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Should I update my PS5 to enjoy a game or should I keep it on the same firmware in the hope of transforming it into a Steam Machine? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 weeks ago by to c/games@lemmy.world
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Hi everyone,

I mostly play on my Steam Deck these days, but I’ve kept my Playstation 5 for sim racing games (which are too demanding for the Deck) and an hypotethical Last Of Us 3 or another great exclusive.

Lately I got Project Motor Racing on PS5 and thought that I could play the updated version of the game while staying on the firmware I have (13.6) in the hope of one day permanently installing Linux on my PS5.

Sadly it appears that to play any other version than 1.0 of the game (which is apparently a disaster), I’d need to upgrade my firmware to the latest one, thus giving up on my hope of transforming the PS5 into a Steam/GOG Machine.

From what I know, it’s not possible to permanently install Linux on a PS5 for now as there is just a soft mod https://github.com/soniciso1/ps5-linux-loader, so I’m leaning on updating.

But since it’s irreversible, I wanted to know what you think and if I should wait a little while because a permanent Linux mod might be coming in the next few weeks.

And I know that buying a powerful PC would be easier than installing Linux on a PS5, but I’m tight on money these days.

Thanks in advance for your advices!

Edit:

In the end, I think I’ll just update the console and use it as a Playstation should be.

Even if one day you can manage to install Linux permanently, it’s probably not going to be as seanless as a Steam Machine.

And hopefuly in a few years, I won’t be as tight on money and I can get a decent Linux gaming PC.

Thanks for your advices!

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[–] 16 points 2 weeks ago

I think you should just keep the PS5 stock until it's not supported any more. The cat and mouse of having to fight updates to play the newest games isn't worth it.

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    [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I'd jailbreak it. Ive jailbroken every console that requires paid online. I'm not paying to play online. That's ridiculous.

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    • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    With all of the recent developments in the PS5 jailbreaking scene, I'd stay on your current firmware. A non-updated firmware may even be more valuable monetarily than a current one on the used market.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    What makes me doubt is that it still not possible to transform a PS4 into a Linux PC without exploiting the console at every boot. And this is after years..

    So I'm thinking it might never happen for the PS5 and I might just be waisting time waiting instead of just playing on it..

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    What makes me doubt is that it still not possible to transform a PS4 into a Linux PC without exploiting the console at every boot. And this is after years…

    Not an indication of what's going on with PS5 right now.

    The people doing the PS5 jailbreaking are making heavy use of current AI tools that are exponentially accelerating their progress.

    This wasn't a thing during the main pushes to jailbreak PS4, and no one's going to be focusing those current tools on the PS4 because it is obsolete now. So PS4 and PS5 jailbreaking can't be compared apples to apples.

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    • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    From what I understand transforming your PS5 into a Linux machine can get dangerous. Done wrong you are without both. Also when it is working games only work so well. When you play on Steam you’re mostly working with the Windows version and those drivers. Proton from what I understand probably isn’t optimized for AMD PlayStation drivers. Also PC hardware (like steering wheels , controllers) might not play well with the PlayStation motherboard .

    It’s more than possible to do. And in some cases the games run even better on Linux vs PlayStation. But depending upon desired games your mileage may vary.

    Research the hell out of it and make a decision then

    Best of luck ..

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    [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    I would not update. There's already talks that there is a jailbreak for 14.10 and that the "fix" Sony applied in 14.20 doesn't actually fix anything. I'm also holding out to install Linux on my PS5, just waiting for it to mature a bit so I can install something better than Ubuntu.

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    [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Imo as someone who sees console modding as an act of self-defence as well as a fun hobby of tinkering (plus not being a fan of online multiplayer or DLCs), I'd say "hold it" and hope someone makes a payload for running games in older firmwares than the ones they demand.

    ...Or emulate PS5 on Linux on PS5 😬

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    [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I'm considering the same thing at the moment so if you go for it and jailbreak it, definitely report back (please) I'd like to know how it went for you.

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    [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    My only concern is getting my psn account blocked.

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    [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    The best case scenario of updating it is getting to play the latest version of your games. The worst case is to not be able to install a different OS ever.

    The best case scenario of not updating is managing to get a Linux running there (whether it will be able to play any games is a completely different story). The worst case is you lose your PlayStation trying to flash the new system.

    Honestly I don't think it's worth bothering, the worst case scenario of one is much worse than the other, and the best case scenario of it is not that much better (in fact it's very likely worse, as I don't expect a PS5 to make a very good steam machine)

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 week ago

    Yeah in the end I went with your kind of reasoning, not because I was scared of breaking my Playstation 5, but because a stable permanent Linux for Playstation 5 might never happen.

    Especially, because I don't want to tinker on the Playstation Steam Machine, but just play games.

    So I plan on relying on my Steam Deck and Playstation 5 for my gaming needs for at least 2.5 years, until I get more available money and am able to buy a decently powerful Linux PC for around CHF 1000.- (around 1210 usd). I'm not willing to spend much more, so let's hope the prices don't keep climbing.

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    • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Think of both versions of yourself, in the future. How are you going to feel if it comes to it that you can do the things you wanted, (Linux to ps5) and you've updated so you can't. Is that going to sit in your head in a destructive way, is it going to run around your head on repeat just smashing up the place. Or do you think you can help yourself through that disappointment easily? Because if that's going to haunt you too hard, don't do it.

    It sounds like you want to update to play, it sounds like that's a very important thing for you right now. But It also sounds like you would like the freedom it will afford you, having full ownership and flexibility of your own devices.

    The question is how long do you have to wait and is it worth the wait.

    I think they'll definitely work this out and soon. These big companies have pissed people off to the degree they're pissing in your face, kinda pissed off. There's no coming back from that level of anger at their behaviour, and there are some brilliant people who turn that anger into action, it's going to happen and these people are going to guide us through and be a huge part of how we defeat the big corps. It will happen, but it might take a while (maybe a year or 6 months) and it's going to be glitchy.

    There is no right decision. The right decision is the one you make, and whichever one you do choose will come with difficulties that you have to help yourself work through.

    It's worth waiting, but it's also worth living your life.

    I suppose my only suggestion might be can you find a new hobby till the dam breaks?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    In the end, I think I’ll just update the console and use it as a Playstation should be.

    Even if one day you can manage to install Linux permanently, it’s probably not going to be as seanless as a Steam Machine.

    And hopefuly in a few years, I won’t be as tight on money and I can get a decent Linux gaming PC.

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