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[–] 32 points 1 month ago*

Change the law to correctly read 'Made in EU'.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Then it shouldn't also apply to Ireland? Just French being... French.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Ireland is part of the EU, even uses euros

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  • [+] -12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Part of the union but not part of "europe" as defined by the baguettes

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    It most certainly is on the continental plate of Europe (which is a little hard to define anyways). It's not the mainland part of the continental plate, but still on the continental plate of Europe.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    But "continents" as we typically use them are just made up anyway. Or can any asain country join the EU since the are on the same plate? India gets lumped in with Asia when it is on its own plate. The boundaries are all made up so if they don't want Britain to be a part of Europe they're free to do it.

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    [–] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    EU ≠ Europe, and its not just the UK but also Norway and Iceland etc. It would be more accurate to name the policy made in the EU.

    Although how this impact NI will be interesting to see...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and other countries are in the European Economic Area, which is a superset of the EU. The UK had the opportunity of staying in the EEA, but that wouldn’t have been a hard enough Brexit to appease the gammon, so it was rejected. Of course, the EU could give the UK special treatment and include them in the programme, but it does not follow that they reasonably should do so, and there are competing political pressures against them making such an exception.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Its not a policy, or historical point: the UK is literally in the continent of Europe, so the term "Made in Europe" is factually incorrect here if it excludes the UK, regardless of what could or should happen with the politics.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    "maybe Brexit was a mistake."

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    They should call it “Made In EU” then. It’s not just us who are European but not in the EU.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It's interesting to note how different countries within the union are taking about who to include and who to exclude.

    It clearly goes beyond the ostentatious justification for this of presenting a united front against Chinese protectionism.

    The French representative talks about limiting it to only the EU27, which wouldn't even include the Nordics, who are almost EU in all but name. France would really like to be a big fish in a smaller pond, it would benefit their industry the most that way.

    Poland’s economic development minister, Michał Baranowski, said it was too early to say whether countries such as Switzerland, the UK, Japan, Australia and Canada would be in or out, adding: “All these countries are in the mix of the discussion.”

    This statement seems to implicitly include the Nordics in the arrangement by not mentioning them. In contrast to France, Poland's industry would benefit more from open trade with more countries outside the EU bloc.

    It shouldn't be a surprise of course that politicians are prioritising their own countries' interests in such discussions - if anything, that's their job.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    the EU27, which wouldn’t even include the Nordics

    Sorry to be pedantic; I'm sure you're thinking of Norway, but the Nordics are: Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway and Iceland, and three out of the five are in the EU :)

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (15 children)

    Yeah, self-inflicted. Sucks for us, but it's how we learn (hopefully)

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    I agree, but technically we are still a European country. We left the union, not the continent.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    While I am irked somewhat when people conflate the EU and Europe, calling a EU-only policy a "Made in Europe" policy would still be technically correct. For example, if I told people I personally only bought products made in Europe, but in fact I only bought products made in Guernsey, my first statement would still be accurate.

    If the EU ever grows to include Canada or Japan however, it would then no longer be possible to make such statements.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Point is that you shouldn't be excluding countries from joining a "made in Europe" certification scheme when they are, in fact, making products in Europe. If you want the scheme specifically to be highlighting and promoting products made in the EU, it should be a "made in the EU" scheme.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Well you could have made in EU but not made in Europe. For example you can buy products made in French Guiana which would be EU but not Europe. Also Cyprus is in Asia according to how some people draw the lines of the continents. Then we have the Spanish part of North Africa and arguably the Canary islands as well.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I dunno, you guys are looking more and more like an American colony than a. European country. How is your healthcare and food going ?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Well I had a delicious curry for tea and it didnt get recalled or give me diahorrea. And I picked up my prescription - 5 items and I didnt pay a penny.

    I don't care what anyone says I'll be European til I die.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    The UK has always been more like the USA than many European countries are. It's unsurprising if you consider the history. Britain has a strong history of liberalism, individualism and capitalism, more so I think than its European neighbours. That spread to/cross-pollinated with those factors in the USA.

    It would be wrong to see Britain as a colony of the USA rather than a country which is influenced by it for good and bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    UK needs to rejoin quick before the war

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    So Canada will be in, because that's what the "associated member" thing is about. But UK will not.

    "Made in EU or associated countries but not in non-EU Europe"

    Hope there's a regulation on the labels size...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Europe isn't a continent, it's a club.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    If they want to exclude the UK, it's fair enough - but it should then be called something which excludes the UK. The UK is in Europe, so products made there are, as a matter of fact, made in Europe.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The UK is in Europe

    Economically they told Europe to fuck off. Actions have consequences. UK never likes to be referred to as Europe.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Just to be clear, do you think "made in Europe" stickers should exclude countries which are, as a matter of fact, in Europe? Do you think that's better than making it a "made in the EU" sticker?

    UK never likes to be referred to as Europe.

    I'm trying to imagine what this could mean in a way that makes it anything other than obviously wrong or obviously dumb and I can't. Is it

    • Citizens of the UK never like the UK to be referred to as Europe? This is obviously wrong. Many people in the UK recognise that the UK is part of Europe and refer to it that way. I believe you will find public statements from political figures from recent years saying as much.
    • The UK itself never likes to be referred to as Europe? This is obviously dumb. The UK itself is either a bit of rock, or an abstract concept, and does not have feelings.
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    [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    It sounds like they specially chose Made In Europe instead of Made In EU so they can choose members outside the EU. Saying UK left the EU is irrelevant if that's the case. It should be measured on other factors, same as they should for other non-EU European countries.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    One parson said this, who happens to be the French industry minister… I’m not sure who pissed on his baguette this morning but it’s simply not going to happen.

    Just remember the Brexit campaign was the result of a massive global misinformation campaign conducted over decades, and not a single leave promise made to the British people has come to fruition (or was ever really possible) the UK will end up rejoining the EU with much fairer terms for all the other member states, without all the carve outs and benefits it had as a founding member.

    I’m just glad we were able to make Europe stronger by demonstrating what a bunch of liars the anti-EU movement is.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Of course not, thats what Brexit was for. They voted for that didnt they

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    What he needs is a tiny little asterisk with a note saying: By Europe we actually only mean EU member states and not any other country geographically located in Europe but outside the EU, like Switzerland.

    You know, for the people that don't understand how geography works.

    😜

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago*

    I agree with this. I would think most people would see made in Europe they would assume made in EU member states. I could be giving most people too much credit though. idk I overthink and complicate things sometimes, I guess it really doesnt matter, why not just say made in germany or whatever because you dont have tags that say made in asia or at least I've never seen one.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    It did return common law to primacy. And our agriculture policy is now much better than the EU's corrupt CAP crap.

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