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[–] 153 points 3 weeks ago (43 children)

Gonna be trying furry convention next month

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  • [–] 130 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Becoming a furry just to get in a line of work is like changing religion for the community support

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  • [–] 33 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    Child care is expensive - church offers that.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Im sure there is a hidden cost that youre not seeing.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    yeah, pedophilia, indoctrination, cult based on lies, and shame culture that is based on lies and falsehoods. probably more. but child care is so expensive.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    Depends how good you are at playing the part, without actually doing any of the bad stuff. Churches vary, but often, it's one of those places where the tribal symbols are more important than actual substance, so taking advantage is very possible.

    See: Whatever super-rich televangelist. If you're doing something similar, because you're poor and can't afford childcare, there's an argument that's not even bad, then.

    Edit: Although, if OP means Sunday school or youth group specifically, the kids are going to be exposed to some shit, which you'll have to manage. An adult telling you you're going to burn alive, and that's good, isn't really fun for an 8-year-old.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    without actually doing any of the bad stuff.

    They all indoctrinate children, and while you did comment on that shared tradition later, it's worth highlighting as unavoidable β€”not to mention heinous as it attacks the unarmed and generally trusting minds of children. 😒

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Yeah, I'm not actually sure what OP meant, now. If your kid's in Sunday school, aren't you going to be spending time in the service, anyway? I guess if you just dropped them and ran, it'd be hard for them to say no.

    Maybe you could get away with that when they're really little. Once they're school aged, leaving them unsupervised would be better than in the hands of whatever bunch of church ladies, and the Catholic church has a whole other layer of reputation.

    From their perspective, we're the ones trying to hide our children from ideas that are correct and vital, so they can justify it to themselves. Trying to defend the standard, evangelical version of hell is harder, which is why it's good to bring up.

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  • [–] 39 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

    Let me know how that goes.

    Is there an Intro to Furry Guide and a FAQ?

    Are there classes I can take to get Furry Certified?

    Do I need to engage in sexual activity which doesn’t align with my current non-furry orientation?

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  • [+] 47 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
  • [–] 44 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    There's 2 types of furries:

    I paid a ton of money for this fursuit, I don't want to ruin it by having sex in it!

    I paid a ton of money for this fursuit, of course I'm going to use it for sex!

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    There is a much more common third type of furry: "I want a fursuit soooo bad but I don't have $10k+ lying around so in the meantime I guess I'll go to furry conventions and {have sex,just hang out} without one"

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    So, they're furry adjacent, optimally. ☝🏼

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    It's a one question quiz, actually:

    Do you want to be a furry? Yes or no?

    If yes, congrats! You're now a furry.

    I'm actually an asexual furry. So no, you don't have to engage in any sex at all. I like the aesthetic and I've met a bunch of my friends through the fandom as a shared point of commonality.

    Probably the biggest question you'll get asked as a new furry is "what is your fursona?" If you say you don't have one, everyone will make a pitch to try to sell you on theirs. (psst Maned wolves are cool.)

    For a more in depth explanation, take a look at furscience. They're an actual research institution studying the fandom.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Maned wolves are cool

    As someone who lives where they are naturally occurring, I can confirm that they are cool. There's also a specific tree (lobeira, Solanum lycocarpum) that's essential to their diet and needs those wolves to reproduce.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago*

    I'm guessing people would be weirded out if they knew you weren't actually furry-inclined, so it's probably more down to being a good actor, if you're just there to network. And then basic networking skills, after that.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    Same...maybe then i find a job again lol

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    I found joining a job search counsel via the book never search alone to be helpful. You didn't have to read the book first because reading the book is part of the JSC.

    Might be worth your time looking into it.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Im looking for work and trying to understand what you said.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (8 children)

    Here: https://www.neversearchalone.org/jsc

    I would also recommend the book Take the Work Out of Networking.

    I've talked to several recruiters, and outside of entry level positions none of them are interviewing anyone who doesn't have a referral because there are so many referrals they find enough qualified candidates before they get to the non-referrals. That's a product of just how bad the job market is.

    I'm about to post two jobs myself with a total comp of ~$180k and I already have enough referrals that I won't interview anyone that isn't a referral. And the posting isn't even up yet.

    The JSC via Never Search Alone paired with Take the Work Out of Networking has all the skills and advice needed to navigate the current job market as successfully as possible.

    I wish you all the best, and am happy to answer as many questions as I can if you'd like.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    We live under a extrovert dictatorship.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Woah, this maybe a good way of contributing what seems to be a skill I have. Not trying to brag but as a 33 year old skidmark on the national economy, I am currently batting 1000 on job interviews over my life. I have multiple times just quit a job on the spot and had a new one before weeks end. I'm not sure why, or how, but I have never been interviewed and not offered the job. Mind, none of them have required "skills" or "education" beyond what I've picked up along the way, they could be called entry level jobs but I've never really seen a path upward in any of the companies, doesn't seem to work like that anymore. Just jobs, ~$40k a year usually with benefits. I have always had a hard time understanding why people who "can't find work" don't just take a job that's available while they look for the perfect one. Spoiler, I have never found a perfect job, aside from working for myself.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    Because often, if they can even get it, the "job thats available" is so physically/mentally demanding that job searching while you have the job is untenable. They often dont give leeway for job interviews, so even trying is risking your only source of support for the vague chance of something that might be better.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'll pick up on one piece, humbling ourselves to take a job we see as below us is hard. I've done it before and it was a huge ego hit. A friend who's been unemployed for over a year is facing that now. It's not an easy path.

    And some income is often better than none.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Congrats on your new job in Quantico?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Ah this place where careers go to die. But they love animals there.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I'm sorry I don't really know the reference. It seems to be a TV series or a town in the US

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yeah it's a big military/fbi town. The joke was the FBI removed the exemption of people who've had sex with animals. I never thought I would see that reading the news.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    An early job of mine was in the FBI Academy cafeteria. Very familiar with the area. Forgot about the β€œloving animals” reference, so it took your explanation for me to catch the joke.

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  • [–] 80 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    I feel like a lot of people involved in the hiring process are incompetent and shouldn't be there. Like you have HR people who can barely use Word asking if you know Java or JavaScript

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  • [–] 25 points 3 weeks ago

    As someone who briefly worked in recruitment, the amount of people interviewed by people who have no frame of reference for anything about the job requirements is astonishing. Some people may say "but surely not for the high-level positions-" No. Especially for those positions. Because people like owners and c-suites want final say. And guess who knows nothing about these positions. Them. They literally hire presidents and vice-presidents based on vibe. Technical positions see a lot of this, primarily because even a bad interviewee is going to know more about their job than an executive whose primary job is the "idea and vision" guy. Just spit enough jargon, laugh at their jokes and you're in.

    For reference, that company had a head of maintenance who as a friend of a friend of the owners. He just delegated the whole time and hit on any woman he found half-attractive. Thought he was just an asshole until I heard that he had honestly asked a production manager which side of a tape measure was the inches and which was the centimeters. Guy gave a visual run-down on how to use a tape measure to him. The head of maintenance. And he said thanks, and that he'd post it in the tool shed for his staff to reference. It became clear that he delegated everything because he literally didn't know about thing about his job. I would be surprised if he could point out a phillip's-head. Apparently he had the same job at a nursing home before that. I shudder to think of why he may have lost that job.

    A few months after he got inevitably let go, he delivered my dominoes pizza. I don't look down on jobs like that, but that felt good.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    A month after I graduated college I got an interview for a springboot position and I was telling the guy about my springboot project and he was like "we don't actually use springboot here, we use kafka instead" and I was just like wtf. Dude supposedly had 10 years experience as a dev and somehow my fresh out of college ass knew more than him. (Didn't get the job, still unemployed and its been a bit over a year since)

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Yup I had a HR personally message me saying the person I recommended doesn't have a certification needed for the job. They have that in a different state, getting it in the state the job is in is as simple as saying "hey I passed the same exams you guys take (it's national), I'm registered and practicing in that other state, can I get approved here?" And they say "sure". It's small documentation and a bit of waiting period, but that's shorter than the training period of the job itself. I said a bit about that but they're like they don't have it in this state. Which I'd understand if it's just a way to say no without saying that person is not qualified for other reasons. Because most other openings I see in our industry gives the candidates 6months to get the certificate because it's easy

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I need to find a better phrase than "cargo cult" but I see a lot of that at work. People who don't understand why a system is the way it is become fanatical about doing it particular ways.

    Like, you have to do "file -> save as" into the directory. If you save it somewhere else first and copy it that's NO GOOD

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yeah. I think sometimes it comes from using a lot of shitty softwares that only work with "happy path" so they like to repeat what works and won't experiment (because that means repeated work).

    I have a lot of "we have to do it this way", me: "this is better", them: "we always do this way".

    As well as, me:"hey it's easier this way, I think clients will like this way, even if we do the original they have to switch eventually", them: "no, they asked for this, we NEED to do this", me: "can we ask?", them: "...", i talked to the clients and they were already thinking about the new one and had no problem, saved us weeks of work trying to back port an already existing solution

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I just had a flashback to one of my first office jobs.

    They had weekly reporting that needed to be done, and someone non-technical had been assigned to do it. They had like gone into the database and copy-pasted records into excel, and the whole operation took a full day.

    I was like, "Hold on. What? You know you can script all of this, right?"

    Luckily my boss liked me, and let me go ahead. Changed the task into an hour, including making whatever charts and slide-deck management wanted that month.

    Though I do wonder if sometimes doing things badly is a weird pro-labor move- They get paid the same if they take all day versus an hour, so why bother speeding it up?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    I think that's honestly how it goes. If you're efficient and just get more tasks, or get called off for not working (if you're done with work and doing something else), then you have to pace yourself. Lot if work I get is copy paste this from here to here that takes hours, I could have written an script to do all that in the time I spent cooy pasting, but then I'd be the only one who could do it again. Even though the next time it'd take 5-10 minutes

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago*

    At past employers it has seemed to me that most of what the internal recruiters do is look back and forth between resumes and job descriptions and throw away the resumes that don't have enough bullet points matching.

    And now we have AI that can do it even worse and even faster!

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  • [–] 89 points 3 weeks ago

    Honestly though, I searched for at least 6 months before my brother in law was like "I might be able to recommend you to a guy I know at a company I used to work at" and within the month I was hired.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 weeks ago

    I hope I don't need to go this route. I'm currently looking for a new job, and I barely know anyone who can give me the hook-up.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    I’ll repeat this to everyone and it’s not because you’re looking for jobs incorrectly, it’s because you said you lack the β€œhook-ups”. Professional social sites like LinkedIn are critical for this very thing. So even if you absolutely HATE JOE, you connect because one day Joe will be employed and you might not be and have low enough standards to refer you for that $500 hiring bonus knowing full well you hate his guts.

    So send connections to people in same and higher roles as you work with them like the professional corporate slut LinkedIn wants you to be so that one day that asshat joe willingly sells his soul for $500 and gets you past the first line of interviews and you get a job. But until then, attend local job field events and make new friends.

    Good luck out there to every unemployed person.

    P.s. Fucking joe is a fucking cunt.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago (-1 children)

    I had been applying for a year and a half until one day one of the companies was having an open house kinda recruiting event. I went in and the manager said that based on my resume and lack of relevant experience he wouldn't interview me. He's now my boss.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (-1 children)

    I have no real experience to back this up, but I feel like nowadays dressing up in a full suit and tie for a computer science job interview would be overdressing (if you are not going to work for a bank). I generally go with just suit pants and a button up shirt and that seems to have worked fine for me so far.

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    [–] 23 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Wait... How do I get a job at a furry convention? And is that job "full-time pet?" πŸ€”

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I hate that I know this, but there is this running gag that furries are mostly made up of computer geeks who are in rather advanced positions within different digital fields. Everything from cyber security to CG animation in kids movies.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    there is this running gag that furries are mostly made up of computer geeks who are in rather advanced positions within different digital fields

    The joke I heard is that a plane going to a furry convention crashing would cripple the IT industry.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yeah, that is probably the most famous joke. There were also a lot of jokes when the "live action" pinocchio movie came out that the reason the fox was the only well animated thing in that movie was because they got the furry artist to build and animate the model. I believe it. That fox was animated with passion, lol.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Feel like I need to start going to furry conventions during my next job search.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    "My Dad runs the furry convention"

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    i reckon you could walk away from a con with a new job, living situation, and even a romantic partner if you wanted. furries are weirdly good at networking for how often they’re treated as weird pariahs by normies.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    As a furry that doesn't attend conventions, this is having me reconsider it.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago*

    The suspiciously wealthy and poweful furries support more then the arts. Thank you for your community service my furry and scaley friends. The world truly rests on the shoulders of your suit.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    I've found that having an opinion helps in job applications, from personal experience. There's so much AI garbage being thrown around in terms of job applications, so if you can throw in an actual opinion about something, especially if it's tech related, then that might at least stand out.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    How do you put an opiniom on a resume? Or are you talking cover letter which at least half of hiring managers don't even read?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    my CV has objectives, code skills, and infra skills right at the top: 1 para each

    work experience also has some relatively plain english: achievements and responsibilities as bullet point sentences

    all of these contain opinions somewhere… usually in the form of β€œi thought and pushed for this, worked great”

    objectives is almost entirely opinion: the way i think about systems and what i want to achieve in a professional context

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Interesting, sounds pretty different from the format typically recommended. Would you be willing to share (after taking out any PII of course)?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    laid off a few months ago and I've been searching for another senior software engineer role in the US for far too long and have gotten to the point where I'm unironically considering applying to places with a resume that is just a few bold sentences about my aptitude as an engineer.

    Not because I think it'll work, but because you just start grasping at straws when a decade of development isn't enough to get past ATS and your resume looks like everyone else's.

    What have I got to lose? I only even get denials 40% of the time anyways, the other 60% they don't bother responding at all.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Knowing a guy is a goated strat tbh, hardest part is being competent enough that someone you know would vouch for you

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    sounds like you’re not faking it enough

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    why fake it when you could be good at what you do?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    I was out of work for four months spamming resumes on different job websites before a recruiter cold called me and got me in at my current place so can confirm. Out of five different professional jobs I've had, only one of them has been off of job search platforms :/

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