I've been the weird environmentally conscious kid for more than 30 years. People's attitudes haven't changed. The arguments haven't changed. You'll still find people who immediately get excited about global warming, because they like warm weather.

Some people are just astonishingly stupid, and yet, they walk around and talk and have jobs and can appear to be normal. That's because they are normal. It is normal to be stupid.

I know scientifically minded people who view it both as 'hysteria,' and for what remains, something that geoengineering can solve in the future.

In other words, look up the WSJ article advocating for fossil fuel production maximization as a net economic optimization in the long term, basically 'better to maximize efficiency and minimize suffering now, to better geoengineer solutions in the future.'

...I read geoengineering papers. They are horrific. As in "our state-of-the-art-solution would... pour acid rain over the ice caps. And it's still economically unfeasible, but less unfeasible. And maybe it will blunt things some?"

I'm offended such arguments are being presented.

But I can see right where those opinions come from, as with every twist of climate change denialism.

The environmental conspiracists are right. It really is Big Oil and such groups, from what I can see.

Here they claim it as a "natural process". Good ol denial

it reminds me of this quote from game of thrones, is not the same thing, but it gives the same vibe about the scope of people's thinking and worries: "The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends. It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace. They never are."

I already didn't get a winter last year. It was 60°F almost the entire time 🫠

wintern't

The Winter of 2000 was also like this. We were working on our cars with t-shirts, in Minnesota, and it was 42-50(something) a lot of the winter.

Funny. My parents say the same thing. "This is just fear mongering. We had warm Autumns in my childhood."

Then I go look into the actual data of what their warmest years were and it's nowhere near what we're experiencing these days.

I don't hate 'Muricans (with about a 60% notable exception for those who voted orange, or sat idly by)

But I HATE 'Murica

It has always been a shitty, cruel, vulgar place

Class warfare? Naaah

Generational warfare!!! WOOOH!!!

They need to do something with the coal, this way at least smoke and sparks fly while she does parkour with her walker. It’s only a problem when she’s downwind from it or the mall isn’t outdoors.

True, but it is hard to ignore that the a certain class seems to be centralized/condensed to one generation specifically. And that generation also consistently and energetically supports them to the day they die.

People over 55 own 73% of the US, heavily outweighing billionaires. Boomers alone outweigh billionaires assets by nearly 10x. Any time you see BlackRock, Vanguard, etc as major shareholders of a company, that means it's mostly boomers' 401ks and pension funds. Billionaires themselves are mostly old so really they're just the top of the iceberg of a much larger problem.

Gen X might be the last generation to retire in the US, for millennials it's starting to look unlikely. There just aren't enough people to exploit anymore. Ideally everyone should have 3 kids, but as an interim solution you can start importing workers from 3rd world countries.

Other western countries may not have it as bad with the imbalance, but most are growing worse over time.

Well idk, most of the billionares are rich and white and old also. Meme still kinda fits.

Tbf they voted for them

Fossil fuels, petrochemical refining and usage, industrialized meat "farming," clothing/fast fashion, cement.