More than just 'what app are you using', but I do want that as well.

I want a good mindset for downloading music that has what I want and at least some of what I'll probably like.

Currently, partially as a limitation of the app, I have every song in every album that contains something I like. This works well ish for discovery, but I know less than a quarter of my library, no matter how much time I spend listening to new music. This was with Lidar + tubifary (Tidal and Slskd only).

Currently I'm trying Downtify configured with slskd and yt as a backup, but it seems very slow to download and the app itself is very laggy.

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[–] 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don't know all this fancy stuff. Like, yesterday, I wanted to listen to the songs from the anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya so I grabbed them from nyaa, moved them from the "Downloads" directory to the "Music" directory and then played it with VLC.🤷‍♀️

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If it works, it works. Don't fix what ain't broken.

    When you run into issues of scale, hopefully the ecosystem is a little more forgiving

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Personally I just use Nicotine+ to grab whatever I want as a .flac, then use beets to organize them.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Newly created account account asking where our pirated sources are and asking for quite intimate details

    Interesting

    🤔

    Y'all are way too trusting

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I download albums (through piracy or not) and add them to my modest mp3 collection the same way I used to buy CDs — once in a while when it seems like a good idea. If there's an album I don't think is worth listening to again, I delete it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I open amazon music and copy over all the album and single links from an artist I like to lucida to download them all as flacs, then I use an ffmpeg script to convert them all to 320kb mp3s. I reformat the names and metadata and put them into my music folder.

    I enjoy my music.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago*

    Occasionally yt-***

    But mostly relying on old big library of mp3s from oink’s 20 years ago.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I'm still very much in the process of finding what will work for me. Music Assistant to somewhat merge my YT Music and my locally stored files in one workflow. Last.fm and Listenbrainz scrobbling for generating recommendations for me. Maybe in a while I'll feel like I don't want YTM anymore, but right now I still find it hard to leave it fully. Lidarr and Tubifarry are also part of my stack.

    On 'good mindset': I'm afraid that's still something that needs attention, and I hope to find it with what I currently use as I'm still too comfortable streaming YTM.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I pay for Spotify, but since some of my favourite songs are not available anymore (they're greyed out, as if they lost the rights) I decided I won't renew. Back to piracy!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Newpipe : download audio VLC : play audio

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Acquisation:

    • Buy CD and then rip with ExactAudioCopy
    • Buy media from various sellers like Bandcamp, ototoy, Amazon Music, etc. (basically the official vendor that sells the artists music)
    • Acquire FLAC or MP3 through various means lile nyaa, slskd, indexer, DDL

    Manage:

    • Lidarr. If not available in Lidarr, create entry in musicbrainz, wait 7 days then import

    Listen:

    • Jellyfin
    • Symfonium
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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Dropped needle (newer version of musicseerr) plugged into lidarr and slsk. Using musicbrainz. A few good indexers/sources on the back end set to flac and high quality versions for the profile. Relatively fast and good coverage overall. Slsk helps to fill in the gaps

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Mostly rutracker + jpopsuki.

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  • I have Lidarr setup to track album and singles releases from a handful of artists and bands that I am really, really into so I don't miss something. Mostly, though, I acquire new music the same way I always have, something catches my ear somewhere and I go looking for it.

    Discovery is kinda all over the place, but lately Youtube has been pretty good at suggesting new artists and tracks to listen to, though, it is occasionally hard to actually acquire said track or album. Other places have movie and tv show soundtracks, ListenBrainz recommendations and occasionally an actual radio station..

    For the most part, I've moved away from pirating music and audiobooks as it's generally pretty easy to find an above-board source that is either DRM free or can be cracked easily. When I do pirate something for whatever reason, I'll usually go back later and purchase a copy. I would rather support the artists since I usually have the means at present and most of the artists I'm into aren't really all that big. I really wish that ebooks, tv shows and movies would get the damned hint and do the same..

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Soulseek. On Linux I use Nicotene.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I get my music from discord servers and sometimes soulseek if I can't find a song or album, and then play it using USB Audio Player Pro since I use an external dac. Symfonium is also another great player with a highly customisable interface that I sometimes use

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I second the Symfonium recommendation - Feishin is a great desktop player as well. Click the now playing album on the bottom left for a full screen mode with visualiser/lyrics/up next screen present alongside the now playing info 👍🏼

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Symfonium is a paid app. I use Tempus (which is free) and while it has fewer features, it's more than enough for me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It's so worth it for the price (it was like $1.50 in my region) Tempus looks great, it Reminds me of Oto Music which is also another great free player that has the fastest library scanner I've found in any player I've tried which is very useful if you have a large music library like I do

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I am on a music private tracker called Orpheus.. I download everything I want from there. I also have navidrome, it automatically scans the folder for new albums and I have transcoding enabled so whenever I play music it transcodes to opus 162kbps. That's if.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I usually walk into a music store, fill up a box and scream "bye bitches" and leave.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    Download torrents, organise by artist/album and manage/consume it with Plex.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Lidarr, and YouTube Music with last.fm scrobbling.

    Lidarr monitors my last.fm scrobbles and automatically downloads anything I've listened to enough.

    I also manually add stuff to lidarr that I've heard on radio stations like 4ZZZ, or as soundtracks to movies and TV shows I'm watching.

    Currently at 2.8TB on my music library.

    I'm pulling from torrent sites as the preference, with Usenet backup. FLAC quality, and CD source. I've also ripped all my CDs, and updated Musicbrainz for stuff that didn't already exist there so it works nicely with lidarr.

    Tried using Soulseek but it's laughably bad. Wrong tags, gatekeepers who have ludicrous restrictions on their libraries, and most music is just (poorly) downloaded from streaming services anyway.

    I use Plexamp for listening, or YouTube Music. Mostly I'm just downloading it because I know at some point in the future I'm going to crack the sads with paying the price YouTube Music charges. Seems to go up every month. When I get rid of it I want a decent library ready to go, and a nice listening history so the the recommendations aren't total shite.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    How did you glue together lidarr and last.fm?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    slsk! When Audiogalaxy got shut down, that’s where we fled to. Not as much these days since I have a Deezer sub, but every now and again the completionist in me wants the flacs for offine. Have a large repository that goes back to the late 1990s when EMusic accounts were being shared and there were no gates to stop that. Was like backing your pickup truck to the Amoeba Records loading dock and filling er up!

    Soulseek is kinda weird now. Wasn’t always full of gatekeepers and the stuffy folks. Time changes things, I suppose. Some of my old slsk friends are still on there.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I get music from a variety of sources. Mostly torrents or soulseek. Both are hooked up through Lidarr but I also like to use the soulseek daemon web UI. I also buy off Bandcamp and download from the browser. Less often I get files from friends. All sources lead to "inbox" folders for Beets-flask, which handles tagging and then importing to the actual library. Navidrome serves the library up for clients. Koito handles scrobbles.

    I've been trying out Aurral for recommendations and playlist generation but I'm not loving it. Pretty quick I learned it wants me to stream from it's subsonic API (in place of Navidrome) for best results. I can't figure out if it will work just off my Koito scrobble history.

    Will try Audiomuse AI at some point. Auto playlist generation would make my stack feel more "modern" I think.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    On a similar note, I've been curious if that's a tool that one could feed a playlist into and have it return another playlist, based on the former's genre, tone, bpm, lyrical theming, etc. I'm not even sure how to begin searching, though. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    Also, I have the slimmest idea of what to recommend here, sorry. 🙇🏼‍♂️

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You can kinda use audiomuse? Scans your local library and by way of a plugin can generate songs that sound like a given song.

    Doesn't work on a whole playlist, but this is a start

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I tend to look for specific songs. If I can't find something on Bittorrent, I'll look on all the p2p networks, and if it's not there either, I'll settle for downloading audio-only off of YT.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I use soulseek and the FMHY list of sites for acquisition. As far as discovery, no idea really. I'm still working on getting my Spotify favorites downloaded for now. I have kinda gotten back on last.fm for scrobbling and hopefully some discovery, but honestly I connected mpdscribble and haven't looked at it since.

    Navidrome has been on my radar for unifying mobile access instead of syncthing duplicating everything, but I keep putting off setting up a home server.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I used SyncThing for years, but once I got into self hosting, I never looked back.

    If you ever decide to bite the bullet, reach out, I'll help how I can. Self hosting is the fun part of listening to music.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    It's mostly for a lack of equipment, storage, and money for it paired with decision fatigue on how to go about it and overwhelm from all the things I want to host... So I sit with the old laptop I'd use and dink around with learning nix->guix, daydreaming about the whole thing and hardly getting anywhere lol

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I buy loads and loads of old vinyl records from various discount bins, flea markets and thrift stores. If it's 1 or 2 €: I often just buy blind if cover is somewhat appealing to me or because artists names ring a bell for me.

    If I like what I hear, I obtain an mp3 copy of it (various sources) for my library. If I really liked it and can't find it digitally (it happens): I record my own vinyl record to have a digital copy. My file preference is mp3 VBR. I think flac is overkill for most basic soundsystems and human ears and they are not worth the enormous filesize difference.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Lidarr for discographies and keeping up with releases, deemix for downloading singles direct from deezer. I often only like one song from a release and hate having to filter through full discographies to find the one thing I like, so this works great for me. Deemix is also blazingly fast.

    This all goes to jellyfin and i play it on my phone with symphonium.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Good old Soulseek, but filtering by opus.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    youtube playlist and yt-dlp. most of the music I listen to isn't on other platforms

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    yubal to grab stuff from yt, then some scripts smashing Claude and beets together for more intelligent automation, then navidrome for serving. Occasionally I'll use slskd for more obscure stuff. Tempus is my current Android player of choice.

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    YT Music Morphe -> YTDLnis -> VLC

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    For streaming/discovery, custom cli application that scrapes Bandcamp 'recommended' albums to get associations between them and considers what I've liked and disliked for probability weights determining what to play next, playing them with mpv.

    For actually downloading stuff I like enough to want to save, I have a dedicated button to take the url in my clipboard and save audio files from it to my music folder with a script that uses yt-dlp

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  • I have a streaming subscription on qobuz, and use qobuz-dl to download anything that’s available to stream on qobuz. I tried using soulseek for a bit but it was sometimes a bit hit-or-miss with my searches, so the qobuz stream-rip option seemed like the best compromise. I’ve still got soulseek running, though, so whatever I get from qobuz is made available to the community.

    I use Lidarr to manage my library. If you don’t mind running the plugins branch, there’s a qobuz-dl plugin that will let you utilize this method to download albums directly through Lidarr. Qobuz often has multiple versions of an album that can be hard to differentiate in the lidarr UI, so I often just end up downloading the specific version I want and then importing it into lidarr.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    i used to download from deezer when public ARLs were extremely easy to get and use, but they got more restrictive recently. these days i just soulseek.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    do you have any guides on how to use soulseek? is it safe to use on public wi-fi? (And will I get a letter from my ISP lol)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    soulseek is very easy to use. everyone shares a folder on their computer, and one can query keywords on everyone's directory listing and download off of them.

    install the client nicontine+ (on desktop. if on android, use 'seeker'. there's none for ios), choose a nickname, set a shared folder, optionally fill it with some media you already have, and you can start using immediately. i recommend setting the shared folder the same as the soulseek download folder so you get to share what you download.

    since soulseek is P2P and requires direct network connection, at least one of two peers need open ports. so if you have open ports you can download from everyone, but with closed ports you can only download from those who have their ports open. so, port forwarding is optional and not strictly necessary.

    i haven't ever heard of receiving letters from ISP because of soulseek, since it's surprisingly quite under the radar for some reason. ISP letters are usually because of torrents. but still, soulseek protocol is unencrypted so it's not impossible. because of this i don't recommend usage on public wifi. use it through a VPN if you can.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Jellyfin + Nicotine+

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    get the original cd/vinyl/non-remastered (there are exceptions) release flac from nicotine+ for my desktop, convert it to 96 kbps opus for my phone.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't pirate music, I buy it from Bandcamp. Then I download the files to my storage server and sync it to my phone, or play it with MPD.

    I wish I could do the same with movies and TV shows....

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    You may like to check out Subvert.FM, a cooperative successor to Bandcamp, (the latter was bought by Epic Games, not a reputable company unfortunately). The platform is owned by its members: artists, labels, supporters and workers and runs on a democratic basis.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    :(

    Bandcamp is an American online music distribution platform, founded in 2008,[1][2][3][4] with an office and record store in Oakland, California.[5] It was acquired by Epic Games in March 2022 and sold to the music-licensing company Songtradr in October 2023; about half of Bandcamp staff did not receive offers to continue under the new owne

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandcamp

    Songtradr is an American B2B music platform that helps to facilitate brands, content creators, and digital platforms in their use of music for licensing purposes. As of 2019, Songtradr was the largest music licensing platform in the world

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songtradr

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    nicotine+ also I make playlists in Spotify and download them with onthespot, and then finally use old school forums for niche bits.

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