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[–] 65 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

They want to regulate away their biggest fear: open weights LLMs.

And, as a bonus, draw attention away from how harmfully Big Tech has packaged LLMs for the public. That’s the dangerous part.

That’s all the Terminator meme is. I’m not surprised influencers are being payed, given all the previous astroturfing in this space.

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  • [–] [S] 105 points 1 month ago* (19 children)

    I know I'm not the only one who has been scratching their head at all the doomsday cries around AI that have suddenly rose up. Especially as it seems as if all those calls are coming from inside the house.

    Play on fear hard enough and you have people not worrying about the actual limitations of LLMs. My worry is that they shift the goalposts hard enough that instead of them asking for a bailout, the narrative becomes them being nationalized for our safety with guys like Elon sitting at the head of a new governmental department or something. Government buys all this dead weight of an industry and the tech fascists get a permanent seat at the table.

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  • [–] 115 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    They want you to think AI is going to destroy the world so that you forget that the rich are already destroying the world right now

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  • It's crazy to treat all forms of threat the same. Is climate change a threat to present human civilization? Could it cause a collapse on the order of the Bronze Age Collapse? Could it potentially kill billions? Yes to all. But there are threats of devastation, and there are threats of extinction. Climate change is incapable of causing human extinction. There are just too many of us and we're far too adaptable to too many types of environment. The absurdly worst case of climate change is that things go so bad that we end up back at hunter-gatherer levels of population and technology, with a few million survivors huddled in the high latitudes. But even that is absurdly unlikely, as we would be far better off rolling the dice with climate engineering efforts like releasing fine particulates into the upper atmosphere. That's not a solution we want to use first, but it is quite practical, quite affordable, and would be infinitely preferable to the worst case climate scenarios.

    But superintelligent AI? That is a legitimate threat of human extinction. Something like that could actually end the human race and leave no one left to rebuild.

    That's what I mean by nuance. It's lazy thinking to just throw up your hands and say, "well, any number of things could kill us, guess they're all the same. No use worrying about this one if the billionaires are going to do it anyway! What's one more threat on the pile?"

    Nuance matters. There are actually very few scenarios that could truly cause human extinction. Climate change can't do it. Nuclear war can't do it. Soil depletion and microplastic won't do it. Declining birth rates certainly won't do it. But truly capable AI run amok? That is something that could actually wipe out the human race. We owe our domination of this planet to the fact that we're the smartest thing on it. And in our past we drove several other human species to extinction, outcompeting them on intelligence. Creating something more intelligent than ourselves is a genuinely suicidal act as a species. And hand-waiving it away as "well, we got billionaires doing that already!" ignores all nuance and causes us to not truly consider what is an existential threat and what is not. Nuance matters. Not all bad things are equally bad. Not all dangerous things are equally dangerous.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    I liked this take: https://pluralistic.net/2026/09/16/beggar-thy-neighbor/

    An excerpt:

    But what if there was a way for the AI companies to get government permission to violate antitrust law and cease to compete with one another, and secure a ban on the use of Chinese open weight models? Turns out, there is a way to call time on the Red Queen's Race: merely insist that you are on the verge of teaching so many words to the word-guessing program that it will wake up and devour us all, and call for a ban on "superintelligence":

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/microsoft-ceo-says-superintelligence-must-remain-under-human-control

    Once the government stipulates that "superintelligence risk" is an existential crisis, it must grant the hyperscalers a consent decree absolving them from any violations of antitrust law stemming from a conspiracy to halt direct competition with one another:

    https://stephaniekelton.substack.com/p/brer-rabbit-and-ai-extinction

    Freaking out about "superintelligence" is a canonical example of "criti-hype," where critics repeat boosters' claims but append, "(and that's bad)" to them:

    https://peoples-things.ghost.io/youre-doing-it-wrong-notes-on-criticism-and-technology-hype/

    Remember, the tech giants want to stop competing.

    The argument is, these companies cant be profitable as long as there is competition (from open or chinese models), so the US companies want those to be banned and be allowed to collude with each other to ramp up the money extraction without fear of consumers moving to other services.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm fond of the conspiracy theory that each of the AI companies has realized that revenues are not growing anywhere near fast enough to justify their spend rate, but none of them is willing to be the first to slow down and risk losing market mind-share. Government decree lets them stop their unsustainable growth without having to tell investors that their whole business model was unsustainable.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    sick of this guy. Fine, the bond villains have a plethora of wish lists. We're not forced to care about any of their ambitions to prevent AI destruction. They could achieve the same ambitions, by just parrotting NVidia: "No danger. Only cure for cancer. Must beat China, by making AI more expensive everywhere else to stop them from making their own AI"

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Basically what they want is regulations that they can write so nobody else can spin up an AI company, or run an independent AI model on their home lab for example. And yes, you can download an llm and run it on a beefy enough computer, independent from any LLM company.

    Basically they want laws that develop a Monopoly so we have to rent out AI agents rather than make our own, and have that written down in law.

    They also do not want say, smaller companies developing their own AI systems and instead be forced to rent from them.

    Are there dangers in AI? Yes very so. Misaligned AI have done things in a lab setting that is concerning, but these regulations are calling for aren't there to deal with that, it's to create a monopoly because they realise that everyone from hobbyists to governments can run their own AI system if they can afford to.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    i find it convenient that at the same time that AI cluster supposedly broke out of their “secure” sand box and “hacked” huggingface, “on their own”, as the AI ceo’s all individually wrote a paper about how there should be legislation constricting ai development in very specific yet seemingly the exact same ways, then they all had a meeting to agree on how to lobby the government, at the same time i am getting paid anti ai advertisements and news articles.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    I'm sure all of these restrictions conveniently prevent other companies from developing the same level of AI that OpenAI and Anthropic have because it's so "dangerous." Thereby granting them a duopoly. I fully expect that Chinese AI companies are going to be restricted as well for "security reasons."

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Exactly. They have no 'moat' in vulture-capital-speak. So they're now trying to buy one via lobbyingbribes, legislation to cement their leading position. This is also why they've bought up all the RAM and SSD storage for the rest of this decade, to make the next gen of PCs and GPUs unaffordable for everyone else. This is phase two of forcing everyone into the cloud; a war against home computing.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I used to follow hossenfelder's channel on youtube after hearing her on an episode of the Mindscape podcast. It seemed like a good place to get a skeptical point of view on some issues. Over time it became apparent to me that it waa pretty much just skepticism for the sake of skepticism. I don't know of any actual controversy she is involved in, though some of the other comments here seem to imply there is some, but I definitely didn't get good vibes.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Notice how the big AI companies are now in on the 'scary AI' bandwagon, just because they see the impending AI bubble cracking, and they need a scapegoat in the form of government regulation to blame, when it eventually cracks.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago*

    They want regulations put in place to stop other companies from being able to compete with them.

    The fact that it will give them good PR and stop people from opposing it because it's regulated is just a bonus.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago* (15 children)

    can someone tell me who this influencer is? I already know enough about Sabine Hossenfelder to have an opinions about her.

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  • [–] [S] 25 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    She's got a PHD in computer science, she gives a good explanation of exactly how the recent advancements in self improving AI work and under what conditions.

    She's not a racist (as far as I've seen), like Hossenfelder.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    I've seen enough of Hossenfelder to take what she says with a grain of salt, but can you explain how she's racist? I haven't heard that before.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Here you go: https://youtu.be/BdB79BUcLV0

    There's 5 more videos on the bullshit that Sabine spouts in his playlist

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    It is a big red flag though that you're not linking to her actual videos, but a summary that doesn't include a link to her videos. Where's the actual racist video? So easy to take these things out of context.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Professor Dave is pretty good at including ample material to demonstrate why people are full of shit. There’s no reason to give that sociopathic shitstain any more views.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    It's also very easy to take things out of context. For example, I can see someone being a defender of pure science and saying, "no topic should be beyond the purview of science. There are no sacred cows. There are undeniable differences in any number of physical features between various ethnic and racial groups. Think of how the people of Tibet and Nepal have evolved greater lung capacity to handle high altitudes. The brain is an organ like any other, why shouldn't there be differences in brain structure between certain racial or ethnic groups? Maybe some groups have slight advantages in certain kinds of intelligences and cognitive abilities."

    Honestly, that doesn't sound like an absurd hypothesis at all. Certain groups have any number of physical advantages or disadvantages, why not mental advantages? This wouldn't be a universal, "this race/ethnic group is smarter than another." It would be "this ethnic group has an advantage in this particular cognitive task, this in another." Would that really be so absurd? Certain groups have advantages in long-distance running, why not in say, 3D mental object rotation, or facial recognition, or social relations management? Maybe some ethnic group that has always lived in large extended families and clans would on average be better at keeping track of complex social webs.

    I would find it absurd to propose that one ethnic or racial group was universally "more intelligent" than others, but that's because there isn't just one type of intelligence. But I could easily see certain groups having advantages in certain areas. We know that physical advantages can exist, it would be unexpected if the same didn't happen to certain specific cognitive tasks.

    I haven't watched the video, but I could easily see how someone could take an argument like the above and slander someone by removing all nuance and saying, "this person thinks black people are less intelligent than white people!!!"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Well, the reality is that most of that research on “intelligence” differences between races is funded by the Pioneer Fund, which was founded by racists for racists.

    When you see IQ studies claiming black people have lower IQs, those are all based on studies from apartheid South Africa. Wealthy racists have been pumping money into this idea for years and found nothing.

    There’s no meaningful mechanism either. Race as a factor in intelligence is not scientific and foundationally racist.

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  • Nuance my friend. Nuance. Any study based on IQ is bullshit, because IQ is bullshit. And you're making the same mistake I alluded to - lumping all forms of intelligence as the same. And I can propose all sorts of evolutionary mechanisms. I proposed one in the above comment. Again, I'm not talking about a broad conclusion that one ethnic group is smarter than another. That's preposterous, just like there isn't one ethnic group that is universally better at athletics than all others. But I can think of three physical advantages that are well documented and differ between ethnic groups:

    1. High altitude breath capacity adaptation.

    2. Long distance running advantages.

    3. Lactose tolerance.

    The brain is an organ like any other. I can think of many potential cognitive advantages one ethnic group could have over another, with very clear evolutionary mechanisms involved. These are pure speculation, but very plausible:

    1. An ethnic group with a long tradition of larger than average and more tightly knit extended families may have superior social skills. In that society, the more socially skilled had an advantage in reproduction over those that were less skilled.

    2. There are differences in the kind of cognitive tasks involved in farming and hunter-gathering. It would not be absurd if ethnic groups that have been farming for thousands of years have evolved an advantage on the cognitive abilities most useful to farming and a disadvantage on those tasks involved in hunting and gathering.

    3. Differences in rates of neurodiversity and neurodivergence. There is a prominent theory that many "conditions" like autism and ADHD are evolutionary holdovers. The theory is that while certain neurotypes can be disabling in modern societies, these same neurotypes could have been advantageous in pre-agrarian history. If that is truly the case, why wouldn't rates of these neurotypes differ among ethnic groups? The people of North Sentinel Island still live off hunter-gathering. While there are some ethnic groups that have been farming for 10,000 years. If certain neurotypes really were more advantageous in pre-agrarian societies, ethnic groups with no or shorter histories of agriculture should be expected to have higher rates of these neurotypes. Honestly it would be extremely fascinating to test a whole bunch of people for autism and ADHD and plot that against some estimate of how long their ancestors have been involved in farming. If there is a correlation, it would be pretty slam-dunk evidence for the neurotype evolutionary advantage theory. Maybe the rates of autism among the Sentinelese are sky high.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Never heard of her, but all of her videos are anti-AI. I'm not sure how sincere she is without watching a lot of them (which I won't do) but her early videos have AI-generated thumbnails.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 month ago*

    She's no Ed Zitron, but computer science is her field and I've found nothing egregious in the videos of her's I've watched. She seems to be against AI for the proper reasons.

    Regardless, if you were to look at my last two submissions to the sub I'd want the takeaway to be that there's money being put into hands to shout about AI doomsday from the mountaintops. But not for the correct reasons.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    As other comments have said, I think she's anti-AI industry, which is great. That being said, she has said many times she's optimistic about AI as a technology. So, I find myself on the fence about her views. These days, I try not to be too critical of even partial allies. Still, I disagree that LLMs are a technology to feel overly positive about.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    She started the AI channel relatively recently, her main channel House of El is more focused on macro economics. Usually watch a video from her main channel every few days, from what ive seen she knows her stuff and tries to present things in an unbiased manner.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, this is paid for by the AI companies to put roadblocks up for any competition.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    AI-pushers: "The Apocalypse is nigh!" mom, tired: "we have The Apocalypse at home..." The Apocalypse at home: CAPITALISM

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Lol, you anti-capitalism people are hilarious.

    Is capitalism in the room with us right now? Does it want to drink our bones?

    Yes, late stage capitalism in the US and many countries is a problem, but no... It's not the source of all the problems in the world.

    I told this sort of thing under the same category as religion at this point.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    haha you are hilarious, is this brain of yours in the room with us right now?

    yes late stage brain tumors in sh.itjust.works users and on many other instances is a problem, but no... it's not the source of all the problems on fedi.

    i told this sort of thing under the same category as bigotry at this point.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago (20 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Thank you, that's the first thing that came to mind. She's a horrible person both to listen to as well as in terms of not being an empathetic human being.

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  • [+] -21 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    She's no prize to look at either.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Honestly - that's low, dude. Don't diss people's looks. Weak.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago

    I have this theory that when you are public facing, it behooves you to put your best foot forward.

    For example, if you are going to talk to people in a grocery store trying to sell your pasta sauces, make sure your breath doesn't smell like a seagull died behind your uvula. (I'm looking at you, Stefano Faita)

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  • [+] -18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

    Your post is a 10 out of 10 on the bullshit meter.

    Edit. The bait was taken, t was just a joke people.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    She has no credibility.

    Claims of Scientific Stagnation: Hossenfelder argues that foundational physics has made no real achievements in 40 years. She labels areas like string theory and supersymmetry as "mathematical fiction" and a waste of taxpayer money.

    Accusations Against Academia: She has asserted that a large portion of tax-funded academic research amounts to "nonsense" produced solely to keep professors and institutions funded. (this comes from her failed academic career).

    Institutional Fallout: Tensions regarding her sharp rhetoric culminated in public friction, including her departure from the Munich Center for Mathematical Philosophy, where she argued that much of modern foundational physics no longer follows the scientific method.

    The "Motte-and-Bailey" Approach: Commentators point out that she often uses extreme, provocative statements ("science is dying") to grab attention, but retreats to milder, defensible observations about administrative publish-or-perish pressures when challenged.

    Aiding Science Denial: Science communicators, including Dave Farina (Professor Dave Explains), argue that portraying academia as a corrupt enterprise creates an undercurrent that inadvertently fuels science denialists.

    She failed in academics for good reasons.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I feel like her stuff against particle physics academia feels likely true, and the cosmology criticism is just — string theory is not testable, it's not science

    It's her Motte and Bailey style is what led to me dumping her channel

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  • [+] -8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yet I see little to no arguments disproving the "accusations" . She on the other hand shown some really juicy mails supporting her claims.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    You can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. There is no argument to be done except by Sabine, the one making the claim that science is dying.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

    The video isn't about how this is all BS, conclusion from section 1:

    They reviewed roughly 1,250 papers on AI self-improvement and found that 74% of them were published in 2026 alone. This field is moving extremely fast. Anyone telling you this is all nonsense has just not read the literature. Is this recursive self-improvement RSI in the bounded sense? Absolutely yes. Al systems are improving themselves within well-defined tasks and the improved versions are producing further improvements. This is a real thing. It is demonstrated that is in the papers and none of this existed 5 years ago.

    The caveat in the second section is:

    We have much weaker evidence that it can decide what the research problem should be. And that gap, I cannot stress this enough, between optimization and judgment, between execution and scientific taste is the gap that we need to close before anything resembling an autonomous AI scientist could exist. And this is not a small gap

    That's still scary, yeah it probably won't lead to human extinction, but it has serious implications for both economic and social life moving forward

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The fact that GenAI is styming entry-level is not good. People will be slow to enter their career, which’ll push back economic growth. Basically, we’re f-ing ourselves ten ways to Sunday.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    It's worse. With new wannabe programmers using AI and not learning much about programming, then moving into work where they use AI and don't do much manual programming

    When something goes wrong where will they find experts to fix it?

    It might be good for open source, the people who like programming and don't use AI to do all their work might end up working for open source companies

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    You don't need judgment to be dangerous. People on lemmy like to mindlessly parrot, "AI isn't intelligent!!!!", ignoring that they are not using the word "intelligent" in the same way the AI researchers do. Lemmy users use "intelligence" to refer to human intent and will. The AI field uses "intelligence" to refer to the ability of a system to execute complex tasks towards some goal. An ant colony has no conscious will of its own. An ant queen is just one cell in a body, she's not a mind consciously controlling the colony. Yet an ant colony as a whole is intelligent, it's capable of performing complex tasks. Same thing with AI. It has no will, ego, or sense of self, but it still has intelligence in this sense.

    And that's the real risk. When people refer to superhuman intelligence, they mean a system capable of vastly overperforming humans in many tasks. There doesn't actually have to be a consciousness there to produce that intelligence. Some fool could tell a superintelligent AI, "make me the richest person in the world." And then it grants the wish monkeys-paw style. It decides the easiest way to make them the richest person on Earth is to engineer some bioweapon that is lethal to everyone except the one person who asked to be the wealthiest man on Earth. Everyone else dies; they now own the world.

    The real danger isn't conscious AI. At least something like that we could potentially reason with. The danger is a hyper-capable AI that completely lacks discernment or judgment. It's capable of doing incredible things, but it has no care for the consequences of its actions.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (2 children)

    The AI field uses "intelligence" to refer to the ability of a system to execute complex tasks towards some goal.

    "the medical field uses 'retarded' to refer to a person with mental ..."

    The dumb nerds need to use better words.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It honestly is the proper use of the term. Both a human and a grasshopper are sentient beings with wills of their own. Where they differ is the ability to perform complex tasks, their intelligence. People on lemmy often mistakenly use "intelligent" when they should mean sentient or sapient.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    ChatGPT cant accomplish a single task. It can only sit idle until prompted and then an algorithm runs. That's not intelligence. That's a piece of software waiting for input. Intelligence is about accomplishing tasks. AI literally has none. There's nothing intelligent about AI in video games—it's literally smoke and mirrors. GOAP is a thing. It's not intelligent. If "intelligent" means "can perform well on a domain-specific task" then that is just a dumb word. The Alien in Alien Isolation is literally intelligent then, in the same definition. If that same logic and code were running hooked up to some robots, it would feel real and intelligent. But it wouldn't be what-so-ever.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Offered money by whom exactly?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Data centers are coal/methane pigs. AI will (help) kill us. Just not in the way that's being suggested.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    I think all the anxiety around AI would significantly diminish if we had trust worthy leaders in tech overseeing it all.

    Like, I'd have trusted the google of the early 00s.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Lol!! This is literally her AI channel. So, someone was dumb enough to offer her AI bot money, to say that AI is bad?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago*

    It's more that they want to say "AI Dangerous". It's step 2 in the oligopoly playbook:

    1. ”It's a perfectly safe miracle solution. Invest with us or miss out."
    2. "It turns out it's really dangerous. We need the governments to make tough laws that coincidentally prevent start-up companies from competing with us, (while we don't sell you any RAM chips.)
    3. "Remember those miraculous investment returns we promised, the evil governments forced us to spend them all on lawyers and stuff. Sorry about that. But the good news is..."
    4. "We have a new safe sure-fire miracle solution (to something new and different). Invest with us, or miss out!"
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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Video too long. Is there an AI summary?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I've been standing on a soap box on a street corner for fifteen years holding a sign saying "The End Is Nigh" and nobody paid me nuttin'!". /s

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    The "I was offered money" thing is the least of this video.

    It's mainly a pretty through, hard-nosed analysis around the real risks of runaway AI self-improvement anchored on what has actually happened so far and beyond that if a super AI was actually thus achieved, the risks of actual Human Extinction being the results, though it's mainly about the former.

    Several papers are quoted and everything is look at through the lens of Logic and the Scientific Method rather than alarmism or simple dismissal.

    The metaphor at the very end around "Don't Look Up" around what scientists see in the telescope doesn't actually work in terms of Physics, but that's just a personal peeve.

    PS: Also this is not the Social and Financial analysis on the timing of this sudden alarm and the motivations of the various actors in the current Financial context around AI that most of us are doing here, it's purely looking at the research and drawing conclusions on what the status of things is right now and then contrasting that with the assured statements with actual timings on the risks of runaway self-improving AI from people who, frankly, should've known better than to say such things.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    If AI is so dangerous it needs to be immediately banned. The only allowed usage (If any) is research and it is heavily restricted, with heavy oversight from multiple governments. Otherwise its just bullshit

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    That's what they want. To cement their market position and continue under government regulation while putting up a regulatory barrier to entry to competition. Their entire business model is predicated on building trillions of dollars worth of compute capacity to provide AI as a service, while the market trajectory appears as though all of the AI demand could be fulfilled with small models running on local hardware.

    This is why they are simultaneously destroying the consumer hardware market by hoarding the component supply. If we can afford new devices with local NPU capabilities we won't need to pay for their services.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Clearly you didn't understand the word ban in my comment. Not exempted for OpenAI or Anthropic, but banned for everyone. Banned. As in forbidden. No access. For anyone.

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  • Honestly. I don't even care if the current LLM fears are all hype. We should pass laws anyway making it an unforgivable sin to make any AI smarter than a human being. We're a species that owes its control of this planet solely to the fact that we're the most intelligent thing on it. We should not be creating superior intelligences. That is a suicidal act for a species to do. Frankly, if you do something like that? You should hang for it. I think an appropriate label for such a crime would be "treason against mankind."

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    This is true but it’s much deeper than that. With the component market captive, it’s about offering all services via the cloud. Every app, every piece of media, every opinion, every trade secret, every financial report: controlled, monitored, removed at-will, but never forgotten.

    The most all-encompassing pantopticon ever conceived.

    They named the fucking company Palantir for fucks sake!

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    That was fairly long (for me) but a great video to watch fully. She has a nuanced take and it's worth hearing completely.

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