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Iranian Singer Pays Fine to Avoid 74 Lashes for Appearing Without Hijab in Music Video (iranwire.com)
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[–] 2 points 1 month ago (10 children)

The case of Iran’s interpretation is imperialistic: a woman was threatened with assault for not wearing something the empire demands. This was authoritarian and hazing.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (8 children)

    imperialism describes a relationship between a country and the rest of the world. the us is imperialist because it subjugates and loots other countries. how it treats its own people on its own territory has nothing to do with whether it is imperialist. iran is not imperialist because it does not subjugate and loot other countries. how it treats its own people on its own territory has nothing to do with whether it is imperialist.

    the us is impirialist because there is a us empire. iran is not imperialist because there is no iranian empire.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (7 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

    i am not going to try to divine your point from two wikipedia articles that support mine. do you have something to say?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    I assume you do, since you keep replying.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (4 children)

    you are incorrectly identifying imperialism as the cause of something. being able to identify something as harmful is good, but if you can't accurately identify what caused it you won't be able to effectively combat it. gendered clothing discrimination happens almost everywhere on earth, but not everywhere is imperialist. i don't see any reason that this specific instance is the result of local imperialism if so many other non-imperialistic examples exist.

    (deleted my previous reply because it was unproductive)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (3 children)

    It's still unproductive. Iran is still an empire.
    It's still rules over people, an it still interprets prophetic sovereignty as divine rule sanctified by a spaghetti monster that salts the earth.
    If you feel they are wrong, take it up with them, as I am a scholar. Not your muharib.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    there was an iranian empire. there is not now an iranian empire. even if the iranian government were aspiring to it, they aren't there. iran rules over people because it is a state.

    Imperialism is the maintaining and extending of power over foreign nations

    what foreign nations? this singer is iranian!

    this singer being fined is bad because that's gendered discrimination. the religion is doing something bad by enforcing this discrimination. you can dislike iran or discrimination or religion or states, whatever, but calling these things imperialist is incorrect. imperialism is bad and gendered discrimination is bad but they are different things. you are using the word wrong and it makes your point unclear. you should fight imperialism done by an imperialist state. you should fight discrimination done by non-imperialist states. you need to know the difference or you'll be fighting shadows.

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