I used to use Gentoo about 20 years ago.

Whether you use them or not, they have been a huge part of the OSS community, and they're worth supporting

I'd go as far as to say they helped pioneer USABLE distro's that basically worked with compiling source code

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[–] 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Omarchy getting millions of dollars of donations why gentoo sits underfunded is so sad

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  • [–] 67 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    So Gentoo needs more money but Omarchy gets millions, maybe they should be sponsoring Gentoo instead.

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  • [–] [S] 68 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Those fascists don't care about Linux in general.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah they just wanna normalize their awful, idiotic views. Fucking asshats.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago*

    Also it seems like there is an effort by enterprise to move everyone to making software off FSF licenses like GPL to less restrictive licenses like MIT so they can wholly capitalize on open source effort without having to make their own software open source which I think is an underlying part of it

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I hate Google, but considering chromiumos is based on Gentoo, maybe it's time they sacrifice some millions they made to Gentoo. Only pocket change right? Who am I kidding, selfish companies will stay selfish.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    one of the the most important distros. wtf

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Genuinely asking, why is it important?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Gentoo is one of those distros that actually gets people to learn about their compuers, and as someoneelse has said the wiki is great. tmk a few innovations from the Gentoo "ecosystem" like features of init systems make it into other distros, similar to Arch.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    You can learn about Linux and computers without having to compile everything. I’m sure Gentoo is important but your answer is negligent. Does using Fedora make me less knowledgeable? This assume if I do not HAVE to compile then I must be too dumb to learn Linux by reading voluntarily.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago*

    Your answer does not follow since I did not say that compiling is what makes people knowledgeable. Gentoo isn't merely compiling. Binpkg repos exist and suffice for a lot of users.

    Gentoo is unique in that it explicitly gives you maximum freedom in designing your experience, at the same time it implicitly forces you to learn since there is no straight forward process of installing the OS and designing/tweaking your setup later on. If you mess up, you can't just simply do a reinstall or go back any other way willy nilly (in most cases), you have to do the software equivalent of an open heart surgery. Going from Debian to Gentoo has a lot of friction associated with it.

    Portage makes you read updates, and is very clear about issues. At every turn in Gentoo there are opportunities to learn. This comes at the expense of comfort, but it pays in other ways. You are better off understanding Gentoo as an exercise in minimalism.

    Just as your initial assumption does not follow, neither does your suggestion that I'm implying users of other distros and OSes can't become knowledgeable.

    Have you ever even tried Gentoo or invested time to understand it?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    For one, it is largely responsible for supporting and maintaining OpenRC on Linux, and is often the go-to-distro that other distros piggyback off its OpenRC configs and scripts.

    Being probably the biggest source-based distribution, it provides invaluable work on developing a system which can be compiled from source that other distro maintainers can look to for guidance.

    Portage is also one of the best package managers I have used. It takes into account packages that need to be rebuilt when build dependencies also update. On Arch Linux, I sometimes have to manually reinstall a package like qt6ct when KDE dependencies update. Portage takes care of this automatically when doing a deep update.

    In a time when many dystopian laws and surveillance tools like age verification and facial recognition are being enforced, we do not have many distros left that could provide security and privacy measures to bypass these issues by supporting alternative tools. Tools like systemd, which has merged the pull request to include a birth date field in preparation for age verification, tend to develop a monopoly on most distros because of the limited capacity and free time developers have to support alternatives while trying to keep up with other projects. I'm not trying to bash systemd, though, but the fact it is the most dominant init system on most major distros creates a problem for users, especially activists and journalists, who need to protect their identity in this increasingly threatening and dangerous capitalist hellscape.

    Gentoo supports many, many packages. It provides the ability to create a system using various combination of tools coming from the GNU, BSD, systemd, and other families. While other distros like Arch may also provide some alternatives, not many distros come close to scale that Gentoo offers. If Gentoo cannot survive, it would be a massive blow to FOSS and our technological sovereignty overall.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Gentoo is probably the most customizable of the Linux distros, as you can compile from source, adjust C compiler flags to optimize application speed, remove compiler level features if you don't want/need them, and they support a LOT of computer architectures. Not to mention the Gentoo Wiki is a gem of documentation that surpasses (imho) even the Arch Wiki.

    It's potentially the best Linux distro for tinkerers up there with Arch Linux and NixOS.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Eeh, tbh it has a lot of infoes but it's poorly organized and structured

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, fair. Again, it's imho, that the Gentoo wiki still surpasses the Arch wiki (emphasis on humble opinion).

    All that considered, it would be a considerable tragedy to lose Gentoo as a distribution in the Linux ecosystem. It offers something no other Linux distro does. Namely complete customization surpassed only by LFS (i.e. Linux From Scratch).

    On a bit of a tangent, I personally think the recent popularity of AI points to not the superiority of AI/LLM utility, but rather to the enshittefication of modern search/documentation.

    I think the Gentoo wiki, for all its flaws, is still a genuinely important part of the online documentation of how everything works. Sure, it's terse, its verbose. But after the summary, don't you eventually come to the thought "sure, but why? Why run that command? What does that mean? What does that ultimately do?" I'm not saying the Gentoo wiki answers this (ultimately this boils down to a CS/Math question), but still, the deeper question and the slightly deeper answer matters. It's important that is documented, publicly somewhere. It is important you shouldn't have to query an LLM to get that answer. Any wiki is better than some corporately gate kept LLM answer.

    Hence, why I still think while imperfect, the Gentoo wiki is important to maintain.

    It is my hope, that while perhaps you may not agree with my humble opinion, that you might at least sympathize with my view.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago

    From a health-of-the-Linux-ecosystem point of view, Gentoo developers seem more prone than those working for other distros to actually pay attention to things like broken build systems or test suites, and file bugs against them. This is especially the case for exotic arches that the developers of some software claim to support but don't themselves build for (but it affects amd64 too).

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    I'm giving Gentoo $10/month now.

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    I have been donating for many years. Small amounts surely, but it's the least that you can do for such a project like Gentoo.

    It might be niche and pretty peculiar, but it's unique and probably the truly most open Linux out there. And also, pretty important, zero drama.

    Also one of the few alternatives that let you freely choose if you want/need to use systemd network manager Wayland or whatever tech stack you prefer. Without holy wars, stupid preconception or fussiness.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Wtf they've done for the sponsors to pull out?

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    [–] 39 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    What's behind in the drop of sponsors?

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  • [–] 51 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Their post does not say but I'm sure the current economy is no small factor. Businesses are tightening belts because things are only expected to get worse. Sponsorship of a dwindling Linux distribution is an easy cut to justify.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I wonder what the number of users is various distros. I used Gentoo on my desktop around 15-20 years ago and really loved it, but now I prefer vanilla Debian. I think Arch took over a large part of the Gentoo user base.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Gentoo doesn't do user stats, so it's impossible to tell.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I know, I was thinking more along the lines of the Distrowatch popularity ranking of which specific pages get the most hits (and Gemtoo pretty low down these days).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I would expect Gentoo's rankings on Distrowatch to be lower than its actual uptake. I mean, it's an oddball distro, an old and well-known one whose reputation probably spreads more by word of mouth than anything else.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago

    Gentoo is losing sponsors while a certain other distro keeps raking them in.

    We truly are in hell

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    Modern bitches too dumb to stage1 without AI.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Linux accepts LLM code so I swapped to OpenBSD. It's a shame but I really love the community and humanity that comes from people, human beings, working together towards a goal.

    I used Gentoo for a while before that and loved it but, alas, the community and Linux as a whole just doesn't share my values.

    I would say, for anyone using Linux and looking for a change of pace, OpenBSD is awesome and is still in that space of "respecting the user"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    OpenBSD has it’s strong suit and niche of Agency and Department usage across the world and does not give one snap, crackle, or pop about “users”. Thems the beans.

    Also, I should sponsor Gentoo this is bad news and a harbinger.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Ironically I rather like the fact that OoenBSD's culture is a bit anti-user.

    In my older age I'm discovering that being regarded with derision is another type of respect. Linux, like Windows before it, caters to its users. The BSD's respect you enough to assume you're smart enough to cater to it.

    It helps that kernel code base is orders of magnitude smaller than the Linux kernel.

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    [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Gentoo is ❤️

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