Every time I want to cheer Iran for making outlr government look like the braindead idiots they are I see some shit like this.
We need plucky heroes fighting the Epstein Class and their Zionist puppeteers,, damnit, not the Muslim version of MAGAts.
Every time I want to cheer Iran for making outlr government look like the braindead idiots they are I see some shit like this.
We need plucky heroes fighting the Epstein Class and their Zionist puppeteers,, damnit, not the Muslim version of MAGAts.
She paid a ~642eur fine.
That is an absolutely bonkers alternative to being beaten to death. Like why are those the two options?
She would not have been beaten to death. They split the lashes punishments into as many sessions as needed for the person to survive. So instead of 74 lashes at once (guaranteed death), she'd have to take like 15 lashes 5 times.
Very considerate. I was beginning to think they're cruel.
It's ~1.5 times the average monthly salary in Tehran. Comparable sum in NYC would be ~9-10k USD
The state media would paint her paying the fine as an act of submission to the law and the government, as a "proof" that she is a coward who doesn't stand by her beliefs.
It's an attempt to discredit the rebels, basically like a Russian practice of forcing troublemakers to record an "apology" video under the barrel of a gun (just outside of frame).
Is 74 lashes likely to cause death?
One of the few benefits of living in the country with the most devaluated coin in the world: the price of fines is generally updated more slowly than inflation and the result is that fines become peanuts
Am I missing something? It said 100 million tomans, which I punched into a currency converter and got 10 USD
Remember, the only reason these religions nut jobs are in power is because the UK and US overthrow Iran's secular democracy for a pro west dictator. We killed off every left thinking person while secretly training and funding right wing theological factions as a region destabilizing force.
When you inject religion into your laws, paying fines begins to feel like bribing god. They're undermining themselves here.
iran should really layoff the "blasphemy sharia laws" since they currently have a good PR thing going on because of trump.
When you look at videos of Iran, the headscarf laws are clearly not enforced at all. So I am betting this woman did something different than just not wearing a headscarf like criticizing the government
She was filming the video for her song "A Dream Of Freedom", so yeah, the government was already not a big fan
Bro, that's propaganda from a tyrannical government. Listen to any Iranian that managed to escape! They want all their government leaders dead, though they may not want to say it out of "decency"
Guys am I just down bad or is she actually that beautiful?
you are down bad. also, she is quite beautiful.
I had to conduct some research before deciding.

Results inconclusive, further research required.
Results inconclusive, further research required
Classic westoid behaviour 👌. Perving on Middle Eastern women in a thread about how the evil patriarchy in Iran subjugates women. It's true that westoids will never be happy in life until every woman on earth ends up on pornhub. If you can't google hot pics of ladies in your society then is your society even functional?
Your natural instinct is to perv on the woman and imply you need to see her naked to establish her hotness. And you lack the self awareness to see how your society socialized you into this monkey behaviour where every woman is an attainable piece of ass online. Like an entire society afflicted with Tinder-brain. Objectify, Commodify, rate hotness, see if porn available, move on to the next one.
Persian men are also beautiful.
It's:
What * looks like
OR
How * looks
It's never "how * looks like" (Replace looks with any other relevant word). Always "What like", never "How like".
Gosh, tough choice: pay a few hundred dollars or have basically all of the flesh removed from your back with a whip.
It was closer to a thousand dollars.
Yep, says right here in chapter 23, thou shalt not forsake thy hijab, unless thou hast money.
A fine? Does the religion carve out exceptions in exchange for money, or do they just disregard the religion in exchange for money?
Either way, it might be interesting if she can (SAFELY) keep doing it at every show and the budget can cover the fines as a business expense. Maybe she could help normalize it a bit. (I assume that would be a good thing, but I admit that I'm pretty ignorant on the topic.)
Tbf if you count Zakat, Islam does let you get away with some sin so long as you give money to people in need, tho I don't think old men running the government are exactly "people in need."
You think this money will go to "old men running the government"? It goes into the state's budget like all other revenue. This complaint is like complaining speeding fines will go to old men running the government.
Whether you agree or disagree with these fines, it's indisputable that iran still has a more functional, less corrupt government than say, Egypt or Saudi or Kuwait or Iraq or any number of regional US allies
It will go towards missiles which can be shot at Israel in this case. A good cause.
She could only pay the fine because she had no prior criminal record - it's mentioned in the article.
You're referring to this part, right?
[...] her lack of a prior criminal record made it legally possible to convert the 74 lashes into a cash fine.
Does a criminal record include cash fines in Iran, or does she continue having no criminal record?
Does the religion carve out exceptions in exchange for money.
Fixed it for you.
100 million Tomans is about $73.
RIALS is $73, TOMANS is $730.
As far as I can tell online, 100 million Iranian Rials is about $73. And there are ten toman to a rial. So maybe it's more like $730. But I also found this on a reddit thread in /iran
Officially, 10 Rials is one Toman. But very unofficially, toman can erase as many zeros as you want based on the context. Talking about a bottle of water? 2 toman means 2000 tomans. Talking about something a bit more expensive, like a rug? 20 tomans means 20 000 000 tomans. Talking about something very very expensive like a house? 4 toman means 4 000 000 000 tomans.
Since this is a large number and it's in the news, that probably doesn't apply. It sounds more like street vernacular. But it tells me that I really don't know anything about Iranian money.
Wrong way, 10 Tomans to 1 Rial means 100,000,000 Tomans = 10,000,000 Rials = $7.30
Nevermind, I read the other comment wrong.
Well thank fuck. I still of course maintain my firm opposition to the Iranian government for their continued tyranny against women
I know it's stupid, but I'm relieved for the girl. 74 lashes seems a little much. and of course other people have died over this and other "Islamic law", if she had said "I'm atheist" or "I'm gay" she'd be long dead.
To me, it's so horrible that I can't research Iran et al for long without having to tap out
In other news, Iran is at war with America and its stooges following a failed coup attempt by America and its stooges.
I feel that I'm being manipulated. The headlines about this story used to be "Singer gets punished with 74 lashes for violating some religious law". Now I find out that you can just avoid the lashes by paying a fine. It's like saying "man faces prison for going 10km/h over the speed limit" because if you don't pay a fine, you eventually end up in prison.
And even in this story that reveals that you choose between paying a fine and corporal punishment, I feel manipulated. 100 MILLION troman sounds like a lot, but it turns out it's just 730 bucks.
How incredibly gross and blatant, this consent manufacturing machine. I guess it doesn't need to be subtle, people only remember headlines. Damage done, mission successful. Maybe war on Iran is good actually. We'll get it right this time.
What the fuck what legal system exchanges $10 a lash???
100 MILLION troman sounds like a lot, but it turns out it's just 730 bucks.
Using pure currency conversion, sure.
The average annual income of an urban household was approximately 3.432 billion rials
Sauce. Evidently there's a factor of 10 difference between these two denominations, so you're talking about 1/3 of the average household's income. For Muricans, that's around $27k.
I simultaneously dislike that it's pay-to-play and like that there's less barbarism.
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