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[–] 153 points 1 month ago* (4 children)

Mostly True

Looks like the srychnine was intended as a performance enhancing drug, but Hicks was carried over the finish line by his team, so he should have by rights been disqualified.

Some pretty crazy shit, all in all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_1904_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_marathon

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  • [–] 77 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

    From the wikipedia:

    While Frederick Lorz was greeted as the apparent winner, he was later disqualified as he had hitched a ride in a car for part of the race.

    Seriously go read the wiki, this post barely scratches the surface of the nonsense that went down

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    From then until the end of the race, Hicks received several doses of strychnine – a common rat poison, which stimulates the nervous system in small doses – mixed with brandy and egg white.[3] This was the earliest recorded use of performance-enhancing drugs in the revived Olympic Games.[6] He continued to battle onwards, hallucinating, and was barely able to walk for most of the course. When he reached the stadium, his support team carried him over the line, holding him in the air while he shuffled his feet as if still running.[6] Hicks had to be carried off the track on a stretcher, and might have died in the stadium had he not been treated by four doctors. He lost 8 pounds (3.6 kg) during the course of the marathon.[6]

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  • [–] 62 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    I would watch the shit out of this as a movie. Why isn't this a movie?

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  • [–] 44 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    It would be a fantastic comedy film, but could be seen as too far-fetched.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    "Based on a true story"

    All you need

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I mean I guess....

    I just watched Coyote v Acme the other night, and that movie starts with "based on a true story." I can assure you that it was not.

    Turns out that title card does not need to actually be true

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Technically, Game of Thrones is based on a true story, since it was based on the War of the Roses 100 Years War.

    It doesn't mean "non-fiction." It just means the idea was based on something non-fiction.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (2 children)

    So what true story was Coyote vs Acme based on?

    I'm aware it doesn't need to be the exact story, to be ACTUALLY based on a true story.

    However, movies and TV shows are under now obligation to fit that criteria just because they put it in a title card.

    Another series that comes to mind is the Fargo TV series where the intro to each episode says it's based on a true story or whatever. And that show has aliens in it and shit. It's also explicitly not based on true stories, aliens or not. Putting it before every episode is a form of dark humor.

    A quick Google suggests that the original Fargo movie was also not based on a true story.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's not a legally binding term - it can be used sarcastically, or as a plot device. Has someone been murdered in North Dakota ever? Close enough to count for Fargo. Is the Fargo show based on the movie that was released named Fargo? Maybe that's what 2 writers thought up at 3:42am on a Tuesday. WHo knows.

    Specifically with Coyote v. Acme, it's one of those "no reasonable person would interpret this as being real" standard. It's a cartoon coyote. It's a joke. It should make you laugh because it's obviously not based on a true story.

    You can't possibly understand that Fargo using it was a form of dark humor and then expect that a movie about a cartoon coyote should be based on a true story, right? What is this cognitive dissonance?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    You can't possibly understand that Fargo using it was a form of dark humor and then expect that a movie about a cartoon coyote should be based on a true story, right?

    Jesus Christ how stupid do you think I am? I was using that movie specifically to show that your original comment I replied to (maybe go back and read it for a refresher) says that the disclaimer means that it's at least based on some sort of non-fiction.

    The entire point of my reply was to point out that no, that's not the case at all. That literally anyone can put that disclaimer before anything.

    There is zero requirement that anything in the story you're about to watch is true. It's a plot device.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)
  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Na, man. This whole story is fire.

    First new Olympics outside of Europe held in... St. Louis? In the summer? Ick.

    Things were such a mess that only 12 nations showed up.

    First ever use of the 3 medal system (gold, silver, bronze).

    Tug of War was a legit Olympic sport.

    The "Racist Shit" was the incomprehensibly terrible human zoo stuff. Bonus that an Indian Boarding School girls basketball team apparently played. And then they had competitions like "baseball throwing" for the human zoo folks.

    This isn't even worth a movie. A whole season of 6 or 8 one-hour episodes. Easily.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Also, I believe the guy who finished first was disqualified for riding in a car for part of the race. I could be misremembering though.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago

    Correct he was riding with the car for nearly half the race, assuming Wikipedia is correct. I strongly recommend to read the Wikipedia article about this race, but this meme is a good summary of it.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Didn't the original Marathon runner, Pheidippides, die of exhaustion soon after? Maybe the organizers were trying to recreate history as understood in their time.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That was back when Olympians were Olympians, not the finely tuned, pampered sports professionals we see today! /s

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Is amazing that they ever did another marathon in the modern Olympics.

    That said the Olympics are just a rich kids talent show at this point, with the possible exception of the generic outliers that happen to be physically perfect for their sport (Bolt, Phelps, etc).

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Asian Games 2026 in Japan will be the modern example

    https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20260924/p2a/00m/0na/017000c

    "We are sorry for your inconveniences, the competent people are all being trailed for corruption" 🍒

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    They should add this alongside the regular marathon. Call marathon: Chaos mode

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    This sounds like the kind of America that Republicans thought was so great that they want it back.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Seeing how it coincided with the Worlds Fair in St Louis that was a big success in showcasing America as a modern country while the Olympic competition was all white people and the US got 248 of the 280 medals (the US team was 80% of the athletes because travel sucked), yeah, I can see how the pedo party sees it as the good old days.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    Boomers describing their way to school:

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    There's a joke about the rat race in there somewhere

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Jon Bois, an excellent and hilarious video essayist, did a video on this! Really good, and I recommend watching anything and everything Jon Bois makes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4AhABManTw

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I think there is a pretty good episode of the Dollop on it too.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Other keystone sports episodes of The Dollop: Rube Waddel, 1908 New York To Paris Car Race.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm not a doctor, but I don't think that's how stomach lining works. Or else, people working in very dusty environments 40 h/week would constantly get stomach issues.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Or when Rachael Gunn failed to receive a single score on her dance.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Of fucking course it was in St Louis, Missouri.

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  • Unfortunately sounds like something humans would do. We really suck

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I've never wanted something to be true more

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    [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    So Canada, Mexico, and US competed as North America back then?

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