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[–] 91 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This list is invalid because How It's Made is suspiciously absent.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I already knew the new York times were shit

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  • [–] 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)
  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Insane list. Look at the IMDB Top 250 filtered by "after 2000" and you'll notice the obvious omissions:

    • Avatar: The Last Airbender at number 6
    • Attack on Titan at number 16
    • Firefly at number 39
    • Taskmaster at number 43

    These are just a couple examples in different categories. Anime fans immediately noticed that no anime made the list at all, despite 10 being in the IMDB top 100. Western animation fans might have seen that Bojack Horseman made the list, but Avatar didn't (or if the editor filtered for "adult animation", Rick and Morty (#22) didn't). There's really no excuse for these, there is no consistent rule that would exclude any of these shows. NYT readers must live in the dark timeline where fun is outlawed and Taskmaster was cancelled after one series.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't get why would they skip Avatar on this list.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Animation isn't respected in the snobby "film" crowd. These are the same sorts of people that refuse to take Citizen Kane out of the number 1 movie slot. If movies peaked in 1941, what's the point?

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  • [–] 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Community being 97th is heresy

    Edit: And no Bluey at all? That show does absolute magic in just 7 minutes an episode

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    True Detectives (SEASON ONE)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    lol the people behind season 2 must be fuming...

    Also, if they can just, randomly specify seasons of a show, why aren't they excluding the last season of GoT? or the finale of Lost (haven't seen, but come to believe that the finale was considered one of the worst ever)?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago

    This is bullshit. The 21st century isn't even over yet.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I think these are as good as any on this list as well. My faves.

    Black Sails

    Arcane

    Letterkenny

    Norsemen

    Corner Gas

    A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    BoJack is such an amazing series and I never want to watch it again

    That shit hurt me in a way no media ever has

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I watched it a second time and it was a very different experience. On my first watch, the ending surprised me and I thought it was a weird twist. On the second watch, I had to stop watching because it was so obvious. All the signals were there. I'd clearly misinterpreted them the first time.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    I'll quote myself from the other post about this:

    Why the fuck would I care what the NYT thinks about TV shows?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    At least the big bang theory and young Sheldon aren’t on this list

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The best TV show IN ENGLISH... plenty of better TV show in other languages... just saying.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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    One show on the list is actually not in English: The Bureau (original title: Le bureau des légendes)

    Excellent spy and geo political drama/thriller following agents of the French DGSE.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    This is a pretty good list, that I largely agree with. IF it were unordered. Ordered the way it is, it is an abomination.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    Orphan Black not being there should be a crime

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Always Sunny is SEVENTY-EIGHTH?! gtfoutta here.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I'm so far behind on that show, like probably 10+ seasons behind. I got tired of it after a certain point. I feel like I'm not alone.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Oh ya sunny is the utmost sit com. The characters don't change and stay the same, they don't learn and have nothing to say. I think that's why they have so much staying power.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    They have permanently kicked the ass of the sitcom genre. Even their new season is funny as hell. They've been making the show for like 18 years or something and can still come up with good episodes. I kinda hope they just retire it if DeVito is ready to quit though.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Excuse me there's a mistake What We Do In The Shadows should be at the top of list thank you.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    SERIOUSLY.

    What We Do In The Shadows was fucking incredible.

    Arazonia!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)
  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    I’m a ride or die for infinity train but you just can’t compare these two properties, bruv. Shadows doesn’t scratch the surface of the emotional depth of infinity train. And, while I had several lol moments with Infinity Train, it’s nothing in terms of comedy to Shadows.

    Saying one is better than the other is nearing non sequitur territory.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    So, so many poorly placed on the list. Band of Brothers is my personal number 1, but I'd accept it anywhere in the top 5; begrudgingly accept it in the top 10. But 28? GTFO.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago*

    This is certainly a top-quality shitpost. I'll give you my upvote for that.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    It's a mediocre list for sure.

    1. Shogun is too low.
    2. Babylon Berlin is missing.
    3. Lost? Really?
    4. Band of Brothers is too low.
    5. Better Call Saul is too low.
    6. Severance is too low.
    7. Watchmen is too low.
    8. Barry is too low.
    9. Eastbound and Down but no Vice Principals is crazy.
    10. Community is too low.
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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Halt and catch fire! The OA - really?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Halt and Catch Fire is so slept on, it’s not funny. It’s in my personal top 10.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    List compiled by an utter moron. Entirely missing (among others) and vastly superior to most on the list:

    • The Expanse
    • After Life
    • Sex Education
    • Firefly
    • IT Crowd

    Also, despite being controversial, probably worth mentioning:

    • South Park
    • The Walking Dead
    • Z-Nation (imo much better than TWD)
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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    South Park is not eligible as it started airing in 1997.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    scanned the entire list hoping the expanse would pop up.

    of course not.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    What's controversial about The Walking Dead? (I only saw the first season).

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    The torture porn for Season 7 first episode. The show went from splatter / hack & slash to a breach of the psychological contract between film makers and the audience. Instead of cutting away for the ultra violence, they stayed fully on it, turning this franchise from a zombie splatter movie into sadistic torture porn, with the sadism directed at the unsuspecting viewers.

    I was able to skip past one of those sections because it was telegraphed in the previous season's ending, but the next one was intentionally designed to catch the audience unaware and was ultra explicit. I did not want to see this and I never consented to this kind of sadistic fucked up shit to be broadcast onto my screen.

    Fuck the makers of that franchise, fuck AMC and fuck everyone involved in that decision for all eternity.

    Edit: Be grateful that you didn't have to watch that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I felt like it was an overcorrection of the season 6 finale where they left it on that shitty cliffhanger of who died. So they were like “well you want answers, we’ll give ya answers!!!”

    But yeah it was bad.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It's really weird that basically nothing made out of the anglosphere is there. Squid game got squeezed in, but not a single anime for example is really weird. There is stuff like AoT and Death Note and neither is on there.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    It's completely US-centered with a couple of British shows sprinkled on top. Even if your focus was just the anglosphere, UK TV punches way above its weight.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I was discussing this list with my wife yesterday - from the other comments we've watched more than the average person here. I'd say we've seen 4 out of every 5 shows at least one season and probably finished about 20% of them (with minor exceptions like spin offs or movies or new seasons in the last few years with a hiatus).

    What struck me was the inclusion of Suvivor and Ru Paul - I don't doubt their cultural impact and significance, nor their importance towards their fans - but as a mark of quality of what a TV experience can be, considering performances, risk-taking, writing depth, cinematography, music, costuming, editing, props design, imagination and ingenuity - I wouldn't have included those in the Top 100.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I just look at these lists for some recommendations. To truly choose a best when many of these are apples and oranges, different genres, short series, long running, everyone has heard of it, no one has heard of it, high budget, low budget, influential, experimental, animated,hard to write or produce.

    TLDR, The metrics are off so I don’t sweat it

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago*

    I can take it seriously if they have The Americans in the top twenty! Really good showing for British shows in a US-based list. Poor showing for animations that are not Bojack Horseman.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    What is this list based on?

    Where the fuck is Dark?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Dark not in a top 100 is how you know the curator does not actually watch TV

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Dark got kinda bad in the last season imo. Id give it a number between 100-88 at best.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Biased mainstream media REFUSING to acknowledge the cultural significance of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic 😤.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Unironically. I'm sure Parks&Rec was a fun show, but did it fill convention centers around the world with hundreds of thousands fans? Did it kickstart the careers of animators, illustrators and musicians?

    There's a couple more "children's cartoons" that I'd put in the top 100 over some high-popularity-but-low-cultural-impact shows from this list. I think if you look at the current animation industry, all of them will name the same shows that inspired them as children and still influence their work to this day: Avatar: the Last Airbender (2005), Gravity Falls (2012), Adventure Time (2010), etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    IMO it's rather that ‘Adventure Time’ and other cartoons were inspired by Don Hertzfeldt. Afaik Pendleton Ward was in CalArts right when Hertzfeldt's shorts came out. ‘Adventure Time’ ran at pretty much the same time as ‘Regular Show’, and they had similar style and mood — not surprisingly, since Ward befriended J. G. Quintel (and Alex Hirsch) at CalArts. These three worked on ‘The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack’ together before launching their separate series.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    I'm curious how they made the list... It couldn't have been just some intern / writer putting down their top 100? There had to be some sort of stats involved no? Like number of people watching? Number of weekly watchers? Impact on online discussions? I don't see what state it could have been which would have ignored so many other shows.

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