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Paramount+ is the epitome of enshitified. (piefed.ca)
submitted 3 weeks ago by to c/enshitification@slrpnk.net
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Open it to continue watching a show- 2 minutes of ads. Find the episode, start it- 2 minutes of ads. Forward to the part I left off at, 2 minutes of ads.

Fucking garbage.

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[–] 55 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Pause the show? Believe or not, ads

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    • [–] 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I disagree. I don't think that Paramount+ has been enshittified.

    Because that would imply that it used to be good once.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Also, while it was never good for customers, it also hasn't enshittified on the production side yet.

    In a couple of years^1^, when their library looks like an Amazon search result, with AI-generated films by studios with household names like UBOOPI or SUWEEMA at the top of every category, then the platform is fully enshittified.

    ^1^: barring the more likely scenario of the AI bubble already having popped.

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    • [–] 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    YouTube changed their app to double dip ads too. Previously I could connect to my TV, then play a video on it. Now I have to start the video on my phone, which plays ads, then connect to the Tv, which plays more ads before the video. Advertisers will never be satisfied.

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    • [–] 35 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

    Have you tried sailing the high seas? no ads out there...

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Even pirating media from Paramount isn’t worth it. The bigger the audience their media finds, the greater space it takes up in the cultural mindshare, regardless of whether or not it was paid for.

    The only answer is to treat the media produced by fascists and their enablers as material as toxic as their politics. Nothing of value is here, what is here is dangerous and repulsive to us, it is best left shunned and undisturbed, etc.

    There is no shortage of independent creators making terrific work who are starving for an audience.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 weeks ago (26 children)

    No PC. only access to the internet is through iOS.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

    Are there not torrent clients on iOS?

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    Either way, I’m not watching TV on my phone.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

    So my process on android is torrent direct to phone then cast/UPnP to TV

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  • [+] [S] -14 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

    So in order to circumvent ads. I have to add several different apps, learn how they work, and then set it all up?

    Seems equally annoying. Man I fucking hate how things have become.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

    It's minimal effort to learn, I could teach my 6 year old nephew hire to do it in 5 minutes. It means no ads and no monthly subscription.

    But if you prefer to pay for the opertunity to watch ads and give money to a trump supporter then that's your choice

    You clearly wanted to moan rather than be given solutions to your problem, so sorry for trying to help

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  • [+] [S] -8 points 3 weeks ago* (9 children)

    I chose neither. It’s fucking ridiculous to pay someone else money to do the same thing that paying the app would result in the same outcome. It’s a lateral move regardless of what you tell yourselves.

    Either way someone isn’t getting my money.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    I'm not sure what you're talking about with paying someone else.

    You know totrenting is free, right?

    I think the upnp app I use I paid about £2 for about 13 years ago, that's about about one and half pence per month and falling. There's free options available too.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Depends on what country you're in. In America you could face legal consequences for torrenting without a VPN. Which does cost some money but it's still far cheaper than paying for streaming services. Unless you're taking HDD prices into account... I haven't done the math again since those things quadrupled in price.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    You’re entirely missing my point.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Because you're ignoring the alternatives. You moan about how shit paramount plus is, then when people offer alternatives you kick against them.

    I get that it's frustrating how crap the ads are, but there are super simple alternatives to get the content you want without worrying about ads.

    I see the point now, you just want to bitch and moan about the world, and that's valid. So sorry again for offering an alternative.

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    The alternatives are just as bad. Don’t get upset because someone doesn’t want to take your advice. You offered it, I appreciate it- but to me it’s a lateral move.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    You're wrong. But you're entitled to be wrong. So have a good day.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I’m wrong about my own opinion? Well hell! Please, tell me how I’m wrong about other things as well!

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Your opinion that to you it's a lateral move is yours to have. Stating that the alternatives are objectively just as bad is factually incorrect. Unless you want to do a lot of goal post shifting from your original complaint about paramount plus. .

    Option A (your current solution) you download and learn to use an app, you pay money each month and have to watch, by your own account, a lot of ads to get the content you want. Some of your money goes to allies of Trump every month (up to you if that last part is a positive or negative). It's legal, some people say it's immoral.

    Option B (pirating + casting to TV) you download and learn to use two apps, you download the content you want, pay once for an app if you feel like to supper the developers. You're not giving money every month to Trump alies (up to you if that last part is a positive or negative). It's mildly illegal and some people say it's immoral.

    Option C you don't get to watch the content you want. No legal or morality issues but you miss out on stuff you were interested in.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    Try a seedbox. You can even use them to stream your downloads. I download torrents all the time on iOS with one

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    I just don’t have it in me to learn all this stuff just to watch TV. It sucks the way it is. But at least I don’t have to try and understand a whole new technology just to get it to work right.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    You can have it standing up within 30 minutes and $15/month. Nothing to learn, it’s all web apps.

    Whatbox.ca. Load plex/jellyfin, a torrent client, and sonarr. Honestly, it’s not hard.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I can pay less than that and not have ads on the app. This is barely a lateral move.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    They why aren’t you?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Because I’m not giving money to someone because they think annoying me is the only way to get it. We don’t reward bad behavior where I’m from.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    To be clear, I’m not suggesting you pay them. I’m suggesting you either live with ads or do something about it.

    The $15/month seedbox gets you anything, not just what’s on Paramount.

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    • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago

    And look, given who owns Paramount+, they can just get fucked all around.

    They're never getting a penny from me.

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    [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago

    Thankfully my jellyfin server has no ads.

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    [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I would have cancelled after the first ads. You're paying them and can't even browse the catalog without ads?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Can't trust anyone ever. TV used to be "Free" but you had to endure some ads. I found a VHS recording of Kqrate Kid a few years ago and it had really short ads. They started to cram more and more ads in. What if we play shows at 1.3 times the speed and cut some shit out? One more ad. I think at that point i'm just too autistic to watch ads. My sister always says that she doesn't mind, she just records everything and skips the ads. Now, with some blockbusters, apparently you can't do that anymore, so she's just back to ads. I don't think i have seen a TV ad in 15 years at my place. Now you pay for streaming AND watch ads. It's insanity to me. I just couldn't, i'd rather not watch something anymore tbh.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I’m not paying for shit. It’s free with our T-Mobile internet.

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    • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    And yet you still pay for it.

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    • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    they have absolutely no problem charging you money and forcing you to watch bullshit ads, but you just can't live with yourself if you obtained the show without paying them

    lol

    sorry for your luck? i can't even remember the last time i even saw an ad, and i feel fucking great about it

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Im the type of person they hate, I got the service along with T-mobile internet. Technically, I’m not paying them a dime- and since they seem to subject people to annoyance after annoyance to entice us into paying to not be annoyed- I never will.

    I just assumed this fit the description of something that belongs here.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Technically, I’m not paying them a dime

    because offering this "extra bonus 'free' package" brings them more money than if they were to charge you, because of the contract you signed, and the data you're giving them. for free. honestly i would pay a dime if it meant skipping 2 minutes of ads followed by 2 minutes of ads

    but no one has to do that. search up mullvad, buy some VPN for $5/month and go from there. i honestly don't get why anyone even creates an account on streaming services anymore, let alone pays them

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    which one do you use

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Right now, IVPN.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    Again, not paying. We’re hitching along for the ride as a result of something we’re already getting.

    And No contract. Just using the service as long as we want to have it.

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    • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    https://wiki.dbzer0.com/piracy/megathread/

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    [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    I'm amazed at how advertising has infiltrated tech like a cancer. Fuck "Tide" and others and their subsidizing of the tech bros. Intrusive bastards.

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    [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    enshitified

    enshittified

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    • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I grabbed IPTV about a month ago now and it's been the best decision I've ever made concerning television and movies. All sports. All VOD. Every streaming service. I only really got it for hockey but the value is immense. I think my first month is just about up and I'm ready to go year to year. Honestly consider it.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    If I could watch Picard on that- I would.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Not to judge your taste, but of all the Star Trek shows, that's the one you can't go without?

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    • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Reading the comments, you don't want to pay to watch ads (fair) but also you don't want to pay and learn to use a new app to watch without ads... well... try turning off the TV and read a book.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Product placements exist in books and reading a book is not always practical. TV or audio you can turn on in the background.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    You are right. But people before me have been trying to offer them alternatives so they stop seeing ads and they kept moving the goalposts because they just wanted to be right. And the only solution then is just turning off the TV. You won't see any ads and you won't need to spend money or learn anything new to avoid them.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    You’re a bit of a dick, aren’t you?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Fair enough. After all, my bio says I'm a lot of things but not a velociraptor so I guess that one fits too.

    However, I'm just stating facts. Several people before me have offered you solutions for you to stop viewing ads (your main complaint) yet you dismiss all of them because you don't want to pay more or to learn a new app because you don't have the time. However, you do have the time to come here, whine and dismiss others when they try to help you.

    Idk mate, looks to me like you just want to whine for the sake of it. And in that case, well... go read a book: no ads, no sub to pay and no apps to learn.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Just can’t stop, can ya??

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    You might want to check what does it mean to post on a public forum. People can reply to what you say. If you don't like it... books don't do it.

    Anyways, enjoy your ads!

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 3 weeks ago

    I get it now. You’re that guy that just can’t refrain from being an ass while pretending to give kindly advice!! I know the type well, I few up with one of you.

    Blocked. (It’s the only way you’ll shut up)

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