"Won't somebody think of the kids?!" while they admit to using the data to squeeze more money from ads (translated making your experience better). They don't deserve the communities they have anymore.

Soon any company you interact with will have enough information to ruin your life because there's always a way for some employee to get the data even of you really do what you promise and don't save anything.

As GLaDOS said - it's been fun, don't come back.

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[–] 93 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't worry, your data will remain private. We'll have it, and we'll sell it, of course, but that's our right. Also, we might be hacked when some bad guy guesses our Pa$$worD, or we make an oopsie and leave the entire server open and unencrypted. But, other than that, your driver's license is safe with us.

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  • [–] 55 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I love "all photos are encrypted so your information remains private". Encrypted to whom? Private from whom? I don't want you to have it! I'm more worried about you then the guy at the coffee shop. He can already see my face!

    You're going to have a hard time judging my age by a photo you can't decrypt, so don't pull that shit with me.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    They remain encrypted, but also stolen, decrypted and sold. It's like schrodinger's cat, but there's no one to observe the state.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    They forgot option 3: uninstall the app

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    They're counting on the vast majority of their user base being driven by FOMO.

    I fear that those of us who are willing to cut ties and go elsewhere are a very small minority.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Fuck FOMO. I'm LOMO. The Love Of Missing Out.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    An overwhelming amount of Reddit is now just bots, insane out of control mods, and morons. Using AI to immediately ban if you try and post certain words is bullshit.

    Reddit can eat shit, it’s Orange Turd loving CEO can fuck right off.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 weeks ago

    Yah... My old (abandoned) reddit account is quite old, if you cant prove im not a child by the account being two decades old, thats a you problem. Find me in 2029 and we can talk, but until then, were going no contact.

    [Updates DNS and router block list]

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    I wonder if there would be a market for life-like heads on… like… a ventriloquist dummy type of thing…. And I very much mean for security bypassing get your filthy mind out of there.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Many of these services won't accept a static image, which is all that site provides.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I've seen some of the tools in the UK are fooled by AI generated pictures. Kind of funny to see if they end up in a database and shit starts getting regurgitated like the human centipede.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    I was just thinking that, since it's easy to generate a video long enough to satisfy their requirements. That's probably what I'd do if any of my services required this (but they don't, yet).

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I read somewhere that some kids used an AI generated image to fool the age verification. It sounded like they just printed it out and took a selfie.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Wonder if there's a free site that can generate IDs using AI?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    When they functionally banned pornography in the UK, someone made use-their-id.com which generates driving licences (for satirical entertainment purposes) of the politicians who supported mass Identity Verification.

    I hear that it is apparently accepted as a driving licence on some pornography sites.

    When one of those sites gets their ID-storing database hacked, I'm sure we'll find what we knew all along: Keir Starmer is a wanker.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago

    At what point do we normalize a civic duty to avoid parasitic data miners

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

    Quit reddit, you, filthy animal!

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Sadly there's nothing many people in the communities here. I would live fo vet rid of it completely but it doesn't seem that I'd be able to get as much help here, e.g. about my motorbike, as on reddit - it has a dedicated community there with quite a lot of people wich sadly isn't happening any time soon here.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    There's not nearly enough sports discussion here for that. None of you Linux nerds talk about football/baseball/hockey. (Or Magic, for that matter.)

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Then start talking about it, that sounds interesting, and I would genuinly love to hear about those topics, you, filthy animal.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately my interest in the topics does not extend far enough to be the one digging through statistics and press releases. In the 1-9-90 I'm a 9.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    (I am a 6 on a good day, but I don't brag about it)

    You should not disclose your age on the internet, my fellow human. This place is full of creeps. In any case, I hope you may find fun and interesting things in lemmy. Also, if you want to contribute, that'd be great!

    stay cool :)

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Lemmy isn't enough, and that's fine.

    Find you some old school internet forums. They're still out there, and it's not quite as much a "one Boomer and his 2 buddies" as you might expect.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    There might be more sports discourse if you participated in it you know.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    In a literal sense sure, but not in a way that matters. As an example: The New England Patriots subreddit has 900k subs. It has dozens of posts made in the last 24 hours, with anywhere between 5 and 200 comments on each. The largest Patriots community here, patriots@lemmy.ml, has 338 subs and literally no activity in the last 9 months. Five weeks into the season!

    That's not a problem that can be fixed by one person's can-do attitude, that's a problem of scale. Lemmy needs to grow 100 times over to even approach that kind of experience.

    Now, I don't think lemmy needs to feel like reddit. But I also think it's small-minded to be like "just stop using reddit" as if there were viable alternatives.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    I remember back before there was enough football fans to even justify team specific subs on reddit. It didn't happen by magic. More people kept talking, that attracted more people, and so on.

    The point being that no community has ever grown without participation. If you want more people talking about football you got to actually talk about football. I don't know if I've ever seen you in the NFL community. There was a game thread just a few days ago, you could have talked about the Patriots in that thread. They were playing.

    Though I do agree the propensity of people on the fediverse who try to create little niche communities right away is a giant failing. Instead of doing it naturally and organically by making larger General communities that eventually get big enough to split off they try to create little ones right away and that fragments everything. I wish there was some way to stop that, or at least delete dead communities.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago

    Besides the recommendation to drop sites that demand privacy-breaching validations, seeking the legal venues is important too, else people will just lose ground as they try to avoid the issue.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    BTW, OP, unlike reddit, on lemmy you can edit your post titles :P

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    I thought its possible on reddit too? Good catch, a wrote this angry and tired and I use an app that I'm not familiar with. Great time!

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    I refuse to give this information outside of serious financial or governmental proceedings, where you might expect that you will have to deposit a proof of identity.

    I'll rather drop every single platform requiring this then to engage with this circus. "What about the kids" my ass.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah, one thing is a bank or a government and another is this... Everyone and their mother will have my id and I have to believe it will be safe?

    What about the kids? How is their data protected with these systems where security it quite often an afterthought?

    Also - they apparently think I'm a kid, why are they still serving me targetted ads? "What about the kids"?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    "All photos are encrypted.."

    Why the Hell do you need to fucking store them? If I rejuvenate to a 12 year old?!

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Surely some mathematician knows some magic cryptography to do age checks with zero trust and no data shared?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Zero-knowledge proofs and anonymous attestation - the problem is you still have to prove your identity and age to some trusted entity using a certificate, similar to a physical ID. But if you can get that, you can then anonymously prove your age. Assuming the verifying site trusts your issuer. Also assuming they trust you didn't borrow somebody else's device. Also assuming they don't ask for more and more proofs until they can identify you anyway.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    EU has some controversy RN over trying to do this.

    They want to make an app that does this basically.

    It loads/verifies your ID/passport and creates a signature /key valid for some time. Then if some app wants to verify your age it derives a key/signature/whatever with your age bracket attached and the app is happy knowing that you're e.g. 15-18, that the app used a valid signature and apparently nothing else.

    There's supposed to be a FOSS implementation of it somewhere too.

    I do feline it one bit and I don't remember the exact mechanism it's supposed to be, but at the very least this appears to try to be actually for the kids. However someone might still be able to bakr in calling home (the app is the trusted party here) so a government might be able to log that person xyz logged into pornhub or something.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Just recently I had to travel to Germany by train on short notice. The German online ticket portal also wanted my ID and selfie when paying because it was an iNtErNaTiOnAl journey. I just booked it through my local country's international ticketing portal and they didn't even mention it.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah my state just started this now. What the fuck. I dont remember seeing a vote on this shit.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    “Let’s not”

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    I was like "which shitass site is that supposed to be" and started reading below Reddit and started laughing, i'm already gone ha ha bye Felicia!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Identity theft 'bouta pop off crazy style in the future.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    So fucking glad they perma banned me. I don’t even want to accidentally support this bullshit by having an account. Some gifts seem to wrap themselves.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    There will still be dumbfucks who will do it happily

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    I wouldn't really put it like that. There a reason many people who just don't understand it.

    I bought a lock for my house. A professional locksmith can easily call me a dumb fuck for choosing that one but with the knowledge I had I chose the best option I could think of.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago*

    I can just connect to old.reddit.com without issues. You might try that. If you can't, may be due to laws in the area associated with your geolocated IP address.

    EDIT: I can also just connect to the new UI too, so it's probably your IP address.

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