No worries, I used to support the Democrats! But that was before I started actually paying attention to politics and following the news. As soon as I did, it became clear to me that they were just wolves in sheep's clothing, and are almost as bad as the Repblicans.

Not knowing things is fine, as it gives you a chance to learn and grow. It's chosing what to do with the new information that matters.

Online dialogue tends to disuade from that, and often pushes towards polarization. I apologize if I was overly polarized, as I often get attacked from people who refute information, instead of internalizing it.

...because several of them are obviously misleading...

More defliction because you can't argue a point. Which ones are misleading?

If you don’t think Trump and Biden are equally shitty, then what is the argument?

That you are wrong when you pretend that there's a substantial difference between Trump and Biden, and that Biden didn't cause massive devistation. They are only minorly different, and both caused massive devistation.

The debate is about whether or not voting matters. You’ve just said one candidate is shittier than the other, so I guess you prefer eating shit to taking an hour out of your worthless life to cast a vote?

I prefer fighting against fascism, genocide, torture, murder, etc. You are the one saying that we should support the people who support and commit fascism, genocide, torture, murder, etc.

Also, can you point out where I said that I didn't vote? Because I'm pretty confident that I never said that. I love how Libs have to keep making up arguments to yell at me about, rather than addressing the things I actually said. It's almost like they don't argue seriously....

Nothing you have argued is an argument that tells me I should vote for the orange child rapist.

Uh, you are technically correct, but I don't know what your talking about. I never advocated for you voting for him. I hate him more than I hate the Democrats.

I had no option on my ballot that doesn’t suck.

Then do a write-in

I am not going to run for office, and I am not going to die fighting the assholes that are in charge.

Yeah, giving up seems like your strategy. I'm saying that is a bad strategy, that has openly not worked so far.

I want better, but I have no power to do anything except throw my own life away.

Well, unlike you, I don't think fighting fascim and genocide is "throwing your life away". I think those are pretty worthwhile causes to fight against.

You also do have power, in other options than that: Help out locally at homeless shelters, food banks, street-cleanups, envrionmental cleanups. Pass out fliers, support mutual-aid groups, etc.

This is one of the grossest things that I've ever read. Have an upvote 🤮

What “massive devastation” did Biden cause? Be specific, please.

Backed a genocide, mass deportations, sent people to torture camps, fought against healthcare for all, bombed innocent people, increased military spending, broke a bunch of laws to help build the border wall, increased funding to ICE, helped build Cop City, helped do massive drilling for oil, shot down union strikes, took money from the working-class to bail out his rich friends. That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure there's plenty more.

You’re falling for the all-or-nothing logical fallacy. You can bucket both Biden and Trump as being shitty, but that doesn’t mean they’re equally shitty.

Can you point out where I said that they were equally shitty? because I'm pretty confident that I never did.

I generally vote Green, but, as little as I know about them, PSL looks OK too.

But other parties won’t get any seats.

I don't fight against fascism and it's supporters because I think I'm going to win, I fight against fascism and it's supporters because I think it's evil.

I know the Dems suck, I just don’t think you’ll be able to vote your way out of this shit.

Oh, yeah, 100%. I'm not saying voting is all you should do at all.

But I’m not American, so idk the intricacies of your system. What would you say is the best way to get away from the 2 party system?

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It's going to take a revolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0j0Bjy6hFc - How dragons fly and breath fire from Flight of Dragons

I see your point, but going for the worse option so people wake up is rather bold.

I don't know where you got that reasoning, I never said it.

I’m a white cis man, I’d be the last person to really have any consequences from that. And I can’t gamble the safety of other groups like that.

As a fellow white cis man, not only are you gambling with the safety of other groups by voting for the Democrats, you are losing that gamble on a daily basis. When the Dems have been in power, they've been kidnapping, torturing, mass deporting, etc marginalized people all the time. They also help and enable the Republicans. They aren't fighting against the Republicans, they are on the same team, building out the same system.

I’m not saying be complicit. Strike, protest and riot. Make your voice heard. Call for a parliamentary democracy, whatever.

Sure, but know that the Democrats stand side-by-side with the Republicans to stop that type of action from being successful.

Just cast your vote for them so the country goes to shit a bit slower and prepare for actual change in your spare time.

I'm not sure that's useful. The Dems are a short-term subtraction of harm, but a long-term multiplication of harm. When they get elected, the fascist system keeps getting built out, but it's all hidden away so that it's not so obvious.

Voting for a 3rd party will never give them any legislative power...

Yeah, that's what I want. I dont want the Dems to have power. Just like I don't want the Republicans to have power.

SQM? https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/traffic-shaping/sqm

Thanks, that sounds like the exact problem that I've been having with my openwrt setup

One of the best things that my parnter and I try to do, is say things like "I'm sorry, I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at $x" or "I'm sorry, I'm just really hangry right now, can we talk about this later?"

When I say those things, not only does it help my partner understand, it also helps me internalize how true it is.