Design Theory examines how the modern design landscape has shifted toward a sterile, homogeneous aesthetic driven by algorithmic influence rather than genuine human emotion. By analyzing cars, consumer technology, and urban planning, the exploration reveals how this trend impacts our connection to products and the future, challenging the necessity of sacrificing soul for efficiency.

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[–] 34 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Kinda makes me sad.

Not like the lack of fancy car designs, but just colour and personality.

I’ve been told our choices for paint will drive away future home buyers, except I’m looking to live not sell.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Paint it for you - you live there now. You can always re-paint when you're selling.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I’m just annoyed at some family constantly telling me not to invest in making my house better. I love this house, it’s good, but it’s acquired some jank and needs love.

    We’re redoing the kitchen this year and they keep telling us repeatedly that we won’t ever get that investment out, nobody pays for a renovated kitchen.

    Which is annoying because we’re not flipping the house, we have no intention of leaving. I’m not worried about the exit liquidity of my home.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    ....house flippers renovate kitchens. Who is telling you this, and is everything else they say categorically wrong, or just this?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    They’re friends with a realtor and it gives them all sorts of ideas.

    We’re spending more than a flipper would on a surface level kitchen because I use it every day, but we never tell them the amounts because they’re incredibly annoying about money.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    You can always re-paint when you’re selling.

    a proper paint job on a car is $12,000-$20,000.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Hi, I would love to paint your car. Anytime any place. At that rate I can afford to fly anywhere and rent a booth and still come out way ahead.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I said proper paint job, not a Maaco special respray, which still costs $2500-3500.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I have been painting cars since the early 90s. I know what I'm talking about.

    Have I done a 20k paint job? hell yeah! Is that what it costs to do a normal high-quality paint job? Hell no!

    I can prep, mask, and spray a car (without body work), in two days. I can rent a booth in most metro areas for ~200/day.

    The sprayables will run me between 400 (commercial white and clear) to ~1200 (metallic red and clear) including catalysts and filters. Maybe add another 40 bucks for a can of thinners if the shop won't provide a gun cleaner (they almost always do)

    Disposables like sandpaper, wall filters, and finishing compound will add another 50-100 if I have to buy the whole pack myself, but usally a rental booth will provide wall filters at no extra charge, and a couple of fine sanding discs for a few bucks a piece.

    So let's assume it is a candy red CUV and we have to buy everything we touch.we are looking at up-front costs of 400+1200+40+100. ~1740

    I am on the Eastern side of Canada, so let's assume a return flight to San jose at about 1200 and add that.

    We are now at almost 3000 bucks. If you will let me have dinner at your place both nights and I only have to deal with a burger and some morning coffees myself... I can charge you 5k and still be home smiling with 2000 bucks profit after a working vacation to somewhere nice and warm and doing something I enjoy doing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    What, there is no way a paint job costs that much unless you are doing something really fancy.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    One data point: I got told the same thing. Just sold my house with bright bold paint to a neighborhood guy who “always loved that house.”

    I feel like going for bland looks is like all the specialized TV channels turning to generic mainstream content — your potential audience is bigger when you leave a market niche but you also lose all the people who wanted that niche

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I hate how all the houses by me that are original and have charm get bought by flippers who do heinous things like paint multicolored brick with latex gray paint and the siding black. There was one house that I literally considered buying, a house flipper came in, repainted everything to look like shit, added the ugliest fence I have ever seen, and sold it. Tragedy. Don’t even get me started on the mistakes they made to the inside.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I’m so confused by this statement. Wall paint is the most readily changeable element in a house! And: we just bought a house with an absolutely hideous combo of dark greys and pink-beige. It absolutely didn’t influence my decision. It was by far the smallest of renovations we wanted to do. While shopping for houses, it never factored in either. And we are planning to paint it up in the colors we like, future buyers be damned.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago

    image
    This is the first image that came up when I searched '1970 parking lot,'

    About a hundred times as colorful as any modern lot.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    YouTube really wants me to watch this video but I find it too ironic that it has a thumbnail with Ferrari EV that the internet hated but ended up selling above expectations.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Watch the video, and you see he argues that being a commercial success does not mean it is cool. Quite the opposite: it means that the companies are only creating products that are "safe" and follow a formula that has been proven to work.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    I wouldn’t go that far even if I believe that large companies are usually data driven to a fault. My guess is that Ferrari as a business cares only about taste of people who can afford their products. These people are disconnected from reality enough not to care about what Reddit thinks of their sports car.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (7 children)

    My guess is that Ferrari as a business cares only about taste of people who can afford their products.

    The people who can afford and actually buying the Luce are not doing because the car is sexy or a unquestionable example of "cool". They are buying it to signal status. They don't care about "taste".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    Status symbols not having a common appeal is something upper class uses to distinguish themselves. Eventually those tastes trickle down to those who want to LARP being rich and then to the rest of society.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    Status symbols not having a common appeal

    You really should watch the video instead of arguing past the point. The main thing about the car is not that is lacks a "common appeal", but exactly the opposite. It takes no risks, it ends up lacking any distinguishing feature and becomes a regular consumer product. "Common appeal" is all it has.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    My point is that I’m not really convinced about the premise when the thumbnail fits internet outrage more than actual sales. Ferrari does things primarily to sell cars, because it’s a company, a for-profit organisation. According to data they seem to be doing fine in that regard. Why would they care about opinions of people who won’t buy their cars? Why should anyone care if the answer is seemingly an uninspired “stop liking things I don’t like”?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Ferrari does things primarily to sell cars, because it’s a company, a for-profit organisation.

    Toyota sells more cars than Ferrari. Do you think that if Ferrari should starts building more cars like Toyota it will be good for them long-term?

    Are you familiar with the doorman fallacy?

    According to data they seem to be doing fine

    So is McDonald's.

    The argument is not that things stopped being popular. It's that they are becoming uniformly similar in a bland way.

    Why should anyone care if the answer is seemingly an uninspired “stop liking things I don’t like”?

    If you actually watch the video, perhaps you can understand why. But it seems you are more interested in sticking to your preconceived notions than listening to someone with opinions of their own.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Ferrari is a boutique car maker. You’re comparing a grocery store box of eggs to a Faberge egg. Volumes are way lower and profit margins are way higher on those Faberge eggs. Focusing on a high-end market segment is a viable business strategy.

    No, I’m not watching 100th video on why that new Ferrari is ugly according to internet outrage farms.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I’m not watching 100th video on why that new Ferrari is ugly

    The video is not about that. You are literally prejudging a video because of the thumbnail. It's your loss.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    It seems to be biased and wrong from the get go so why would I watch something that seems to be designed to feed off internet outrage? There’s so much of that on the internet that it’s hard not to trip over it these days. I’m not interested in a video essay on society, design and technology that’s the same outrage, just repackaged.

    Does the video mention that this EV sold above expectations?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Hot take. I don’t need my stuff to look cool. But to be good and functional.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Be careful what you wish for.

    By valuing only efficiency and utility, you end up creating a world where everything follows the same bland cookie-cutter style, where every city looks the same and where corporations can easily shape and control our needs and wants.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Genuine human emotion - has be exploited and abused by capitalism and now for so many people taste or preference has been replaced by some kind of determination.

    I used to work in a high rise next to a Toyota repair center, the % of white and medium in the car park, was crazy but given the the toyota user base of practical reliability it makes sense (despite it being a repair center). I always wanted to work next to a different brand. I know this is anecdotal but Try looking for a second hand sofa and count how many are grey.

    IMO capitalism and marketing has bred so much uniformity people are almost scared to have their own style or step out of line, buying a purple car is seen as maverick. On the other hand they watch capitalist influencers peacocking as extreme individualists who make an effort to seem unique, seem being the operative word here, as that's what it is an operation. It is a bizarre balance that people seem mesmorised by.

    Clean design is beautiful when we want to find out where we are going at a train station or an airport. Not so much for us that want joy in our homes and lifestyle.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Toyota has a colour that’s reminiscent of baby poop after certain diets.

    At least it’s a color. I can’t fault anyone for wanting something more interesting than primer grey, black, white, red, grey-blue.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I think much of the problem with design goes back to wealth disparity. Not enough consumers have the disposable income to make real choices in what they buy and instead have to go with cost as the largest or only factor. Sometimes you see articles on how efficient america is but its a dollar cost efficiency. Style and quality are not allowed to flourish.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    In the 60s-90s, Italy had a dozen design houses working for manufacturing worldwide. ItalDesign designed a huge number of practical cars that stood the test of time. Car shows had exciting prototypes.

    In the 90s, car design got enshittified by the California design school. Manufacturers cheaped out and bought grads who all designed cars exactly the same way, instead of using Italy. The Italian design houses all died out. Ferrari went from Pininfarina to an Apple designer to pinch out the Luce turd. So now everything is a bloated SUV in red, black, white, or grey. And we have the recurring problem of white paint peeling off cars left in the sun because of the amount of titanium oxide used in white paints. Japanese cars are all designed by committees now, and boring to look it. They are just utility designs, like a toilet.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Not the point. He also talks about how all coffee shops ends up looking the same, how house decor all adopt the same bland style, etc

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Speaking g of house decor and same bland style… I was in a Crate & Barrel this past weekend and apparently the current trend is…. Colorless. Everything was shades of cream with maybe some light woods. It didn’t look too bad, but there was no soul or emotion to it. Like you said, it’s just sterile.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    What I’m hearing is Crumbl cookies

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Hot take, I think my newish purple Avalon looks hot AF! The hood has subtle curves, and the sides have lines that are subtle but beautiful. The back is ugly af, but I don't look at it often.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Really cool video. One reason I don't think was explicitly mentioned but didn't really need to be is the capitalist society we're in now where everything must make more and more money so companies are rewarded for building things that all are safe and look the same to an extent, hence why the Luce sold so many units. No more are we getting stories about companies making something exciting and new to save their brand or make a statement it's just whatever will sell and it works for that purpose.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Capitalism : it's not a bug, it's a feature.

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