"We value your privacy - give it to us"

And it barely contained any information, too.

It doesn't, they want an internet connection so they can track your food usage and then sell your more food, they want your money forever

The fridge app can use the phone's microphone to find out which compressor frequencies resonate loudly in the room, and avoid them.

When everyone's phones are away, the fridge can pre-cool and make noise, and then go silent when someone is nearby, according to the motion detector.

The issue is actually why it needs to run a entire OS just to brew coffee with 5 or so options over remote?

I just worry we're not going to have a choice.

The smart part isn't the problem.

The internet connection is.

Use smart devices on protocols like Z-Wave or Zigbee, which set up their own separate network. And then prevent the controller from ever reaching the internet so none of the devices can access it. Through things like Mac Blacklisting.

You will still be able to access everything while on your local network.

Not defending. But it can be used to send notifications when the door is left open or the temp is too high. Same with *washers when they send you notifications when they're done or when there is an issue.

The problem is that cooperations are gready bastards, instead of using the tech to do just that, they mine it to get more out of their customers.

Look at cars, a screen is great to show reversing camera and navigation, but the greedy automakers use it to display ads, spy on your habbits, replace physical buttons, ... etc

Telnet lacks auth. It needs ssh.

A more legit use case is checking status. Is the coffee ready?

While I really don’t want to compliment Samsung, my “smart” range has a config to disable/enable remote operation. I can see when it’s on, what temp it is, when the oven is up to cooking temperature and when the timer goes off, I get notifications but assuming no holes or bugs it cannot be controlled remotely.

You might ask why they would ever allow “enable” but that’s a different question. They probably feel they have to because the “smart” feature costs way too much money for notifications and statuses.

It’s also based entirely on a tweet with zero follow-up or explanation as to what happened. People have lied on Twitter in the past, shockingly.

Okay, but here me out. Maybe coffee makers shouldn't have a way to generate data.

So what?

Well you drink coffee in the morning so it's probable that you go to the bathroom soon after.

Oh your did laundry on Saturday the weekend? I bet your don't do laundry during the week because work. Maybe you won't be home around then...

Opened the fridge door at 6:00 pm and it was open for 2 minutes? I bet the person is hungry. Quick flash their marketing ID with ads for fast food!

Stuff like that is what they use the info for.

If you wear a smart watch that monitors your heartrate. You bet your ass they know when you have sex and when you need more condoms.

The more info they have about you, the worse it gets.

And even if the company just uses your right to privacy just to make money through ads. You can be sure they will get hacked by people with even less morals.

They can use all that data to open a bank account on your name and commit tons of tax fraud.

Who do you think they will arrest? That is right, you.

And getting out of that will always cost you tons of time, effort and money. So good luck.

What kind of fucking psychopath leaves the fridge open for 2 minutes?

So.... How do we pronounce IoT? Is it I O T or eye-aught?

Until you're wanted for murder and your fridge habits prove your alibi and you're exonerated.

What about people who are doing other things?

• I’m getting dressed and would like notification when the coffee is ready
• I’m out doing yard work, but want to be notified when the laundry is done so I can feed the next load

While I could do one thing at a time, or use a clock or at a timer, getting the notification makes it stress free

Think of it as equivalent to the dryer buzzer. It used to notify us when the laundry was done so we can start the next load, but apparently we need a more complicated way to do that

Home grade router counting can’t be that inaccurate. I just counted mine and found one.

I think you misspelled "left at the recycling center".

Can't give me one of those things.

Yeah, this is what happens when you roll your own coffee protocol.

They should have just stuck to the standards.

YoU WoUlDnT dOwNlOaD a CoFfEe!?!?

He needed more beans

But what is it uploading?

I understand the logic behind why a coffee maker can take on orders, although it feels pointless to me - Some might want freshly grounded beans and being able to start that process from bed could safe them a whopping thirty seconds while scrolling the fediverse.

I guess it could upload a notification, out of beans, screw is loose, shit is malfunctioning. But downloads should be magnitudes larger than downloads, yet in incredibly small payloads in all directions

418 I'm a teapot

The screenshot they shared showed 10GB down and 1000GB up.

From the article:

For those wondering why this is on my network, this belongs to my parents. I don’t police what they buy. I just help with their network, but this is a learning experience for them

It's not user error to use a product as designed. Pointlessly designing products to connect to the Internet is corporate error

Most of these things are user error

HTCPCP: Am I a joke to you?!

Man discovers his parents’ coffee machine used 1TB of data in 10 days

its also the worst kind, keurig machine, polluting asf.

close, keurig, the worst kind of coffee machine