of ride sharing, work from home, grocery pick-up, website pricing and “convenience” fees. Bad for the workers bad for the consumer.

    This time though will be different /s

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  • [–] 29 points 1 week ago

    I think him having oxygen is wasteful.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Is this finally the manifestation of "you'll own nothing and love it" or whatever it was?

    Someone did the same math as SETI in 1999, when they asked people to take idle compute to grind data. At what point does the free tier of ChatGPT grind data on your machine like some sort of bitcoin mining malware?

    Let's extrapolate: Humans are 70% water - Buddy, at what point do to you start trying to dehydrate orphans to cool all the ram you want to harvest from average people?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Saltman can rent a bag of dicks.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 week ago

    Sam Altman drawing breath is wasteful

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  • [–] 28 points 1 week ago

    Most of the money he has aren't used so it would be better if he give his money to the collective

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  • [–] 27 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I truly hate this motherfucker.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 week ago

    For a long time now, silicon Valley has wanted people to only have thin clients just powerful enough to access their cloud services. AI and datacenter build out is the closest they've been to realizing this dream, so of course Altman is going to have this view.

    And to that I say go to hell

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    He's right about this being inefficient but the reason we can't have nice things here is that he is the most condensed essence of shit and we can't trust him or any of his billionaire shitcock friends.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
    • do we need to be running every last scrap of computer, full tilt and always? Doesn’t that make Jesus and Climate Jesus weep?
    • my computer is doing Soulseek stuff, and someone is currently downloading season one of Severance from it and I hope they enjoy it, it will bring them more pleasure than even kicking Sam Altman in the balls.
    • why should I have to surrender my computer to this sad little man who is older than me by only three months? It’s my computer, I bought it, fuck him.
    • my computer is full of turtle stickers, fucker isn’t getting my computer
    • >:(
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  • [–] 22 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Come take it, you rapist weirdo piece of shit.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    That is what he meant when he said he envisions a future in which big tech is the owner of a tap that distributes skill and information to the rest of the world. This man is a walking crime against humanity.

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    AI is wasteful. Hell, he’s using up good oxygen, so he’s just as wasteful as his “product.”

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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago

    They don’t want us to be allowed any privacy

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago

    Said CEO of a company from USA that started wars and killed kids. Fuck USA, fuck their AI companies, fuck them and stop using their products.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    He should lay off the Crack. I wish we could all get him into rehab and then a 90 day hold for delusions of grandor and schizoaffective delusions.

    Maybe he'd be forced to step down if he was deemed mentally unfit for being an addict and a schizo.

    To be honest, I think Sam Alman is a danger to himself and others. He has that eye indentation that looks like he drinks at night or uses benzodiazepines recreationally. He looks like if this were to all go to shit, he'd probably kill himself, which makes me think he should get help.

    Sam Altman, also has too much of one of those hyper normal faces that makes me weary of his future intentions. Like is he gonna go military like musk did and start having low empathy responses and start having outlandish thoughts on how to treat military shit.

    Like I truly think Sam Altman might be a danger to himself and others and should be put away for evaluation.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Sam Altman doesn't believe the shit he says, he's just saying it to get attention and signal his dedication to OpenAI. Your comment denouncing him (and implicitly accepting his comment as real) is giving him exactly what he wants from you.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago*

    Sam Altman, long the face of the generative AI boom in San Francisco and around the world as the chief executive of multibillion-dollar software startup OpenAI, was pushed out by the company’s board of directors Friday. In a statement, the company said “The board no longer has confidence in his ability to continue leading OpenAI.”

    The company’s announcement said the decision came after a review by the board “which concluded that he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities.”

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240112010809/https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/sam-altman-fired-openai-candid-board-18499330.php

    They re-hired him afterward because apparently OpenAI can only keep up appearances when helmed by a chronic liar.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago

    He'd probably call people having money in their savings account wasteful since it isn't in his account.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Altman should have to lease oxygen.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago

    You will own nothing and rent it from us.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago*

    My home ram is idle a lot, it’s true. But AI datacenter ram is being wasted 100% of the time.

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