I mean... Why do you think they're all brooding malcontents?
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I remember watching a vampire show once, and the dude was turned into a vampire later in life, while he was unhappy with his body. I would much rather get turned into a vampire in my 20s than much later in life.
Can't they, just split and find someone else? Not all myths say new vampire is bound to who turned them.
There's also the community angle. If you're immortal, you're going to want an immortal support network pretty desperately at times
Your progenitor isn't just a partner, they're a gateway to immortal society. How long would it take to make connections that would survive a breakup? It'd be one thing if there were vampire nightclubs going on, but that's a pretty bad way to maintain secrecy
Some interesting power dynamics come into play
Underground nightclubs are totally fine unless a half vampire with swords shows up, and what're the odds of that?
One sword? Maybe ... Multiple swords???? They would never.
Turn others into your support structures
I see what you did there 🤣
That is probably the best option, if it is an option, and it opens some interesting implications for some vampire lore
So a new coven of young vampires is a threat to both existing power structures as well as secrecy, so there's some lore that vampires will hunt down unaffiliated vampires. Young vampires who turn many others could mean exponential population growth, and any rogue new vampire is a potential outbreak
I also like the implications of that for trope that romantic relationships are forbidden between progenitor and the progeny... It makes way more sense than hedonistic immortals have some inbuilt vampiric incest taboo
Exactly this situation makes way more sense
There's some interesting stories that could be written with this premise... It's the classic socially forbidden romance
In the World of Darkness ttrpg is implied that Vampiric love lasts usually some centuries unless blood bonds and used and even sometimes then they can be broken.
People have come down hard on me for this opinion but I never even take Astarion unless I’m doing an especially evil playthrough, which I’ve only done once. I cant stand him lol
As a dude that divorced the woman I married in my 20's, this sounds like hell.
But I love my wifeee and we are 20
Also, the vampire is 300 years old and attracted to 20-somethings
"Preys on" ≠ "attracted to", full stop.
Why not? Stories where that's both true can be viscerally terrifying.
I was referring to the original subject, tbf. Not in general. 🤷🏼♂️
Preying on young animals is normal: they taste better and are more tender. That’s why almost every pig and cow and chicken you’ve ever eaten is under two years old.
Hell, predators eat young animals all the time. They’re slower and dumber.
But converting one to be your companion is creepy as hell.
Sounds like parasite apologia. I'm certain the animals you cited'd be fully against their slaughter, or those like them. This isn't a "nature does it" discussion here —especially since the creature in question is literally not of the natural world, ergo "supernatural". 🫤
I’ve met the pigs I’ve eaten.
Never wanted to fuck ‘em.
I can see that as adaptation. Finding partners of appropriate mental age would become impossible if you perpetually looked like a teenager.
Except I didn’t like teenagers when I was a teenager. I can’t imagine liking them now.
Maybe you were unusual, I was attracted to people of my age as an adolescent.
So I guess the question is whether adolescent vampires have the same hormones as normal people and are normal.
Personally I prefer older partners for their experience.
What? Why? Are you claiming that vampires are incapable of learning and/or changing their behavior model?
I think in some mythologies that's actually part of it, for example in Twilight they literally keep retaking high school. (And someone turned as a child won't grow mentally, besides not growing physically)
In Dracula, van Helsing goes on and on about how the vampire has a "child brain", implying not only does it not mature over the centuries, but it actually regresses to an emotionally and mentally less mature state than a human adult would be.
In Twilight the high school thing is specifically because of the not growing physically. Nothing to do with mental.
They realized if they start in high school they can stay in one place longer. It adds more time they can be there without seeming weird. They go to both high school and college and then move on to a new place.
Good lord. Could you imagine having to relive high school years ad infinitum?
If I'm not mistaken one of them does touch on that. Something like they're just getting to the fun part (college) and they'd be pissed if they had to do high school twice because they had to move because of Bella or something.
Imagine how many teen girls can they stalk though
I would think they continuously grow mentally because of having decades and centuries of experiences, which makes it even more ridiculous that they would keep going to high school. There are ordinary people who stop going to high school and never go back. Surely a vampire could figure out how to make that work.
Ew. That one's the worst, honestly. "Vampire", bah. An immortal pedo is still a pedo, just for far longer.
Being immortal means they (and all other immortals) have to endure the heat death of the universe for effectively ever, so there’s that
TBF, I'd always assumed they'd grow in all ways but implied age... then, Interview and the glittery skeeze series came out, so 🤷🏼♂️
Sorry I'm not clear on what you mean here. What does "grow in all ways but implied age" mean?
Sorry, I meant that they continue to experience reality throughout their unlives and that alone's enough to teach a few lessons here and there without much effort.
They only appear as young as they'll ever be, and most go to great lengths to inhabit that expectation (hush, Nosferatu.) Additionally, the majority of vampire legends agree that vamps get more powerful with age —though they differ on how.
Ergo, "grow in all ways but implied age". 😁
Oh right I see.
Obviously the modern vampire has existed for just over 200 years and been told in many forms in that time.
It's been too long since I've read The Vampyre to be able to recall, and I've never read Varney or Carmilla to be able to comment on those, but the idea of vampires being emotionally stunted goes back at least as far as Dracula, where van Helsing monologues at length about the vampire's "child brain"—its simple-mindedness and almost instinctive/animalistic approach to going about its plans. And obviously you're already aware of how Rice's vampires are stuck at the age they were turned. Though as I write that, I wonder how that general trend in her books meshes with the portrayal of Claudia in Interview developing sexual feelings despite having been turned as a very young child. A retcon/something Rice developed more as the series went on, perhaps?
But anyway, my point is that the idea of vampires failing to mature is certainly not new as of Twilight or even the Vampire Chronicles. It goes back basically as far as the modern concept of the vampire. As for earlier vampiric folklore...van Helsing seems to talk about it as though he's discussing existing folkloric tradition in Dracula, but Stoker's idea of what that tradition was is very...idiosyncratic. It's hard to say how much that actually represents true folkloric beliefs, how much it represents Stoker's misunderstanding of said beliefs, and how much is the character of van Helsing. Regardless, personally I view the modern (post-Polidori) vampire as being so distinct from the folklore that there's not much value in comparing the two too closely when discussing vampires more generally.
Doesn't seem any more difficult than going to high school forever.
I had pretty good taste in guys in my 20s, not to mention a ton more self-confidence, so I think that would probably work out

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