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[–] 136 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Surprisingly, that man is an established rapist and has neither apologized for nor retracted the ad....

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  • [–] 54 points 1 month ago (20 children)

    Coming from a convicted rapist “fair shake” is very likely being given essays, a slap on the wrist, and no chance of formal convictions.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I'm still shocked they made them write essays, no punishment at all would actually be less insulting.

    How does one even begin with a "I'm sorry I did one of the worst crimes imaginable." essay with a straight face? I almost wanna read the essays because I'm sure they'll make me sick and I fucking hate myself.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    I don’t undestand how they could even attempt to write something that shows any true contrition. Leaving aside the question of whether any of them actually believe that they did anything wrong and feel regret, wouldn't writing any truly meaningful esaay leave them open to procecution? (Although, I guess that would only br a risk if we lived in a world where the police and procecutors give a shit).

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    How does one even begin with a "I'm sorry I did one of the worst crimes imaginable." essay with a straight face?

    I doubt any of them went that far. There's no way they'd admit guilt in an essay. These kids have lawyers.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    How do you right an "I'm sorry" Essay, without taking responsibility?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I imagine something like: "It's unfortunate that I got caught. Next time I'll be sure to keep the fun off electeonic communicating platforms. I'm sorry daddy, I'll be more careful next time."

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    He's not a convicted rapist. It was a civil case, which is about liability, not guilt. There's no such thing as conviction or acquittal.

    He's a man a jury found to be liable for sexual assault, and that's how we should describe him.

    It's important that we be correct, because the other side jumps on any tiny thing that's slightly wrong to justify their outrageous lies. Don't give ammunition to the "both sides" assholes.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    You can't help but give ammunition to "both sides assholes", because it's bOtH sIdEs!

    Also, we're the majority now (40% of voters are independents). Because your party sucks

    You should support whomever demands the truth; they're not the assholes. the truth hurts, take your medicine

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I don't know why you're attacking that dude. He's right. Trump wasn't technically "convicted" of rape like he was convicted of 34 felonies for fraud. He was found liable for defamation for lying about his sexual assault (colloquially accepted as rape) of E Jean Carroll. A jury found it more likely than not that he raped Carroll and lied about it. That a jury said, "yeah he probably raped her" is damning enough.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I’ve seen the term “ajudicated rapist” used a bunch. Basically the judge did assert that Trump did sexually assault Carol but since it wasn’t a criminal trial, he was ajudicated, not convicted. If I recall correctly, NY pretty much only considered an incident to be rape if it penetrative and using a penis, so that’s why it’s SA rather than rape. I think their laws are different now so it would be considered rape today.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)
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    Oh I see it was supposed to refer to Trump. Donald trump is not a convicted rapist. Convicted means criminal charge and it's not that. He was found to have raped jean e Carrol in civil court and definitely has raped many more women and children.

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    Bruh stop simping for a serial rapist.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago

    I'm surprised he hasn't invited them to the Whitehouse for a dinner yet sad lol

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Crowdfund a full page ad that is an updated version of his Central park 5 and but with the Cornell 7 boys info and a bonus panel of Trump's sexual assault record.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Law protects but doesn't bind, law binds but doesn't protect...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    As a Son of The Revolution, that needs to be fixed.

    Washington wasn't wrong when he cautioned against partisan politics. He said we shouldn't do it as he left office and that lasted all of an hour before we created the partisan politics that has been destroying us ever since. None of them knew that FPTP would be as detrimental as it is. That math wasn't done until the mid 1800s.

    Washington was wrong about plenty of other things, but not that.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    For context this is in reference to Trump's reaction to the Central Park Five in the 90s in New York City (I think the 90s?)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Did you know it's illegal to say "We should kill the president"?

    https://youtu.be/o8jdzfHvCI8

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    [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    Used his unearned wealth and power vested therein to spread bigotry, social sway and misinformation in one case. Then, uses position at head of political cult, White Nationalism and as "potus" in the second. Immoral and unethical in both. With the "potus'" place in the Justice System of the USA, not theirs to comment in any other than a neutral manner for fear of swaying opinions concerning the matter.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    I don't watch the news anymore because it feels manufactured. Who's defending the rapists?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Tons of people are claiming that it's a "Men's Rights Issue" and that if she consented to sex, she consented to rape. A lot of "Regret is not rape" bullshit that ignores the fact that she initially consented, but then seven people raped her.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    I think the issue is that the initial report lists her as always consenting to everything and the men respecting when she said no to anything. Also how she was not really considering it to be anything like rape until everyone found out about it and then she was uninvited to the Halloween party (which she still planned on attending btw).

    I think the disconnect is between “feels rapey” and “legally rape.” And I don’t think that any of the right is defending it as morally good or anything just saying that her feeling taken advantage of after the fact cannot be grounds for it becoming rape, in a legal sense.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Didn't she only say yes to the first three guys, not the seven that came after?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    She said a lot of things is kind of the issue and it is clear via the texts that her own opinion on it changed as outside opinions started to judge her based on what happened. I swear that this kind of gray area culture war thing is brought up less organically than we think. An item that is less than clear cut appears and each side is fed a slightly different version of the story leading up to an election that reminds them how terrible/removed from reality the other side is. It’s almost like it’s an election year or something.

    And I say this as someone left of the democrats - it’s just exhausting seeing the same thing play out over and over again.

    And I’m sure even I am missing information on the case as every source leaves out pieces that don’t support whichever side they happen to be for.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    And I don’t think that any of the right is defending it as morally good or anything

    Buddy, I guarantee there are people literally saying that she deserved/still deserves to be raped.

    I'm not sure why you're here pretending that conservatives aren't vile.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    And the American media seems perfectly OK with it.

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    .. because they learned something from the previous experience, right‽

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